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#61
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 31, 2017, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: BallyroanAbu on January 31, 2017, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 09:22:07 AM
Quote from: Don Draper on January 31, 2017, 08:57:29 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on January 31, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How does it work with hurling and football? If a player plays in a competition and then transfers he is allowed finish out the competitions he started before the transfer. What if he played 1st round league and cship football with a club and then transferred. Could he play hurling league and championship with new club while also finishing league and cship football with previous club. Not sure who this would apply to but just curious if there is any rule against it?

He can play league and championship for two different clubs at the same time, as was the case with Ballyea forward Niall Deasy who played a Munster final one week in 2016 and a Dublin league final the following for his other club. He transferred to Dublin, and then back before playing championship, but had played league and was eligible to continue playing in that competition.

The answer is no, if you play championship of any description in either code you cannot play with a second club in championship that year.   However should you play league or cup competition with another club you can play championship in the same year as they are not seen as been the same competition. Thus you can play league or Kelly cup in Laois and then go on and transfer and play championship hurling or football in another county.  However if you go and play championship junior c hurling in April you cannot play any level of championship Hurling or Football with another team in that year.  I am 100% of this rule in Ireland and UK
so johnny plays intermwdiate for say athy for talks sake and plays the league and pre season and can transfer to crettyard for example to pkay laois championship? No rules broken?
#62
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 30, 2017, 09:53:59 PM
Quote from: independent on January 30, 2017, 09:05:29 PM
When do transfers stop? is there a closing date?

Thanks

End of January i think, and any time for inter county club as far as I know, but im not sure if the rule is as loose as that for inter county club transfers
#63
Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
January 29, 2017, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: town1980 on January 29, 2017, 05:07:09 PM
He nor committed properly and was never at that true standard.,, we need committed fellas n both codes
So nearly ten years with the county isnt commitmeny? And the true standard you speak of could be said of any Laois player but its not for lack of effort from those involved, it is working with what we have available
#64
Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
January 28, 2017, 07:46:16 PM
Quote from: HURLING1 on January 28, 2017, 07:26:55 PM
Darren Maher retired???

Just seen that on facebook, saying his heart wasnt in it and he is one of the oldest players on the panel, he was a great servant and ballacolla will be strong this year with himself amd willie there full time
#65
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: Don Draper on January 28, 2017, 05:27:58 PM
Quote from: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 03:35:19 PM
Quote from: HURLING1 on January 28, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
I totally agree, the way forward for rural clubs is to amalgamate and until lads get that into their head this trend will continue at a fast rate
The only way for SOME Clubs who are struggling. Please don't try lump all Clubs in with the ones who have 5 lads out Training. There's lads out there and here who'd have had the likes of Rosenallis and Killeshin lumped into amalgamations some 10 years ago.

Yes there are exceptions obviously, Rosenallis are a fine example of a club rebuilt, especially the state it was in after the collapse of tinnahinch
#66
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 05:13:14 PM
Quote from: BlueAlways on January 28, 2017, 04:33:35 PM
Correct hurlingmad, amalgamation is the way forward not this whole "Gaels" scenario which is absolutely ridiculous and will not help develop hurling in the county in any way. Amalgamating the whole way from juvenile to senior (or whatever grade) can help young lads in the juvenile sides identify with the new club set up and help them to play hurling at a higher level than might ever have been possible with their own club, surely this can only be good. Realistically though there will always be people in those clubs who will object to it , you just have to hope that their are enough forward thinking people involved to be able to sit down with each other and come up with a solution that suits both clubs or whatever no. of clubs are involved.
I mean these gaels type amalgamations are usually only used in other counties to accomadate Hurlers to senior football and vice versa
#67
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 03:35:19 PM
Quote from: HURLING1 on January 28, 2017, 12:06:58 PM
Kyle have lost most of their best players through out the years as previous posters have said 4 or 5 at training.  No perfect answer but Kyle should have been proactive in fighting for some other solution rather than expanding all their energy fighting transfers.
I totally agree, the way forward for rural clubs is to amalgamate and until lads get that into their head this trend will continue at a fast rate
#68
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 11:10:18 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 28, 2017, 10:48:08 AM
Quote from: hurlingmad on January 28, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 28, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best

Well in fairness if the players wanted it that bad,they didn't put in the groundwork to get it over the line,based on what your saying.
Yes exactly 100%
the attitude of someone else will do it is what is holdig back small clubs and they play the victim too often, B/K didnt poach Quinlan, Camross didnt Poach Gilmartin, they simply wanted to push themselves among their peers because nobody turns up training at their home club
#69
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 10:28:48 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on January 28, 2017, 10:06:00 AM
I wonder what are the barriers in place to stop Kyle throwing in their lit with Knock and going to hurling in the mid in Tipp?
Kyle players want it as do Knock and last year the mid tipp board agreed that they could use kyle field for home games but kyle chiefs  went to meetings and very few players didnt turn up and the vote didnt go in favor because of the experts that know best
#70
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 28, 2017, 09:33:45 AM
Quote from: TP Ashe on January 28, 2017, 01:00:40 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on January 27, 2017, 04:08:07 PM
Ben Conroy to Portlaoise was a rumour in work yesterday!

