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I agree with much of what Sean says but Horse is right; he had the opportunity to speak out when he was on the panel.


Gaelic Weekly
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Gavin 'Horse' Devlin has hit back at Sean Cavanagh's criticisms of Mickey Harte's style of management and selection policy and said the Moy man had ample opportunities to voice his concerns while captaining Tyrone.

Cavanagh, claimed that Harte was "autocratic" and some players's county careers suffered as a result of the manager's perceived defensive strategy.

Cavanagh said: "Ronan O'Neill, Darren McCurry, Kyle Coney who came through way back in 2009, 2010, Niall McKenna, there's been a flood of guys who probably have suffered because we haven't played with six attackers...

Devlin expressed his surprise at his former team-mate's analysis of Tyrone.

"We talk about what we do," said Devlin, who is assistant manager to Harte.
"I know Sean was the captain of our team for a number of years. I didn't see myself as a great player but I played in a number of successful teams. Any team that I was ever involved in always had great captains and anyone of those captains - whether it be Brian Dooher, Peter Canavan or Cormac McAnallen - they would have said something if they felt something wasn't right.
"They would come to Mickey and say: 'I think we can add value to what we're doing.'"
The 2003 All-Ireland winner said he never had any problem discussing team matters with Harte during his playing days with Tyrone.

"If I had been captain, I have no doubt that I could have met Mickey and said: 'Mickey, I think this is what we should do,' or 'What about trying this?'
"I wouldn't sit and keep my mouth shut. I've had a number of conversations with Sean and he never mentioned anything about styles of play or what we should and shouldn't do. If he thought something wasn't right, as captain, why didn't he come and have a conversation with us rather than saying it in an RTE studio?
"That's my opinion on it... The captains we've had in the past, I've no doubt would have come to Mickey and had their say.
"We've been very, very close in recent years and we didn't get over the line to win an All-Ireland. Maybe that's what was missing, that calibre of captaincy."

Former footballer of the year Stevie O'Neill was also recruited at the start of the season to work primarily with the Tyrone forwards.

Devlin added: "For the likes of Stevie O'Neill and those boys they've all come back and put their shoulder to the wheel. There are no big, brown envelopes in Tyrone.

"Stevie is in it for the love of the game and we're delighted to have him. We're more than comfortable the way the game is being played. Of course, you evolve and you add value to what you do – you're never the finished article.
"But I'm very comfortable with the way the game is being played and I know the set of players that we have and what they have to offer."

Cavanagh's no-holds-barred assessment of Tyrone also drew derision from his club-mate and former county star Philip Jordan.
"Myself and Sean are neighbours," wrote Jordan in his RTE GAA column.
"We played together for years and I'd have no problem telling him that I disagree 100 per cent with his comments.
"Sean is obviously thinking about his media career and he's learning from Joe Brolly and Pat Spillane about making the headlines."

"There are no big brown envelopes in Tyrone"...wow... fake news right their. Mickey Harte must be on the dole since he retired from teaching.

Gavin Devlin biting back at Sean Cavanagh in the Irish News today

"We've been very, very close in recent years and we didn't get over the line to win an All-Ireland. Maybe that's what was missing, that calibre of captaincy"

incredible. We have not been ,.'very very close' in recent years and the reason we've been anywhere near it IS Sean Cavanagh. Harte, Devlin, the whole lot should be chased to f**k.

Could this be described as a substantial amount of horseshit? I think it is.

Gavin Devlin biting back at Sean Cavanagh in the Irish News today

"We've been very, very close in recent years and we didn't get over the line to win an All-Ireland. Maybe that's what was missing, that calibre of captaincy"

Unbelievable, does gulder mouth Devlin really think people will buy this shit. Maybe since Tony Donnelly left, the calibre of assistant manager hasn't been there!

Great article in yesterdays Irish independent by Joe brolly.. You can access it on his Twitter feed.

4 days on from the game - is it out of the question to call for some balanced thinking? I think we are all disappointed with the result but, all things considered, the game was won by Monaghan in the last ten minutes and we entered this period without Colm Cavanagh, Tiernan McCann, Lee Brennan and Mark Bradley on the field, whereas Monaghan had they full compliment on at this stage (after bringing on McCarthy and Walshe). This was arguably the difference as a fit Colm Cav could have made the difference at midfield where we really struggled.

Also, we were level with Monaghan after 65 minutes despite injuries to the above players and with barely any of our other players playing to their full potential. I still feel that on any given day if we play well we are capable of beating any team in Ireland, possibly excluding the Dubs. So, going forward, with the right draw I feel we can reach the All Ireland final which would obviously be progress from last year and all anyone can ask for.

Finally, looking at positives coming out of the defeat, playing in the Qualifiers may give some of our less experienced men room to breathe and play their way into form in a less pressurised environment whilst getting experience at inter-county level. I'm thinking of the likes of Brennan, McClure, McShane, McKernan. With a few games under their belt i think these guys could gain momentum and really become key players as the year goes on.

With that in mind I would home we get an easy enough draw (a Division 3 team for example) in the first round and gradually face better teams as we progress. Although I think we could beat Mayo if we drew them.

Ten years of balanced thinking.. Round and round the garden...Fresh management, fresh voice, fresh ideas. The possibility of old squad players back in. Let's talk to RTE. Let's get everyone behind Tyrone again. You know the score, Harte out Now!

[Which players in our team would make any side in Ireland? Colm C, Harte, Sludden and if McAliskey keeps his form up from the weekend then him as well. After that, the others a pretty interchangeable.]

Which players in our team would make any side in Ireland? Colm C, Harte, Sludden and if McAliskey keeps his form up from the weekend then him as well. After that, the others a pretty interchangeable.

