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Sunday game showing a few more strikes by the small brothers. Absolute tramps, closed fist off the ball strikes.

Which Tyrone "tr**p" broke Paddy Andrews' jaw? The sanctimonious bull**it from Tyrone supporters is sickening. Come on Kerry.

Well done Mayo.

You have been in lockstep with Dublin over the last ten glorious years and have never let us out of your sights. It's appropriate that you are the ones who were there the day the music died. It was a tough game with neither side holding back but I'm sure that's the way Mayo would want it – a victory handed to them on a plate would be no use to them. I believe all Dublin supporters will be wishing you all the best in the Final.

As a Dublin fan the last ten years have been a golden era which back in the early 2000s none of us would ever have foreseen. We were blessed to be able to follow the best Gaelic football team that ever was or probably ever will be. The scale of Dublin's achievement can be appreciated by considering that Mayo's stunning performance last night would have to be replicated in almost every significant game between now and 2030.     

[COYBIB]

Once again it's the Dubs and Mayo, and once again Mayo will be trying to get over a hurdle they have seldom managed since before the 1950s. Some people are saying the Dubs are there for the taking but I guess an amount of that is wishful thinking. Tomorrow will tell.

COYBIB

Dubs team for Sunday

https://www.dublingaa.ie/news/dublin-senior-football-team-named-for-leinster-final-clash-with-kildare

Good show but Dubs still on course for 11 in a row.
Even the EPL is more competitive.

What's that old saying about a broken record   .?

An interesting article.


https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2021/07/06/news/kicking-out-cluxton-sacrificng-farewell-to-give-comerford-cover-the-last-mark-of-greatness-2376742/

[Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

The reference to Meath above is meaningless.

Meath haven't won an All-Ireland senior final since 1999 (the end of the last century), so it's unlikely that they would have been contenders this year no matter what sort of team Dublin might have at the moment. In addition, Dublin have won 30 All-Ireland championships to Meath's 7 which suggests that at any time during the history of the GAA Dublin would be more likely winners than Meath.

And if we look at the Leinster Championship and one-sided results, in 1955 Dublin beat Meath by 5-12 to 0-07 in the Leinster Final.

(Of course none of the above is in any way meant to be disrespectful to Meath - the home of my grandparents!)

Dublin have won 14 of the last 15 Leinsters AFAIK.
This never happened before.
Meath have 21 Leinsters to 2005 so approx 2 per decade
Meath would have won on average 3 under normal competitive conditions 05-20 , with no financial doping

Meath didn't win any Leinsters between 1895 and 1939. What does that prove? Anything you want I guess - take your pick.

All Irish people are human: therefore all humans are Irish*


*The Bluffers Guide to Logic

Apple have invented this thing called the mean. It's a very popular.
Mean reversion is going to be a laugh when it happens to Dublin.

I think you'll find that the Dubs play the Momentum Strategy.

The future is never linear

That's what I've always argued. The Thousand Year Reich will eventually meet a bump in the road and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about when someone wearing a different colour goes up to collect the Sam Maguire. He might even be wearing maroon.

1 year out of 10 Dublin might not win!? woohoo, that really is a mouth watering prospect

Have you also put up the white flag for Mayo? Is that the consensus in Mayo?

[Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

The reference to Meath above is meaningless.

Meath haven't won an All-Ireland senior final since 1999 (the end of the last century), so it's unlikely that they would have been contenders this year no matter what sort of team Dublin might have at the moment. In addition, Dublin have won 30 All-Ireland championships to Meath's 7 which suggests that at any time during the history of the GAA Dublin would be more likely winners than Meath.

And if we look at the Leinster Championship and one-sided results, in 1955 Dublin beat Meath by 5-12 to 0-07 in the Leinster Final.

(Of course none of the above is in any way meant to be disrespectful to Meath - the home of my grandparents!)

Dublin have won 14 of the last 15 Leinsters AFAIK.
This never happened before.
Meath have 21 Leinsters to 2005 so approx 2 per decade
Meath would have won on average 3 under normal competitive conditions 05-20 , with no financial doping

Meath didn't win any Leinsters between 1895 and 1939. What does that prove? Anything you want I guess - take your pick.

