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He won't get any luck but again I presume if we beat Longford,  I am back to being an idiot.  So will see you down at O Moore Park in front of 1000 people 600 of them from Longford for a Longford win.  Creedon is clueless and I will tell you something Laois will find it hard to get more than 12 points   ( my heads for chopping block) with these predictions lump on Longford at 13/8.

Corrected, that's it ? a spelling mistake surely the  status quo brigade are not going to leave it at that.

Tony I think your been quite unfair, You have had your say LaoisAbu is entitled to his opinion.  At this juncture in time you are wrong, you may turn out another time to be right.   Sometimes we get an opinion of someone or an idea that we can't let go of.  For you I think Peter Creedon is it, your digging a deeper hole the more you defend him the more tragic it looks.  Winning and losing are small margins and Creedon can't buy one it's not going to work out for him that's life.  If his any good he will resurface somewhere else but  his time in Laois will be short Oct - June unless some clown wants to stand by their man.  Unfortunately whats going to happen is they will sack Creedon end of June and replace him somewhere around Oct with some other journeyman who will be equally useless.  I have a bad feeling Jack Sheedy's name will come up.

If you remember Tony it was the nature of the appointment, back then I said we should be appointing internal candidates to reignite the passion in Laois Football.  I suppose you are clutching at straws.   To be honest I like the banter with you all but I do wonder why your stuck on Creedon?

Secondly why appointing young fellas with a bit of passion within the county is such a bad thing I know they are high risk but honestly where is the downside.  if we are successful I could get your view but where we are at this moment I don't. 

Who from Ballyroan get on it bar McMahon or Tynan at a push?

Now I have an agenda?, I don't care who get Laois Job as long as if your a young man from Laois with a bit of ambition that you are given a more that fair shake.  Which if you knew anything about the appointments is far from what is happening.  Tell me who appointed Creedon,  & TOF and on what  basis and targets,  then tell me I am wrong.

Talent is there,  peanuts been spent on bringing them on.  I easily think we could be comfortable in Div 2 with what's available.  Tony spent the last 6 months telling me I was a fool and a clown at various points.  Now he resorted to the talent is not there well I am telling you we could operate easily in Div 2 with what's available.  We do need a over arching development manager to see what we are doing and where we are going so that we are developing players to fit our needs.  But first our senior team needs to get results.  If all you can aspire to is been sh..t then that's what you will be.

I said this in September rings a little more true today, Tony called me an idiot then also.
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on September 27, 2016, 09:00:19 AM
How can saying this appointment is a waste of time be stupid, at worst it's a different opinion.  Peter Creedon is  a low profile appointment who will at best keep us in Division 3 at worst relegate us to Division 4.   The County Board by going this way is continually showing short-term behavior when have they stopped and asked what is going wrong with Laois Football ? They have continually kept their heads down and avoided criticism they are volunteers and maybe that is not in their remit.  But under their stewardship Laois Football is now at it's lowest point in over 30 years.  So if you think Peter Creedon is going to sort all this by being a good manager well good for him.  I just think Laois Football is in bigger trouble than just needing a new manager.  I think at this stage we are very much like Offaly which is quite amazing considering where we were over 4 years ago.  It wont be too long before people on here are dancing

At this stage I would go for a complete miracle shot, in an ideal world Clancy and McNulty but they are not coming out of their club jobs.   If money was not an object Jim McGuinness if we go outside we need to think big.   If cheap and doable, I like Higgins but I would think a bit of experience longside like Jason Ryan would not be an issue.  But if gun to my head Clancy and McNulty.   I really think Clancy has something special and we would be stupid not to give him the job at some point.
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That's what I said if money was no object, it is a problem I am well aware of it. 

Creedon should get the chop now , he won't but I think the selection policy should really look at inside the county and the coaches that are getting results.

