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Even when the schools were open we had days when the cases were in and around 250 that would make you think. It's not the schools that's driving it. In saying that I think a hard lockdown for 3 weeks with all schools closing and then get the schools back for the last 2 weeks of lockdown.
After the 6 weeks I think things will look a lot better. With numbers lower and the vaccine starting to show signs of working.
Pubs and restaurants will be after St Patrick's day
By Easter all will be open

You advising governments around the world?

Seany it's not that hard to work out ya clown
54% of all deaths in the north are in care homes
Had it stopped for a few months then got back into 150 odd care homes and the deaths have been happening there again
So if ya eliminate that you fool which the vaccines will

Another ballbag not in touch with reality, how many deaths were because of covid, who knows, you keep with the narrative as Milhouse would say calling out a dick.

Just seen the jeepers
That is some going
Death rates should drop by 40% when the second shot is in 3 weeks
By the end of January at that rate all care homes should be done and most of the front line workers in the nhs
That's some going

f**k that's some shite you just posted, any chance of evidence of this horseshite?

Likely same post. I would be doubtful the vaccine would be that effective that quickly. I have family in that age bracket and nothing has been mentioned to them about it so based on that I assume it hasn't been rolled out yet or rolled out fully? Any which way less in that age bracket are getting it I would just have my doubts it's due to vaccine yet.

80% of care homes now vaccinated in da Nart.

All first vaccines 2 to 3 weeks.

[I am asking you for firm evidence it does.]

I am asking you for firm evidence it does. 15th December one care home staff and residents vaccinated, today 13 positive cases.

I never claimed to have such evidence

You claimed firmly that the vaccine will not stop or inhibit spread

Where is the evidence of this

It's your question to answer, not mine

Field evidence in the human UK trial. Read it.

I am asking you for firm evidence it does. 15th December one care home staff and residents vaccinated, today 13 positive cases.

[Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread,]

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread, the whole country could be vaccinated and you could still get it, maybe you should take greater personal responsibility.

What's the evidence for your assertion?

Seaney?

Facts, care homes in the north first dose end Nov start Dec, all now reporting numerous cases, staff and residents. Have you scientific evidence it does stop the spread 

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

What we are requiring is that people present themselves for work in a manner which is not dangerous to others.
Perhaps they could be allowed a Covid test each day instead, at their own expense.

Maybe get a new job but you sound like a civil servant, doing f**k all daily so you probably wouldn't.

What you are asking for here Radio is essentially people to be injected, (potentially) against their own free will. People know there is a 98% survival rate for this thing (if you even know you get it).

What we are requiring is that people present themselves for work in a manner which is not dangerous to others.
Perhaps they could be allowed a Covid test each day instead, at their own expense.

Again they could be vaccinated and still have covid.

Impossible to police. The Government cannot simply implement a law which will override the rights of millions of workers and their personal rights.  The vaccination is an invasion of a person, you cannot make it compulsory for people to have a needle stuck in them.  That is a huge breach of civil liberties, whether it is beneficial or not, and the Government cannot do that.

With respect - f**k the rights of the stupid to be stupid if it endangers others.

There's thousands of stupid f**kers behaving recklessly and not following any guidelines, for months now, endangering me. What about my rights?

Stay in, stay safe, get vaccinated when you can. Lockdown have taken the rights away from families, the disabled, the vulnerable, the abused, cancer suffers, bereavement, mental health what about their rights, so much for we are all in it together, it's all me me me here.

The notion of making the vaccine compulsory for your job will be extremely hard to enforce. That is a significant change to a contract of employment and you can't simply make a unilateral change and enforce it on someone. If you make it as a pre-requisite for people applying for a job it will leave companies so open to potential claims.

The government need to change the law. Companies must not employ people who are a health risk to their customers and they must have the legal rights to do so. Make companies responsible for any infection from unvaccinated people.

Yawn the vaccination doesn't stop the spread, the whole country could be vaccinated and you could still get it, maybe you should take greater personal responsibility.

Is it right that one dose is 91% compared to the 95% for 2 doses ?  Tony Blair was saying today to forget about the second dose and give more people one dose.  If the above figures are right it would make sense.

Was that Tony Blair MD an expert in epidemiology  or Tony Blair WMD?

The figure of 91%  and 95% are coming from a pharma corporation Pfizer which also happens to have a criminal record. They were first to come up with the 95% claim, so it could be expected the other drug companies are compelled not to deviate too far from that 95% figure, what would the shareholders say?
That 95% figure comes from a controlled trial, the real world will provide a different challenge of efficacy and the real world is a different challenge. Not only have you got an uncontrolled mass of people who are now trialing themselves for the vaccine (it is not yet a scientifically proven medical treatment)  but the vaccine will have to be able deal with the vagaries of nature, aka evolution - a natural adaption alteration of the virus structure. If this vaccine follows the record of previous  flu type virus vaccines , that claimed 95% efficacy in the real world will probably drop to claimed levels of  60 -70% efficacy.

Never doubted my mate.

I'll chat about anything, what you and Milhouse were doing was trying to score points with a care home resident, you show what type of person you are, we all knew Milhouses form.

You raised it to make a point did you not?

He did, was waiting on being asked whether his person in care will be receiving the vaccine or not. As he didn't want it to be given without consent.

Anyway, I'm bored

You are also a selfish self centred individual whose only purpose on here is to try and make yourself feel superior and to hell with everyone and anyone. Bet your family and popping the champagne knowing you wont be over this Christmas.

Have a lovely xmas

You are a parasite of a human being, you can comment on any topic but end game is you think you are special, above everyone, your family will enjoy Christmas away from your bile, bet your the family member whom everyone hates.

Step away from the eggnog Seany! 

Bet that give you a semi, another one who couldn't communicate in the real world.

I'll chat about anything, what you and Milhouse were doing was trying to score points with a care home resident, you show what type of person you are, we all knew Milhouses form.

You raised it to make a point did you not?

He did, was waiting on being asked whether his person in care will be receiving the vaccine or not. As he didn't want it to be given without consent.

Anyway, I'm bored

You are also a selfish self centred individual whose only purpose on here is to try and make yourself feel superior and to hell with everyone and anyone. Bet your family and popping the champagne knowing you wont be over this Christmas.