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Going to be a cracking final round of the hurling Group B

Best to keep the donegal officials at home. Out of their depth

What happened?

Full back wrestles with full forward half a dozen times. Both players get booked.

Ref didn't know what to do so had to ask eamon hasson.

Going to be a cracking final round of the hurling Group B

Best to keep the donegal officials at home. Out of their depth

Not sure how this all fits but north Derry vocational schools players seems to be ignored largely, this may have changed recently. But I remember St Mary's Limavady playing and wining county championships every year under Micky Moran and those lads never got a look in for development squads, never mind minor squads. Whereas counterparts from the big clubs got the call up, I see the reasoning on both side. If they did make the cut it was generally as men to go in an break ball etc. North Derry players I suspect have a higher drop out rate, plenty of things at play here but ultimately playing Junior or bottom intermediate football is quite the commitment at times and you're never going to put on a county jersey.

There should be acceptance that the Derry Senior set up is basically 100% South Derry, its the elephant in the room.

The implementation of Kerry style model e.g. David Clifford aka East Kerry for North Derry could be something to consider. It may sound ridiculous but they basically need an All-Star North Derry entered into the Senior championship, how would they do, hard to know? But it may give confidence to North Derry, additional support into the club game, something for players to aspire to and show there skills against the best. Or they just continue to ignore the Elephant.

Problem with this, is if the best 15 north Derry players where put in a team (from what I've saw) it would have a few dungiven players, a few steelstown players and mostly alot of Coleraine players. These teams are all already playing senior football so would be ineligible

You haven't saw a whole pile if you think claudy, drumsurn, faughanvale, drum, foreglen woudn't have players on a north derry select.

I remember about 30 years ago playing against bellaghy in a game we needed to win to stay up, but totally irrelevant to them. They destroyed us. Don't question the integrity of the Wolfe tones. Ever.

Would they have been 1-7 to 0-0 down if league title was on the line? Think we all know the answer.

It was 0-7 to 0-0 at half time, but that's irrelevant.

Bellaghy won the right to do what they want, same way as Galway cost us promotion last year.

I'd also take us to beat bellaghy in the championship.

And if you were as clued in as you let on, you'll know swatragh scored a goal shortly after half time to go 10 up.

So is it don't question integrity or bellaghy won the right? Can't be both.

Blame isn't fully with bellaghy here, county board and fixtures commitment leave a lot to be desired.

I remember about 30 years ago playing against bellaghy in a game we needed to win to stay up, but totally irrelevant to them. They destroyed us. Don't question the integrity of the Wolfe tones. Ever.

Would they have been 1-7 to 0-0 down if league title was on the line? Think we all know the answer.

Bellaghy, league winners, 10 down and scoreless with about 40 minutes played against a team in a relegation battle. Laughable carry on.

Sporting integrity completely out the window. Middle finger to their neighbours up the road who will most likely beat screen anyway.

Farce from barker and county board.

That goal being disallowed was a shocking call

Goal for each disallowed that should have stood, Monaghans in particular.

Did monaghan player not collect the ball inside the D? Thought wasn't allowed.

That goal being disallowed was a shocking call

Brutal finish. Derry coaches must not watch MacRory games. Bit of deja vu about that.

Is it true that the dual players in clubs will have something like 35/40 games between league and championship this year in the space of 3/4 months? Surely that's too much for amatuer players no?

Well there are 13 league games in the football & guaranteed 6 championship group stage games (potential for 3 more- QF/SF & Final) so there's potential for 22 football games. Wouldn't be sure of the furling formats at all.

Hurling has an early season league, an actual league and then group stages for championship which then decides if you're senior, intermediate or junior. Roughly 16/17 games before knockout in championship I think.
Seems it will be Sunday, Wednesday Sunday for the dual players basically every week

sounds brilliant, much better than training.

How on earth did that Holy Trinity team even make the final? Was the standard that bad among all the other teams they played?

Well Maghera coaching is awful and has been this long time so that's probably the reason they won the quarter final.

Having watched the quarter final, I don't think that's true. Maghera were very unlucky not to win it. Young lads are unpredictable.

Walter is 100%. Maghera had too many passengers and players who werent comfortable on the ball compared to that omagh team today especially in defence.

They've a manager who doesn't attend club games so can't have a clue whats going on and spent most of the QF shouting and arguing with opposition mgmt.

Limited subs made yet there were lads cramping all over the place.

Maghera's raw talent, especially those glen and slaughtneil lads who have came through, got them over the line.

unlucky to st marys, if they had a few of those tyrone u20s who stayed on at holy trinity to win a macrory they might have won it in normal time.

What clubs have professional coaches at underage level? That's mental

I think he means development officers in clubs who look over all aspects of all underage teams + possibly help with schools too.

I know of one close to me and it was an advertised paid position with over 30 hours a week.

19 year olds shouldn't be playing macrory. End of.

Tough one to take for maghera tonight. McEldowney will slot nicely into that slaughtneil side, wise beyond his years on the ball.

Refereeing seems to be getting worse. Some of the tackles ignored tonight and tackles round the neck not punished with a yellow.

Certain black card for late off the ball tackle on McGuckian not given.