All Irish people are human: therefore all humans are Irish*


*The Bluffers Guide to Logic

Apple have invented this thing called the mean. It's a very popular.
Mean reversion is going to be a laugh when it happens to Dublin.

I think you'll find that the Dubs play the Momentum Strategy.

The future is never linear

That's what I've always argued. The Thousand Year Reich will eventually meet a bump in the road and we'll wonder what all the fuss was about when someone wearing a different colour goes up to collect the Sam Maguire. He might even be wearing maroon.

[Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

The reference to Meath above is meaningless.

Meath haven't won an All-Ireland senior final since 1999 (the end of the last century), so it's unlikely that they would have been contenders this year no matter what sort of team Dublin might have at the moment. In addition, Dublin have won 30 All-Ireland championships to Meath's 7 which suggests that at any time during the history of the GAA Dublin would be more likely winners than Meath.

And if we look at the Leinster Championship and one-sided results, in 1955 Dublin beat Meath by 5-12 to 0-07 in the Leinster Final.

(Of course none of the above is in any way meant to be disrespectful to Meath - the home of my grandparents!)

Dublin have won 14 of the last 15 Leinsters AFAIK.
This never happened before.
Meath have 21 Leinsters to 2005 so approx 2 per decade
Meath would have won on average 3 under normal competitive conditions 05-20 , with no financial doping

Meath didn't win any Leinsters between 1895 and 1939. What does that prove? Anything you want I guess - take your pick.

All Irish people are human: therefore all humans are Irish*


*The Bluffers Guide to Logic

Apple have invented this thing called the mean. It's a very popular.
Mean reversion is going to be a laugh when it happens to Dublin.

I think you'll find that the Dubs play the Momentum Strategy.

[Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

The reference to Meath above is meaningless.

Meath haven't won an All-Ireland senior final since 1999 (the end of the last century), so it's unlikely that they would have been contenders this year no matter what sort of team Dublin might have at the moment. In addition, Dublin have won 30 All-Ireland championships to Meath's 7 which suggests that at any time during the history of the GAA Dublin would be more likely winners than Meath.

And if we look at the Leinster Championship and one-sided results, in 1955 Dublin beat Meath by 5-12 to 0-07 in the Leinster Final.

(Of course none of the above is in any way meant to be disrespectful to Meath - the home of my grandparents!)

Dublin have won 14 of the last 15 Leinsters AFAIK.
This never happened before.
Meath have 21 Leinsters to 2005 so approx 2 per decade
Meath would have won on average 3 under normal competitive conditions 05-20 , with no financial doping

Meath didn't win any Leinsters between 1895 and 1939. What does that prove? Anything you want I guess - take your pick.

All Irish people are human: therefore all humans are Irish*


*The Bluffers Guide to Logic

Why don't the 31 counties join the Tailteann cup? It would be competitive.
Dublin could find something with Sky, I'm sure.

So you're capitulating on behalf of 31 counties - is that not a bit presumptive?

I'm sure that counties like Kerry, Cork, Mayo, Galway, Meath, Tyrone, Donegal, Monaghan, Armagh, Down and others would not be prepared to march behind your white flag. 

[Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different]

Non Dublin games are interesting because there's a doubt about the outcome or a chance of a surprise.
Dublin games including the AI Final are foregone conclusions

There was very little discussion of the elephant in the room after the aif. In the Sindo Colm O'Rourke and Brolly treated it as a normal match. Same in the Irish Times and on TSG/RTE

There was far more criticism after the semi and the Leinster Final.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1330254398535176204

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheSundayGame/status/1335712179580973063⁰0

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1122/1179771-orourke-meath-humiliation-bad-reflection-on-leinster/

Maybe if Meath were being ritually humiliated in the AIF he might be different.

I think that all of the journos behave because it's one of the marquee days in Irish sport and the biggest date in the GAA calendar, a day that drives a big chunk of GAA revenue, when hundreds of thousands of casual fans tune in as well as a massive advertisement for the GAA.

Nobody yet wants to say that the golden goose is no longer breathing. So the nonsense continues

The reference to Meath above is meaningless.