Was really impressed with Skeet. He took the fight to Monaghan albeit on his own. Showed leadership and that sprinkling of stardust. If he keeps that form up there's no doubt he can carry Tyrone to the latter stages of the AI.

I genuinely doubt if we have any players that start on the Dublin team to be honest - that's the benchmark.

I think Sludden could be worked into the Dublin team but that's about it

Surely Harte should be praised for getting so much out this group then if that's the case then. Definitely an air of jealousy among a few critics

What has he got out of them... beat very poor Ulster teams. At least Mayo and other teams have a cut when they get to Croke Park, wont beat the Dubs but Harte went to defend a defeat.

Mickey Harte is probably the most jealous person on the face of the earth.

[Which players in our team would make any side in Ireland? Colm C, Harte, Sludden and if McAliskey keeps his form up from the weekend then him as well. After that, the others a pretty interchangeable.]

Which players in our team would make any side in Ireland? Colm C, Harte, Sludden and if McAliskey keeps his form up from the weekend then him as well. After that, the others a pretty interchangeable.

Was really impressed with Skeet. He took the fight to Monaghan albeit on his own. Showed leadership and that sprinkling of stardust. If he keeps that form up there's no doubt he can carry Tyrone to the latter stages of the AI.

I genuinely doubt if we have any players that start on the Dublin team to be honest - that's the benchmark.

I think Sludden could be worked into the Dublin team but that's about it

Your speculating from the wrong angle. The question that should be asked is how would Dublin play if Mickey Harte was their manager and how would Tyrone play if Jim Gavin was in charge?

Big Sean is only worried about big Sean. Always was and always will be. He was out of line stirring it up the week before a big game. Monaghan were better. We do not have an outstanding forward at this moment in time that can hold his own and hit 5/6 points a game. We are average and have to work hard to win every game. Been that way for 3 or 4 years. You men moving deckchairs don't realise that. Finally to single peter harte out shows how bitter men who want Mickey out think. Wise up. Has been one of the only quality players tribe have. Watched him twice this year in the ACL and the abuse he got in both games was incredible as was the referring in both towards him. Would love to see what O'Rourke would do with current squad. But I will not slag the men who are still loyal to the cause. One of the ex tyrone players said after the game it reminded him of the defeat against down where the tyrone supporters destroyed them. He said he has never forgiven the slabbers who shouted abuse that day and patted his back a few months later.

Harte out Harte out Harte out Harte out.

Harte receives a lot more abuse off the ball than any other player on the team. He's harassed and bullied and gets no protection from referees or team mates. Referees need to make their helping officials more aware of these sledging matches.

I believe that affected Darren hughes and not beggan when talking about missing the international series due to scotstown championship campaign? although they were later flown out after the first test.

sledging is part of the game. The noughties team were the masters of it. It should be embraced. As for Peter getting protection from others. Would he protect them? Probably not. It wouldn't surprise me if other players resented Mickey s nephew. I would.

LOL, you resent him because you couldnt lace his boots?

I've been lacing by boots/shoes since I was seven. Pretty sure lacing his boots wouldn't be a problem. What a knob.

Harte receives a lot more abuse off the ball than any other player on the team. He's harassed and bullied and gets no protection from referees or team mates. Referees need to make their helping officials more aware of these sledging matches.

I believe that affected Darren hughes and not beggan when talking about missing the international series due to scotstown championship campaign? although they were later flown out after the first test.

sledging is part of the game. The noughties team were the masters of it. It should be embraced. As for Peter getting protection from others. Would he protect them? Probably not. It wouldn't surprise me if other players resented Mickey s nephew. I would.

I don't want to hear anymore crap about how great a player Peter Harte would be on the noughties team, the Dublin team, the Kerry team or any other bloody team. The only team that matters is the Tyrone seniors 2018. A player who in my eyes is not a team leader, a player who goes missing in action more often than not. Anyone who wants to understand why Mickey Harte plays his rigid system it is too purely accommodate his nephew who a don't think would fancy too much man to man  football as has been proven since last August. As the system has been found out, teams simply man mark him. Mickey s nephew is not up to it.  Never will be, and the red card on Sunday was a disgrace.

 

Sean lighthouse smile Cavanagh is only interested in one thing, himself,he's an absolute w**ker

mugsy is a pundit w**ker, Sean Cavanagh is a pundit w**ker. All them great Tyrone players are pundit wankers. How dare they!!

Have Tyrone ever lost a match where the opposition had better players or is it always down to the manager?

Someone above said if we'd switched managers last year then Tyrone would have won comfortably. It was a great win on Sunday and Monaghan were well set up but the Monaghan management still have a lot to prove. In recent years they have lost championship games to Down and Longford - games that there is very little chance Tyrone would have lost. They also scraped past Carlow.

When the teams met in the big games in Croke Park in recent years Harte won the tactical battle. I'm guessing the anti Harte brigade will put those wins down to the players and the loss on Sunday down to management. It's hard to be proved wrong when using logic like that. It'll be interesting to see how the two teams get on as the year goes on. It's how both teams finish the year that I will be judging it on. I am concerned though that all the negativity in the county (from premiership style supporters) will seep through to the players.

Do us a bloody favour you Muppet!

Anyone on this forum who knows any of the Tyrone players or is in their club I would urge also too get in their ear on a regular basis and tell them your wasting your time under that management and quit!

What an idiot.

No. What a great idea more like.

Anyone on this forum who knows any of the Tyrone players or is in their club I would urge also too get in their ear on a regular basis and tell them your wasting your time under that management and quit!