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I'm not disappointed we didn't get Carsley tbh. From what I hear he's a good coach but I think international management requires a different skill set. You'll want somebody tactical and a good motivator. You're not necessarily looking a guy that's brilliant on the training pitch to improve players as the limitations in the time you have with them probably won't allow you to develop them much anyway. That said Lennon or Keane wouldn't necessarily fit the bill either.

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

I stand corrected!

I'm aware that saying so goes completely against the whole ethos of the discussion board, if not SM sites in general lol

😂 An inspiration to all my friend.

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

I have just quoted you the electoral commission regulations which states that it is 100% not allowed.

That's a teller. They'll stand outside the gates and count people going in.

What I'm talking about is a Polling Agent. We literally have to set up a table for them and leave a copy (a different colour to the real one) of the electoral register on that table. They aren't allowed to take it out of the polling station and it gets taken back to the main polling centre after polls closed but they have access to that thing from 7am -10pm. They have to be known in advance and when they arrive they show ID to the Polling Station manager and they have to keep a log throughout the day of who comes and goes be it polling agents, police, electoral staff or any other information like if someone tries to vote that's maybe done a proxy or postal vote etc.

[Kerry]

Kerry v Derry
Dublin v Monaghan
Galway v Mayo
Tyrone v Roscommon

Meath v Fermanagh
Kildare v Cavan
Armagh v Louth
Donegal v Cork

Limerick v Antrim
Clare v Sligo
Offaly v Westmeath
Wicklow v Down

Laois v Longford
Tipperary v Carlow
London v Wexford
Waterford v Leitrim

I am pretty sure you cannot sit in the polling station regardless of what political party you come from.

Observers can sit in on the count at the count centre though to verify numbers of votes though the voting process is confidential and a vote can not be linked to an individual.

You can surely. SF have always done this at my local one. I'm sure the DUP do the same in Unionist areas. They will be sitting at a table by themselves and when the clerk calls out your name and address, the party official will score you off on their copy of the register. They take this back to party HQ where it is input into a database so that when they are canvassing next time round, they will know if you are a likely voter/nonvoter before you've even answered the door (though they won't know who you voted for unless you've told them when they canvassed last time round)

For the real staunch areas it's useful on polling day as around 6pm the database is able to produce a list of people who
1) Indicted in canvassing they would vote for your candidate
AND
2) Have not voted that day yet.
From this they can go door to door on the evening of polling day offering lifts, encouraging them to go to vote etc.

Nothing explicitly illegal any of this EXCEPT the fact they are technically storing data on you which you have not consented to. This caused a ruckus a while back with SF. Other parties kept remarkably quiet because they know they all do the exact same thing.

Never seen anyone other than the Electoral office officials in a poll centre,  am sure that this is  against the regs.

Found this:


1 http://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/179741/Code-of-conduct-for␂campaigners-2015.pdf
2 Tellers are an established part of the democratic process although they have no standing in law.
Tellers are usually volunteers for candidates, parties or campaigns who are positioned outside a
polling station to ask voters for their elector number to see whether their supporters have turned out..
This activity is not illegal and may help to increase turnout by allowing campaigners to contact
electors who have not voted. However, tellers may be seen as impeding, obstructing or intimidating
electors on their way into the polling station/place. Any decision regarding the location or behaviour of
tellers is a matter for the Presiding Officer and RO, and tellers must comply with their instructions.
3 See Erlam & Ors v Rahman & Anor [2015] EWHC 1215 (QB) paragraphs 163 – 169 and 575 – 624.

It's 100% allowed and the parties have to give a list in advance of who will be there. They take it in shifts a few hours at a time. 

[Jeff did not say they were unknown people]

So Jeffrey was  threatened , by  an unnamed person(s).  Very convenient 

So now he's  reduced the heat on himself and Colm  Eastwood even coming  out in support of him.

He should have  turned on the tears as well. That  would have  put the tin hat on it

Threatened by an unknown person who, when he checked hadn't voted!
How can he check if someone voted? I thought that was anonymous?
Can't be an unknown person if he knows them!

Whole thing is a deflection....ironic give  he said he wouldn't be deflected.

No sympathy for him, I don't condone threats, I mean the situation he and the dup are in. Its self made and we are all suffering for their party politics.

Jeff did not say they were unknown people, it's possible he could have checked earlier online comments made. Wasn't it Donaldson who threatened Trimble back in the day?
I see he was spoofing about all the alterations to the protocol that he alone was able to negotiate.

My bad, I misread unnamed as unknown.
I still don't understand how he can check if someone voted.

He's full of it. Don't believe a word he says to be honest and I'm surprised so many have been taken in by the performance.
I was never a huge fan of SDLPs Eastwood, but he seriously went down in my estimations yesterday with how he responded. He's right to condemn threats of course, but good god.

You get checked off if you vote. Register can be viewed, just not who you voted for.

Never new it!
Can anyone see it?

They probably don't even need to do that. In your polling station there's a table set up for Polling Agents and they have a blank copy of the register. When a voter comes in they'll come to the voting desk and give ID etc, the staff then have to shout out that person's number so the polling agent can then mark them as voted on their own register.

I've worked half a dozen elections in the Glens of Antrim so only ever seen Sinn Fein polling agents but I'm sure in DUP strongholds they'll have them working. If there's people who haven't voted they'll contact them and offer them lifts to the polling station etc.

Finals on TG4? Or online anywhere?

Beat MVG in the final. This kid is the real deal

I think Derry hurling has a rule in place to stop a team going below their level. Lavey won Junior in 2022 but couldn't play Ulster due to the rule so Na Magha represented them.

The ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

So what way will the NHL be run this year? I don't think there is relegation as such.. Winning one game to stay in LMcC will be the objective and trying to unearth some new talent

Top 3 in 1a and 1b will form 1a in 2025 along with the winner of a playoff between the two 4th place teams.

Loser of that playoff will join the other div 1 teams and 2 from div 2 in 1b for next year.

If we had everyone available I'd probably target making that 4th place match up by beating Westmeath and Dublin but can't see us beating Dublin now so probably going to be 1b.

Hope you didn't bother...

That's an all time catastrophic collapse from the Eagles. Lost 6 of their last 7 having already lost to Zach Wilson!

Made it through three quarters which was an achievement considering how bad they were.

Even at 10-1 there had been a lot of strange performances. Falling behind then getting it together to win or hammering teams then letting them back in. Last 7 weeks have been horrible. Offense doing next to nothing, play calling dreadful. Defense getting contact with players but not finishing the tackle.

Disappointing but I've had plenty of that following the Eagles.

The ones I know for definite are Ryan Elliott, Joe Maskey, Keelan Molloy and Eoin O'Neill. Add Neil to that and it's a big loss. Hopefully, the other ones mentioned here just have wee niggles and will be back for the league as that's a big lot of lads to do without.

I thought Seaan and Nigel were heading away as well.

Might be wrong about Seaan but pretty sure I read that Nigel is definitely travelling again.

I was basing it on an article from November which does mention Seaan too but missed him in my post.

Seems Nigel gone too according to multiple posters.

Need to try to survive this year while bedding in a few new ones. That's close to half a team and nearly all starters too.

Thinking about trying to stay up for this Eagles game. Not sure if I have it in me though.

The reality is the direction of the blame will be guided by the media and they're bought and paid for by the scum who are refusing to give working people respectable pay increases. People have had enough.

Coby definitely took 3 or 4 in the first half as I was wondering (again) about the action he uses every time. Early on it seemed Rian took a few close in ones and Coby the ones further out as he was playing much deeper.