Meath haven't won an All-Ireland senior final since 1999 (the end of the last century), so it's unlikely that they would have been contenders this year no matter what sort of team Dublin might have at the moment. In addition, Dublin have won 30 All-Ireland championships to Meath's 7 which suggests that at any time during the history of the GAA Dublin would be more likely winners than Meath.

And if we look at the Leinster Championship and one-sided results, in 1955 Dublin beat Meath by 5-12 to 0-07 in the Leinster Final.

(Of course none of the above is in any way meant to be disrespectful to Meath - the home of my grandparents!)

Galway in theory should be doing better, won 3 All Irelands in the last decade at u 20/21 level and lost another final. Tom Flynn is the only mainstay Galway got from the 2011 team and he was still there 2013 along with Shane Walsh & Comer. Ian Burke & Varley played too that day but you'd hardly call them fixtures in the senior side since. I'm sure Daithi Burke would probably have been but has been lost to the hurlers. So Galway have got a grand total of 3 players from 2 all Ireland winning teams, its a huge let down and its not like either side were huge teams who won through physically dominating their opponents.

Galway have used a lot of players the last 3 years, would be very surprised if any Div 1 side has used more than Galway; Only have to look at the difference between the side that lost to Dublin in 2018 and Mayo in 2019 & 2020.

Like the other posters on here going into 2021 Galway don't have enough top players who've nailed down their place in the team. With any confidence Sean Kelly, John Daly, Shane Walsh & Comer are the only 4 players I can name who will definitely be part of a starting 15 and probably Tom Flynn & Heaney although positionally wise he could be anywhere  from corner back to half forward.

I'd give McDaid more time, looked like he was going to be a future All Star back in 2017 but since he came back from Australia he's been riddled with injuries and not played enough football whilst Cooke who was outstanding against Mayo in 2019 is in the States currently. Michael Daly isn't good enough of an athlete to play the way he does and its familiar theme in the Galway team, not enough athletic players. The Corofin lads are all top footballers but don't think any of them have that athletic ability that's required although don't think Molloy hasn't had the chance to put down a marker. The likes of Brannigan is a good athlete but probably not good enough of a footballer to make the starting team if Galway are serious about winning All Irelands. Maybe I'm been a bit harsh but it is clear Galway don't have enough players of athletic ability.

Galway have beaten Mayo the last 5 occasions they've met at 20/21 level yet Mayo have got more out of those teams although that's mainly down to the last 12 months. Given all the success Galway have had at 20/21 they should not be in this position, its a numbers game and Galway should be doing better given they've done the most difficult part of the development.

I'm still not sure why Galway have not been able to emulate the successes of the Galway teams of the Twelve Glorious Years. Those teams had to co-exist with the likes of Kerry, Dublin, Down, Offaly, Meath and of course Mayo. Yet they reached the pinnacle in 1964 through 1966.   

They were a classy team that I really admired (and as an aside, the first book on Gaelic games that I read was Jack Mahon's "The Twelve Glorious Years".

After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?

In a word: no.
Dublin get one good Senior player off their panel and it's just another player into an already very competitive and successful squad, job done, that's all they need. Galway need a lot more than one player to come through in the next few years to even give Dublin a proper game and that's the truth of it.

If the U20 match Saturday was 70 minutes, Dublin would have won pulling up, already could see the superior S&C shining through for that age group, Galway started taking the wrong option way more down the stretch because they were flaked. Dubs still coming as if it was only the 20th minute of the match. Galway were for me the better team for the majority of the match and were left clinging on in the finish.

I don't want to get into some argument over Galway needing to sort out their own house or the ins and outs of Dublin's advantages, it is what it is. Galway would need to hit on an unbelievable amount of players from that U20 team to be winning an All Ireland, past experience would tell you it just doesn't happen that way.

At Senior we've been in one semi final and no final in 20 years, we're a mile off if you look at it without maroon tinted glasses and it'll take more than the decent prospects from that U20 team to rectify that situation.

I saw the great Galway team of the early '60s play and they were majestic. What is preventing the county from achieving that standard now?

After the impressive win by the Galway lads on Saturday do any of the Galway contributors here believe that Galway can win a senior All-Ireland in the next few years?