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Maybe so Larry, but that's not the rule.

17 counties were investigated for trips taken. 13 of the trips were found not to have broken any rules. One of the 13 was Dublin. But it seems some people haven't manage to get their fill of whinging in for 2018 yet, so work away lads!

One of the 13 was Tyrone. The club games were all moved forward to a Friday night that weekend and the county players played. They then met up on the Saturday and went away for a night. I'm not sure if it broke the rule but it certainly shouldn't have been penalised and was different to the Dubs.

[sure that was an accidental tackle]

Could someone please point out why Sean Cavanagh's face was on the news last night when discussing the recent fighting at GAA matches, sure that was an accidental tackle and the lad was cleared by Tyrone Co Board so why show his face as if he was battered by someone in the crowd

I'm not sure everyone at the game or who I've since seen the video agreed with that conclusion. If there did look to be intent the county board's attitude maybe sums up the problem trying to keep things like this out of the game.

What date is the Down final?

Coney was very good on the ball and controlled a lot of the game but I still don't think MH will allow him to coast through a game the way he does.  There is so much more in Kyle, such a frustrating player to watch.  He could up his work-rate 10% easily and take the game to any opposition.  He's a big fish in a small pond dictating to his team mates he wouldn't get to do that in Tyrone.  No doubt he has the skill and talent to make an impact, I worry about the attitude and work rate.

He maybe worked a bit harder than earlier years but I didn't see a massive difference in him from his Tyrone days. He likes to get on the ball around the middle where there is less opposition pressure and then try to spray spectacular passes. Some of them were excellent, others didn't come off. I didn't see him driving forward with the ball and taking anyone on or getting a shot off. He'd be worth his place on the panel, whether he would do enough to start I'm not sure.

When you consider some of the bookings in the game yesterday it's hard to believe the challenge on cavanagh wasn't punished. He caught the ball and had time to turn before being absolutely cleaned with two knees to the head. If there was intent it was a horrible action that could easily have had even more serious consequences. Trouble seems to follow Barton and his team around.

A draw didn't really suit either team. Where any of you at the game or what are you basing a fix on? People don't be long throwing about accusations with no facts.

Any club member should get priority over a season ticket holder???
A club member pays an annual subscription to his/her club and doesn't have to attend any matches whatsoever. A season ticket holder pays out more and that is before the expense of travelling away to these games.

This.

I know people who volunteer at their Club 3 or 4 nights a week. When NFL or McKenna Cup games are on they dont have time OR have work commitments OR Club commitments on that mean they cant attend.

For example. In Feb someone coaches the senior team. Training Tues
Training Fri
Match Sun

Saturday is given over to catching up at home or family time. So it's fair they.miss out to someone who never darkens the Club door?

There is plenty of tickets for this relatively small number of club people along with the die hard Tyrone fans who follow the team whether they are going well or not. The issue is some people here are suggesting that general members deserve tickets ahead of the season ticket holders. As noted most of the season ticket holders are active club supporters and members as well.

The season ticket system is great for rewarding the loyal fans with attendance being monitored. This isn't always the case when tickets are dealt with through the clubs as often those in the know are sorted first and the most loyal fans who go to games all year could end up in a draw for tickets with someone who hasn't been to a game.

As I said earlier if it wasn't for the season ticket holders Tyrone would have little or no support at a lot of the non home games.

I'd be fairly confident that the vast majority of season ticket holders would be club members and supporters as well. There would be a few that have moved away from home and perhaps aren't involved in a club and therefore use the season ticket for access to tickets but that wouldn't be a huge number.

How did the season ticket holders fare out this time round ? I hope they got seats. I saw a lad crying his eyes  out on the terrace at the Dublin game because he couldn't see a thing.  He and his family were season tickets holders and had attended all the games up to then. They will not be renewing next year.

That was the very first time in my experience, and I've been a continuous season ticket holder since their inception, that we were denied Stand access, anywhere, never mind for a 'home' game. So it's not surprising that there will be disaffected holders after that fairly disgraceful snub, and they'll have no one to blame but themselves, for treating their bankrollers with such ill-disguised contempt.

