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I find it most odd that someone who wants to force everyone to learn, speak and read a secondary language, and exclude anyone who does not follow his narrow doctrine, can describe anyone else as a bigot.

True. I feel the same about people who demand that children must learn music, art, drama, geography, technology, home economics.....and anything else I have no interest in.

Your point would have more substance if any of these subjects was not already being taught, but was then made mandatory in every school.

It would have more substance again if there was no value in learning any of those subjects.

At some point all these subjects were not being taught but were then made mandatory, some not too long ago.

There is merit in learning a second language.

We couldn't force our own language on ourselves...what is the point in forcing it on someone else ?

if you want to spread the Irish language stop making people feel they are not Irish if they don't speak it.

I don't give a ballix if people don't want to learn Irish but don't give me this "forced into it" ballix when kids are currently going into compulsory subjects in which they have no interest in learning.

Some subjects should be compulsory for kids because they are necessary due to the practicalities of life e.g. Math, English. It is a great sin when people saddle their kids with their own petty, ultra-nationallist outlook on life. Places like the Ukraine are fucked up because of this limited , parochial mentality.

You've named 2 'important' compulsory subjects. That's great.

why don't you tell us more about Steinbeck champ.....we'd all love to hear more....

I find it most odd that someone who wants to force everyone to learn, speak and read a secondary language, and exclude anyone who does not follow his narrow doctrine, can describe anyone else as a bigot.

True. I feel the same about people who demand that children must learn music, art, drama, geography, technology, home economics.....and anything else I have no interest in.

Your point would have more substance if any of these subjects was not already being taught, but was then made mandatory in every school.

It would have more substance again if there was no value in learning any of those subjects.

At some point all these subjects were not being taught but were then made mandatory, some not too long ago.

There is merit in learning a second language.

We couldn't force our own language on ourselves...what is the point in forcing it on someone else ?

if you want to spread the Irish language stop making people feel they are not Irish if they don't speak it.

I don't give a ballix if people don't want to learn Irish but don't give me this "forced into it" ballix when kids are currently going into compulsory subjects in which they have no interest in learning.

Some subjects should be compulsory for kids because they are necessary due to the practicalities of life e.g. Math, English. It is a great sin when people saddle their kids with their own petty, ultra-nationalist outlook on life. Places like the Ukraine are fucked up because of this limited , parochial mentality.

I find it most odd that someone who wants to force everyone to learn, speak and read a secondary language, and exclude anyone who does not follow his narrow doctrine, can describe anyone else as a bigot.

True. I feel the same about people who demand that children must learn music, art, drama, geography, technology, home economics.....and anything else I have no interest in.

Your point would have more substance if any of these subjects was not already being taught, but was then made mandatory in every school.

It would have more substance again if there was no value in learning any of those subjects.

At some point all these subjects were not being taught but were then made mandatory, some not too long ago.

There is merit in learning a second language.

We couldn't force our own language on ourselves...what is the point in forcing it on someone else ?

if you want to spread the Irish language stop making people feel they are not Irish if they don't speak it.

It should have been like this from the start in the 1920s.

Would you make the teaching of Irish a mandatory part of the curriculum in a United Ireland ?

Yes, of course.

kind of like a revenge penal law ?

I'm not sure how the penal laws were relevant, they aimed to prevent education not enhance it.

But in a society where 2 languages are spoken, leaders of state and public service must speak both. If parts of NI were allowed opt of Irish then they would never reach these positions of leadership, ensuring that unionists would be second class citizens, as if they did not have enough of a chip on their shoulder.

They are relevant because they relate to the key word in my question i.e. "mandatory".The reality is that the majority of unionists will never want to speak Irish or play football or hurling. Maybe it should be enough to have a pint and play Rugby and cricket with them.

It should have been like this from the start in the 1920s.

Would you make the teaching of Irish a mandatory part of the curriculum in a United Ireland ?

Yes, of course.

btw, I wasn't asking you. I was asking the other fascist.

just to draw the lines so to speak.......

It should have been like this from the start in the 1920s.

Would you make the teaching of Irish a mandatory part of the curriculum in a United Ireland ?

Yes, of course.

kind of like a revenge penal law ?

It should have been like this from the start in the 1920s.

Would you make the teaching of Irish a mandatory part of the curriculum in a United Ireland ?

[more sinned against than sinned.]

There seem to be a more physical edge to Kerry this year as emphasised in THE BATTLE OF KILLARNEY.  GAlvin seems to be the logical next step

Where were you last year? They battered everyone (who gave them a game) before and after them last year in the Championship!

Red card count says differently - more sinned against than sinned.

yup.Lads were able to kick us around the place last year and escape suspension. It's a miracle that we won anything.

Pish! What were the black and yellow card counts?

Even your fans attacked our players for gods sake ! Definitely more sinned against than sinned.

[more sinned against than sinned.]

There seem to be a more physical edge to Kerry this year as emphasised in THE BATTLE OF KILLARNEY.  GAlvin seems to be the logical next step

Where were you last year? They battered everyone (who gave them a game) before and after them last year in the Championship!

Red card count says differently - more sinned against than sinned.

yup.Lads were able to kick us around the place last year and escape suspension. It's a miracle that we won anything.

[It just means they are not tethered to their locality like the GAA is]

The Laois under 21 thread is a great example of why the link to place makes the GAA what it is. It is not always about winning.
Turning to pro franchises would destroy the essence of the games. If the Limerick franchise went bust maybe Athlone would buy it. Look at US sport. Pure shite for the sake of money.

US Sport is brilliant!

But franchises owe no loyalty to supporters when the business model fails.
Imagine Syf if Ros won the All Ireland. Money could not buy that.
Liverpool is different.  Not enough money.

True. But that doesn't mean the sport is shite. It just means they are not tethered to their locality like the GAA is. Bit of a non-sequitor. Although College Sports are more in line with our understanding of being bound to a place and a tradition.

Agreed. For example we are all aware of the deep ties between Ballinasloe and Liverpool. The Americans have nothing to compare with that deep , emotional commitment to ones "local" team.

It is not a laughing matter Muppet. Either you are serious about financial reform, in all its manifestations, or you are not.

Sadly to say, it appears you are not.

Christ..self scanning ...very fancy...how much did this system cost ?

Are you afraid of what you might find? 

In light of recent events it is a very pertinent question don't you think ?

I agree.

You badly need to self-scan.

But will you reveal the results? 

It is very disappointing that a man so supposedly committed to investigating debt in Irish society should be so blasé about such huge debts that exist within his own county board.

You are just like Seafoid. Nothing of substance behind all the bluster and righteous indignation.

Does it really matter if he touched it or not. He occupied defenders who otherwise could have been pushed up the field.  Not to worry though as we got there in the end. Just a pity for some of the players from that team

Of course it matters. If he never touched the ball then I fail to see how he could have affected the result ?

Why are you Tyrone lads so paranoid  about this

Etc is "leftfooterish"? Protestant??
Or do you mean unique and distinguished like Ros people?

Don't feed the poor lad. He's been hungry ever since the Tyrone lads wised up to his game.

I've always had more time for the Longford lads. Decent county. None of the delusional Roscommon airs and graces.

Why is that I wonder ?

Etc is "leftfooterish"? Protestant??
Or do you mean unique and distinguished like Ros people?

I mean,like,  it is not quite "Connacht" , like I said. Roscommon is the midlands. A mouthy version of Longford so to speak.