Peter Creedon term as Laois Manager is a unmitigated disaster, we will all hear at the convention that football side of things is coming along nicely.   At the moment this county is as low as it has been in 30 years.  This is costing money and interest and yet I am the fool,   I really am sick of people on here saying Clancy, McNulty and Higgins would be dreadful how do you f...king know if you don't try them.  They could not do any worse than the last 3 managers who were complete jokes.  If this keeps up we will be like Carlow before long.  There is nothing wrong with the talent level in Laois.  The ones who jumped down my throat for saying Jim McGuinness would be my dream manager,  how else can we get Laois's equivalent of Jim McGuinness if we don't go with young passionate Laois Men as County Managers because I am 100% sure the muppets we are hiring would not be fit to lace any of their boots.  All that a county that Laois can attract from outside the county with the resources we have are clowns we have a better chance of getting someone with abit about them from inside the county and because of their passion for Laois Football would take the job. 

Kearns thought he was cat, surprising me with Tipperary.

Lets be fair here no one gets shafted when they are getting paid for the job.  Micko walked out of Laois with a €250,000 all in so in fairness nice gig if you get it. He did a good job but it prob ran it's course.  If you remember correctly back then it was driven from within the county board and players who wanted Micko gone and in fairness McNulty came in and did a good job.  Everyone hated his style but that was life.  TOF & Creedon are losing managers who are getting paid for this so we are not shafting anyone these guys are not volunteers doing it for Laois Football they are paid, in my view are not doing the job that they were paid to do.  Maybe the crop of players is not as good as previous(not my belief) but we are failing in Div 3 not Div 1 or Div 2.   Lillis was dreadful but he was not paid so I judge him by a lesser standard.  This is not a Sunday soccer manager who shows a bit of enthusiasm, organisation & willingness stays in the job.  This is a paid gig and your remit is results you may not agree with me but their will be no uplift this season.  Creedon will be sacked at the end of it(should have been sooner won't be because County Board are essentially treating Creedon like his a volunteer).   What I am saying is give it to young club coaches within the County(it's a gamble but could it be any worse than what's going on).  Because things are so bad we can take a risks and we may uncover a coach within our own county who if we had to pay from similar coach from outside could cost €50,000 plus.  I think somewhere among our Club Coaches  their is someone far better than what we have been paying for outside the county.   If we want someone to develop players then hire someone for that role it's not the job of county senior manager.

So you want to compare
Micko, McNulty and Cribbin they won more matches than they lost
against
TOF Lillis and Creedon
lets be fair here

Personally was very fond of Tom Cribbin he was all heart.

Totally agree No.5,  why are people accepting this.  Everybody is saying what can't be done our players are of Div 2 standard they always were.  Peter Creedon is a bluffer and has as far as I can see not an iota of a clue what his doing.  Mick Lillis was the same last year and TOF was a complete joke with a jokers C.V. We are now 5 years into this absolute disaster and people want to give it time I am sick of giving it time.  I am sick of what is the norm when Creedon gets relegated he should be sacked as he has failed spectacularly in what he was paid to do.

I have not gotten his selections once this season.

I did say McGuinness if money was not an issue, I reckon Creedon's continued appointement will cost prob €100000 in just fan apathy the rest of this year.  I reckon we will have less than 1000 at remaining matches where if things going well we would have  2500 plus at matches.

But he wasn't the manager.  Seriously that's like saying Jose Mourino is responsible for Chelsea this season and I am delusional.

BallyroanAbbey I said in an ideal world give it to Clancy or McNulty as you could not possibly do any worse than whats been going on for the last 5 years. "if" is a big word and in fairness it never matters.  If  Creedon wins on Sunday I am sure they will all be on here telling me his turned a corner and what a clown I am.  But happily I am ok with being a clown.  I think an appointment like Clancy or McNulty is progressive it's outside the norm of what Laois do and ITS A GAMBLE there is loads of upside and very little downside.   We can't get much worse,  I am looking more right about Creedon each week it's not fair or right that we should get rid of at end of the League but idiotic managers like him are costing Laois Football in spades.  I said it TOF, Lillis and now Creedon we don't have the time or money to continue this, fans are voting with their feet their is no buzz in Laois Football does anyone honestly think this is good for Laois Football.   It's not the done thing to sack a manager early but is leaving this farce to continue any better.

He won't ever have a full squad by the summer things will be so bad we will have 4-5 in America.