Hmm don't agree wholeheartedly. The first option for tickets in my opinion for these bigger games should be the clubs. Season ticket holders should be below them. The whole stand access and being disgruntled doesn't wash. Dry your eyes. You still got to the game.  And I'm not getting at you or anything Fear an Srath Ban. Just an opinion.

If it wasn't for the season ticket holders Tyrone would have had very little or no support in Carlow, Enniskillen or the away league games. It's the season ticket holders that follow the team all year and deserve their tickets for the big games. The vast majority of club members weren't involved in club activities clashing with those games and couldn't be bothered going. That's fair enough but they shouldn't dominate all the seated tickets when they do go. There should certainly be an allocation but season ticket holders should also be accommodated.

I'd love to see a breakdown of how many tickets the Tyrone clubs sold for all the championship games to date.

We'll bring a decent crowd but it won't be huge. We have too many "fans" spoilt by the success of the 2000's who would rather sit at home and give out to anyone that will listen about the bad manager we have rather than go out and actually give the team a bit of support. They'll be the first one's jumping on the bandwagon if there is a bit of success too.

The bottom line is - the rules do not allow it. And if we're suggesting rules should be broken when it suits us I'd suggest that's a large part of the problem with this country....everyone believes they're "an exception" or "a one-off" and should get favourable treatment. That's basically the system we're used to under FF/FG and co but it's not right.

I'd suggest the people who are outraged use their energy to put motions through GAA clubs and get the rules changed at congress. It's a long time since the old rule 42 was amended to allow rugby and soccer into Croke Park while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped. I've seen or heard of no motion to further relax the rules being defeated. We can't have rule changes by media outcry. There's a process. For all its faults it has stood the GAA in good stead. The agenda can't be set by the news reel.

The rule is an ass. It always has been. It was an ass 20 years ago when the GAA made fools of themselves over the Omagh match and it is an ass now. It's an ass like "The Ban" was an ass.

What this needs is for people in Cork GAA to stand up and have a bit of courage and to take on and flagrantly break the rule. Let the GAA discipline them if they so wish. They'll just be proving Damien Duff 100% correct.

Read the statement from the club chairman in Wexford detailing how his club are constantly breaking the rules. Let the GAA go and discipline him and his club if they want to prove they are dinosaurs once and for all.

You say the gaa made a fool of themselves 20 years ago over Omagh. Did the soccer match not go ahead and there was issues over money going missing and very little if anything went to charity? On the other hand the gaa donated the full gate receipts from an All Ireland semi final replay which amounted to a substantial amount?

Of course the GAA made fools of themselves over Omagh. The match couldn't be played in Healy Park because of a backward rule which is an absolute embarrassment to the GAA.

Tyrone brought a motion the next year and it got nowhere.

This isn't about taxpayers' money, or what happened to charity money, or idiotic supermarket analogies.

It's about not being d**kheads.

It's about the complete stupidity of a rule that refuses to allow local GAA units and local communities to decide what is best for them and their communities.

Until the GAA as a whole admits the futility and stupidity of the rule, they will continue to be d**kheads.

When you consider what happened with the money from the "charity" game in Omagh you'd wonder how much benefit it would have been opening it up.

Who is this gaa that you keep calling d**kheads? You do know that the gaa is made up of tens of thousands of members and clubs giving their time voluntarily to promote the sport. This includes thousands of hours keeping children active and providing them with multiple qualities including discipline.

So what if the gaa members don't want to promote rival sports. That is their prerogative. There is plenty of sports grounds around the country that gaa wouldn't be welcome in and it's not an issue. Other sports have put money into paying players (some potential gaa players) and boys like Delaney instead of having adequate facilities. Again that is up to them but you can't come crying to what is essentially a rival demanding the use of their facilities.

In terms of this game it probably should have gone ahead as I assume it is a genuine charity game. But you can't go round demanding the use of something that isn't yours.

