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[Anyone else think this was way out of order on the Sindo's part?]

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/paul-kimmage-low-lie-the-fields-of-athenry-the-gaa-story-every-parent-will-want-to-read-36879150.html

Anyone else think this was way out of order on the Sindo's part?

The club handled the situation terribly and it's unacceptable to use that language when coaching u-12s, but tarnishing the name of two volunteers and sensationalising this matter with a journalist who doesn't seem to like or care about the GAA, was wrong of the Sindo imo.

I don't think O' Rourke, Brolly or Dermot Crowe would have touched this. Be interested to hear Brolly's take on it.

No.

A frequently used definition of news is that it is something that somebody, somewhere doesn't want people to know.

Two mentors broke GAA rules. That in itself is not the real story. While what the mentors did was against the rules, what they did were not, shall we say, hanging offences.

Had the mentors and the club held their hands up, admitted their mistakes and taken their medicine, as it were, this would not have become a story.

The problem, and what makes the story newsworthy, is the institutional closing of ranks by the club.

This involved:
i) Refusing to properly deal with the matter internally.
ii) A clear attempt to intimidate the complainants and the panel conducting the disciplinary hearing.
iii) A refusal to accept the outcome of the disciplinary hearing and attempt to spin an untrue version of such to the public.

There is something endemic within Irish institutions across all areas of society that leads to lack of accountability, denials and covering up. Institutional closing of ranks.

And it always, always, always makes things worse for the institution in question.

The club handled it disastrously. No argument there.

Often those who complain most about volunteer coaches give precisely zero of their own time and expect the team to revolve around their child. I don't know if that's the case here but in the vast majority of these cases the complaining parent is a selfish pain in the hole and the coach is trying their best. Anyone who coaches underage teams these days would say that the parents are more challenging than the kids.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/paul-kimmage-low-lie-the-fields-of-athenry-the-gaa-story-every-parent-will-want-to-read-36879150.html

Anyone else think this was way out of order on the Sindo's part?

The club handled the situation terribly and it's unacceptable to use that language when coaching u-12s, but tarnishing the name of two volunteers and sensationalising this matter with a journalist who doesn't seem to like or care about the GAA, was wrong of the Sindo imo.

I don't think O' Rourke, Brolly or Dermot Crowe would have touched this. Be interested to hear Brolly's take on it.

Will there be extra-time?

Ramadan could be a major factor on Mo in the final.  Sunrise in Kiev on the 26th is at 5am so he'll have been up and eaten by then.  He'll then fast until roughly 9pm (no food or water).   Game kicks off at 9.45 local time, so he'll have about 45 minutes to get hydrated before the game.
I read somewhere that he struggled back in his Chelsea days during pre-season that fall in Ramadan.
Hopefully he has gotten more used to it now, but it's still a worry.

It seems that Salah has gotten an exemption from fasting from the Grand Mufti of Egypt. Mane and Can are also Muslims.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/26/grand-mufti-egypt-grants-mo-salah-teammates-permission-postpone-fasting-world-cup-looms

You read article?

Oops. Had just read the first  couple of paragraphs and thought "that's grand so". I'd be amazed if he doesn't get an exemption for the day at least though.

Ramadan could be a major factor on Mo in the final.  Sunrise in Kiev on the 26th is at 5am so he'll have been up and eaten by then.  He'll then fast until roughly 9pm (no food or water).   Game kicks off at 9.45 local time, so he'll have about 45 minutes to get hydrated before the game.
I read somewhere that he struggled back in his Chelsea days during pre-season that fell in Ramadan.
Hopefully he has gotten more used to it now, but it's still a worry.

It seems that Salah has gotten an exemption from fasting from the Grand Mufti of Egypt. Mane and Can are also Muslims.

https://www.si.com/soccer/2018/04/26/grand-mufti-egypt-grants-mo-salah-teammates-permission-postpone-fasting-world-cup-looms

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2018/05/02/sale-sharks-deny-interest-signing-paddy-jackson-stuart-olding/

It would appear Olding and Jackson are toxic and no team wants to touch them let alone sign them.

It would appear that any team that want to touch them are getting harassed and vilified. I don't know what the end game of these campaign groups is. I doubt they know themselves, just delighted with the temporary power and illusion of influence

As someone pointed out, Bill Clinton, who has had numerous accusations of sexual assault, sexual harassment and one of rape made against him, received the Freedom of the City of Belfast a few days before Olding and Jackson got the sack from Ulster.

It's playing out predictably. Any thoughts of improving the system through protest will be long forgotten(if they ever existed)  by these eejits. The hounding of 2 men who've already lost nearly everything will continue.

Anyone else a bit annoyed they lost the game?

I am. I thought the second half was dire. Amateur hour.

Consider this. You win the first leg 5-2, you score 2 more away goals and you still end up hanging on. I'm wrecked!

Think the players are absolutely fcuked so they should be fresh enough by the final

Chelsea game on Sunday is another massive game though.

Would there be anything to be said for putting out the reserves in that one and targeting a win in the Brighton game to secure top 4, given how thin the squad is now and how disastrous any injury could be?

We just need a draw against Chelsea and if we don't get that the team have a week to recover for the Brighton game.

No need to rest players against Chelsea.

Yeah a bit of breathing space now with no midweek games

That Liverpool bench tonight though..... Ings,  Solanke etc.

Anyone else a bit annoyed they lost the game?

I am. I thought the second half was dire. Amateur hour.

Consider this. You win the first leg 5-2, you score 2 more away goals and you still end up hanging on. I'm wrecked!

Think the players are absolutely fcuked so they should be fresh enough by the final

Chelsea game on Sunday is another massive game though.

Would there be anything to be said for putting out the reserves in that one and targeting a win in the Brighton game to secure top 4, given how thin the squad is now and how disastrous any injury could be?

Ronnie Whelan is hard to listen to as well.

Sweet jesus, caught the last 20mins, he is a dose.. 'don't know where this Liverpool team goes from here?'... Err, the champions league final Ronnie!

Fair bucks to Klopp and the players, some going.

Ronnie is trending on twitter.

Good article here for people who can't grasp that this is about biology rather than equality or political correctness.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/30/sports/track-gender-rules.html#click=https://t.co/CivbxIAp63

Excellent article. Explains it really well.

[Lewanaski is overrated]

Lewanaski is overrated. Cant wait for Pool/Madrid final

+1. Thought he went into hiding tonight.

Those highlight packages you can watch on YouTube that show all the baskets from open play one after the other, are a thing of beauty and if you have the game recorded you can switch to that for the last few minutes in a tight finish.

The Warriors were stunning without Curry last night and it sounds like he's nearly ready to go when they really need him.

I've no interest in the abortion debate Sid. I won't be voting and abortion had nothing to do with the reason I found that line of yours annoying.

Lack of comprehension is the reason.

"There is no situation in which I, as a man, cannot access treatment to protect my health if I need to."

It's a blinkered middle-class pontification and your condescension about my comprehension goes well with it.

I've no interest in the abortion debate Sid. I won't be voting and abortion had nothing to do with the reason I found that line of yours annoying.

How does quoting you amount to twisting your words? You wrote the bit in bold, not me. Half the country "cannot access" the medical treatment they need when they need it, something your pontifications didn't allow for.

You're twisting your own words with that question about where the law denies people treatment.