Cheddar tried. No luck.

Feel bad for Kyle. They fought the fight for many years for players to be allowed stay with their home club and hurl senior as part of a group team...and now Borris/Kilcotton have no interest in risking a shot at a Leinster Championship to accomodate them so they're still fecked. Hard to see a future for them in Laois....

Quinlan's transfer will go through. Everyone knows it.
He'll only improve their Senior A team.
They ALWAYS lose these battles do Kyle but when you get 4-5 lads turning up to training for Junior, what is there to keep an ambitious hurler, as for Conroy, I would question why he would want to leave Slieve Bloom as they are now a full intermediate outfit with plenty of young hurlers, Brendan Cummins, Shane McGrath, Nicky English are just some Tipp names I can think of that never played senior club hurling
#71
Laois / Re: Club transfers
January 27, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: SCFC on January 21, 2017, 06:36:40 PM
Any internal club transfers rumoured yet?
Kilcotton man tells me this week that Conor Quinlan has put in a late transfer from ballaghmore and it's not expected to go down well
#72
Laois / Re: Club Hurling Managers 2017
January 25, 2017, 06:45:42 PM
Quote from: BlueAlways on January 25, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
Ogie, your comment above that Castletown "Have parted company with Paul Cuddy" is misleading and disrespectful to a man who has given his all for club and county over the last 20 years or more, hopefully it was unintentional. The facts are that Paul took the decision himself to not put himself forward for re-appointment as Castletown manager for 2017. What the man achieved in leading Castletown to a Senior league final (albeit beaten by a superior Rathdowney team on the day) and a Senior A Championship win in 2016 was a brilliant achievement especially considering the mess he inherited when taking over in 2015 after the acrimonious split with Slieve Bloom. He has returned his beloved club to the Senior ranks of Laois Hurling in a very healthy state (approx. half of the side that finished Championship final in 2016 were under 21 years of age)  and his hope as is mine is that the club will continue to grow and prosper over the next few years and beyond. He has more than earned the right to make whatever decision suits him and his family best and rest assured it was done with integrity and professionalism which are the hallmarks of the man.
He is a great hurling brain and will be of benefit to any project he uptakes should he stay involved, great servant to Laois for years
#73
Laois / Re: Rule Changes
January 22, 2017, 08:04:03 PM
Quote from: Dave like the tv channel on January 21, 2017, 02:07:04 PM
Scores from fat lads should count for double. Coz it means more to them, just like in scoring in a nightclub.....might not always be pretty, but carries more weight.
this
#74
Laois / Re: Laois 2017 - NHL and Leinster SHC
January 22, 2017, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: TP Ashe on January 22, 2017, 05:24:55 PM
Decent workout from Laois today.

I know Galway were short a few, more than we were to be fair but if we supplement what we have with the likes of Cha, Picky, Lennon and Palmer then we might have cause for some optimism.

Fleming made three stunning saves and must surely hold the starting jersey as things stand.
Leigh Bergin is progressing well at full-back.
Healy was solid but for a really unfortunate error for their goal.
Personally, I'd like Purcell back in midified but he's a great option at centre-back.
Conroy is playing very well.
King, Foyle and Dunphy look sharp and dangerous even though things didn't quite fall for them today.
Lyons, Downey and Corby never stop working and look good additions to the panel.

The Carlow IT lads should give things a boost with the league opener now very much on the horizon.
Best iv ever seen Fleming hurl, was simply excellent today along with lyons who is very good to catch and win balls, Conroy was lively all day and for january it was a decent game of hurling
#75
Laois / Re: Gaels amalgamations
January 19, 2017, 09:35:11 PM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on January 19, 2017, 08:11:32 PM
Do other clubs get any say in these amalgamations?

Im not so sure about Laois but in 2004 Golden/Anacarthy and kilfeacle amalgamated in Tipperary and reached a county final only to be narrowly defeated by Toomevara and just about every team they beat along the way objected to them playing as a unit and they ceased to exist as a combo as they were dubbed. If this was a result of objections, I dont know but clubs can object with good reason from what iv been told over the years