1. What grounds are the GAA not welcome in?
2. You missed the bit where as a condition of funding the GAA agreed to allow these events.
3. Do you understand that the GAA for decades got every cent of public sports funding and still get most of it? Do you think thats a factor in the standards of facilities?

I'm not arguing with anyone who makes things up. Point 3 is so far from factual it's not even funny.

The GAA get about 85% of capital grants in the 26, although that level is falling. Thats billions over the years.  Is this in dispute?

That's a big difference to sports funding including for example tax breaks.

Unreal too that in the past soccer and rugby etc got no capital funding at all. Fair play them for building the Aviva and Shamrock Rovers grounds etc without it.

what bit of the ratio is falling was too complicated for you?

You said that for decades the gaa got nearly every cent of public sports funding (you didn't mention capital). This was hugely inaccurate.

You've now changed it to capital funding and are still saying the gaa got nearly every cent of capital funding in the past. Again this can't be true as the likes of the Aviva was built in the past and I'm pretty sure they got a large portion of government money.

Interestingly Bertie wanted a new stadium built that could be used for soccer rugby and gaa. However it was shot down as they said the gaa pitch was too big.

The bottom line is - the rules do not allow it. And if we're suggesting rules should be broken when it suits us I'd suggest that's a large part of the problem with this country....everyone believes they're "an exception" or "a one-off" and should get favourable treatment. That's basically the system we're used to under FF/FG and co but it's not right.

I'd suggest the people who are outraged use their energy to put motions through GAA clubs and get the rules changed at congress. It's a long time since the old rule 42 was amended to allow rugby and soccer into Croke Park while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped. I've seen or heard of no motion to further relax the rules being defeated. We can't have rule changes by media outcry. There's a process. For all its faults it has stood the GAA in good stead. The agenda can't be set by the news reel.

The rule is an ass. It always has been. It was an ass 20 years ago when the GAA made fools of themselves over the Omagh match and it is an ass now. It's an ass like "The Ban" was an ass.

What this needs is for people in Cork GAA to stand up and have a bit of courage and to take on and flagrantly break the rule. Let the GAA discipline them if they so wish. They'll just be proving Damien Duff 100% correct.

Read the statement from the club chairman in Wexford detailing how his club are constantly breaking the rules. Let the GAA go and discipline him and his club if they want to prove they are dinosaurs once and for all.

You say the gaa made a fool of themselves 20 years ago over Omagh. Did the soccer match not go ahead and there was issues over money going missing and very little if anything went to charity? On the other hand the gaa donated the full gate receipts from an All Ireland semi final replay which amounted to a substantial amount?

Of course the GAA made fools of themselves over Omagh. The match couldn't be played in Healy Park because of a backward rule which is an absolute embarrassment to the GAA.

Tyrone brought a motion the next year and it got nowhere.

This isn't about taxpayers' money, or what happened to charity money, or idiotic supermarket analogies.

It's about not being d**kheads.

It's about the complete stupidity of a rule that refuses to allow local GAA units and local communities to decide what is best for them and their communities.

Until the GAA as a whole admits the futility and stupidity of the rule, they will continue to be d**kheads.

When you consider what happened with the money from the "charity" game in Omagh you'd wonder how much benefit it would have been opening it up.

Who is this gaa that you keep calling d**kheads? You do know that the gaa is made up of tens of thousands of members and clubs giving their time voluntarily to promote the sport. This includes thousands of hours keeping children active and providing them with multiple qualities including discipline.

So what if the gaa members don't want to promote rival sports. That is their prerogative. There is plenty of sports grounds around the country that gaa wouldn't be welcome in and it's not an issue. Other sports have put money into paying players (some potential gaa players) and boys like Delaney instead of having adequate facilities. Again that is up to them but you can't come crying to what is essentially a rival demanding the use of their facilities.

In terms of this game it probably should have gone ahead as I assume it is a genuine charity game. But you can't go round demanding the use of something that isn't yours.

1. What grounds are the GAA not welcome in?
2. You missed the bit where as a condition of funding the GAA agreed to allow these events.
3. Do you understand that the GAA for decades got every cent of public sports funding and still get most of it? Do you think thats a factor in the standards of facilities?

I'm not arguing with anyone who makes things up. Point 3 is so far from factual it's not even funny.

The GAA get about 85% of capital grants in the 26, although that level is falling. Thats billions over the years.  Is this in dispute?

That's a big difference to sports funding including for example tax breaks.

Unreal too that in the past soccer and rugby etc got no capital funding at all. Fair play them for building the Aviva and Shamrock Rovers grounds etc without it.

The bottom line is - the rules do not allow it. And if we're suggesting rules should be broken when it suits us I'd suggest that's a large part of the problem with this country....everyone believes they're "an exception" or "a one-off" and should get favourable treatment. That's basically the system we're used to under FF/FG and co but it's not right.

I'd suggest the people who are outraged use their energy to put motions through GAA clubs and get the rules changed at congress. It's a long time since the old rule 42 was amended to allow rugby and soccer into Croke Park while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped. I've seen or heard of no motion to further relax the rules being defeated. We can't have rule changes by media outcry. There's a process. For all its faults it has stood the GAA in good stead. The agenda can't be set by the news reel.

The rule is an ass. It always has been. It was an ass 20 years ago when the GAA made fools of themselves over the Omagh match and it is an ass now. It's an ass like "The Ban" was an ass.

What this needs is for people in Cork GAA to stand up and have a bit of courage and to take on and flagrantly break the rule. Let the GAA discipline them if they so wish. They'll just be proving Damien Duff 100% correct.

Read the statement from the club chairman in Wexford detailing how his club are constantly breaking the rules. Let the GAA go and discipline him and his club if they want to prove they are dinosaurs once and for all.

You say the gaa made a fool of themselves 20 years ago over Omagh. Did the soccer match not go ahead and there was issues over money going missing and very little if anything went to charity? On the other hand the gaa donated the full gate receipts from an All Ireland semi final replay which amounted to a substantial amount?

Of course the GAA made fools of themselves over Omagh. The match couldn't be played in Healy Park because of a backward rule which is an absolute embarrassment to the GAA.

Tyrone brought a motion the next year and it got nowhere.

This isn't about taxpayers' money, or what happened to charity money, or idiotic supermarket analogies.

It's about not being d**kheads.

It's about the complete stupidity of a rule that refuses to allow local GAA units and local communities to decide what is best for them and their communities.

Until the GAA as a whole admits the futility and stupidity of the rule, they will continue to be d**kheads.

When you consider what happened with the money from the "charity" game in Omagh you'd wonder how much benefit it would have been opening it up.

Who is this gaa that you keep calling d**kheads? You do know that the gaa is made up of tens of thousands of members and clubs giving their time voluntarily to promote the sport. This includes thousands of hours keeping children active and providing them with multiple qualities including discipline.

So what if the gaa members don't want to promote rival sports. That is their prerogative. There is plenty of sports grounds around the country that gaa wouldn't be welcome in and it's not an issue. Other sports have put money into paying players (some potential gaa players) and boys like Delaney instead of having adequate facilities. Again that is up to them but you can't come crying to what is essentially a rival demanding the use of their facilities.

In terms of this game it probably should have gone ahead as I assume it is a genuine charity game. But you can't go round demanding the use of something that isn't yours.

1. What grounds are the GAA not welcome in?
2. You missed the bit where as a condition of funding the GAA agreed to allow these events.
3. Do you understand that the GAA for decades got every cent of public sports funding and still get most of it? Do you think thats a factor in the standards of facilities?

I'm not arguing with anyone who makes things up. Point 3 is so far from factual it's not even funny.

The bottom line is - the rules do not allow it. And if we're suggesting rules should be broken when it suits us I'd suggest that's a large part of the problem with this country....everyone believes they're "an exception" or "a one-off" and should get favourable treatment. That's basically the system we're used to under FF/FG and co but it's not right.

I'd suggest the people who are outraged use their energy to put motions through GAA clubs and get the rules changed at congress. It's a long time since the old rule 42 was amended to allow rugby and soccer into Croke Park while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped. I've seen or heard of no motion to further relax the rules being defeated. We can't have rule changes by media outcry. There's a process. For all its faults it has stood the GAA in good stead. The agenda can't be set by the news reel.

The rule is an ass. It always has been. It was an ass 20 years ago when the GAA made fools of themselves over the Omagh match and it is an ass now. It's an ass like "The Ban" was an ass.

What this needs is for people in Cork GAA to stand up and have a bit of courage and to take on and flagrantly break the rule. Let the GAA discipline them if they so wish. They'll just be proving Damien Duff 100% correct.

Read the statement from the club chairman in Wexford detailing how his club are constantly breaking the rules. Let the GAA go and discipline him and his club if they want to prove they are dinosaurs once and for all.

You say the gaa made a fool of themselves 20 years ago over Omagh. Did the soccer match not go ahead and there was issues over money going missing and very little if anything went to charity? On the other hand the gaa donated the full gate receipts from an All Ireland semi final replay which amounted to a substantial amount?

Of course the GAA made fools of themselves over Omagh. The match couldn't be played in Healy Park because of a backward rule which is an absolute embarrassment to the GAA.

Tyrone brought a motion the next year and it got nowhere.

This isn't about taxpayers' money, or what happened to charity money, or idiotic supermarket analogies.

It's about not being d**kheads.

It's about the complete stupidity of a rule that refuses to allow local GAA units and local communities to decide what is best for them and their communities.

Until the GAA as a whole admits the futility and stupidity of the rule, they will continue to be d**kheads.

When you consider what happened with the money from the "charity" game in Omagh you'd wonder how much benefit it would have been opening it up.

Who is this gaa that you keep calling dickheads? You do know that the gaa is made up of tens of thousands of members and clubs giving their time voluntarily to promote the sport. This includes thousands of hours keeping children active and providing them with multiple qualities including discipline.

So what if the gaa members don't want to promote rival sports. That is their prerogative. There is plenty of sports grounds around the country that gaa wouldn't be welcome in and it's not an issue. Other sports have put money into paying players (some potential gaa players) and boys like Delaney instead of having adequate facilities. Again that is up to them but you can't come crying to what is essentially a rival demanding the use of their facilities.

In terms of this game it probably should have gone ahead as I assume it is a genuine charity game. But you can't go round demanding the use of something that isn't yours.

The bottom line is - the rules do not allow it. And if we're suggesting rules should be broken when it suits us I'd suggest that's a large part of the problem with this country....everyone believes they're "an exception" or "a one-off" and should get favourable treatment. That's basically the system we're used to under FF/FG and co but it's not right.

I'd suggest the people who are outraged use their energy to put motions through GAA clubs and get the rules changed at congress. It's a long time since the old rule 42 was amended to allow rugby and soccer into Croke Park while Lansdowne Road was being redeveloped. I've seen or heard of no motion to further relax the rules being defeated. We can't have rule changes by media outcry. There's a process. For all its faults it has stood the GAA in good stead. The agenda can't be set by the news reel.

The rule is an ass. It always has been. It was an ass 20 years ago when the GAA made fools of themselves over the Omagh match and it is an ass now. It's an ass like "The Ban" was an ass.

What this needs is for people in Cork GAA to stand up and have a bit of courage and to take on and flagrantly break the rule. Let the GAA discipline them if they so wish. They'll just be proving Damien Duff 100% correct.

Read the statement from the club chairman in Wexford detailing how his club are constantly breaking the rules. Let the GAA go and discipline him and his club if they want to prove they are dinosaurs once and for all.

You say the gaa made a fool of themselves 20 years ago over Omagh. Did the soccer match not go ahead and there was issues over money going missing and very little if anything went to charity? On the other hand the gaa donated the full gate receipts from an All Ireland semi final replay which amounted to a substantial amount?