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Can any of the clonoe posters tell me if stevie mcdoll$r got his money upfront from clonoe or is he still taking small group sessions to get some cash?

[Killyclogher]

Not much talk of the fixtures given the outrage at how long it took for them to be released.  Few interesting first round fixtures in D1;

Round 1      
Killyclogher   v   Dromore
Ardboe   v   Dungannon
Loughmacrory   v   Pomeroy
Donaghmore   v   Omagh
An Charraig Mhor   v   Galbally
Errigal Ciaran   v   Clonoe
Coalisland   v   Derrylaughan
Moy   v   Trillick

Killyclogher   v   Dromore
Ardboe   v   Dungannon
Loughmacrory   v   Pomeroy
Donaghmore   v   Omagh
An Charraig Mhor   v   Galbally
Errigal Ciaran   v   Clonoe
Coalisland   v   Derrylaughan
Moy   v   Trillick

Predictions for the opener

the Trillick hater returns, I saw someone commenting on this before and you denied your anti Trillick, so I had a look at some of your previous comments, let me run you through them:

1.You tipped Dromore to beat them and said Trillick wudnt be close to them..
2.Errigal bate them in the league and you said its a sign of thing to come if they meet again in the championship
3.Said to put money on clonoe to beat them in quarters and wud be a massive upset if trillick win..
4. said to lump money on fianna come semi final stage as they where too fast and too strong for Trillick..
5. said Trillick filled with hot air..
6. said Trillick is overrated and no one is far off them..
7. Immediately tipped Galbally to beat them..
8. Tipping Moy to beat them 1st league game..

Maybe tip 7 & 8 cud turn out to be right but your previous history doesn't bide too well.

I wish you all the best against Omagh this year young friend..

Wow some researching back through the pages to write that up 

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

Awful touchy for what was a bit of innocent pre season chatter about a Championship game that won't be played for months. Maybe it's something that is being mentioned round Coalisland, this is the last chance....and a few of the mentioned players have said as much....

The only thing I've heard being mentioned is how happy stevy mcdollar will be no matter what happens during the game  because he'll still get his big bag of money down the road with him.

I'm not from Clonoe Local Expert, it's none of my business what the Rahillys get up to.....

I'll revise my prediction that has upset you so much. I reckon the first game will be a draw now. Just to keep the peace.

You might be giving away who you are getting upset about a few certain players I had mentioned there though....

You seem to speak about them alot for someone that isn't a fan and claims they're none of your business?

I said I fancied Clonoe to beat Coalisland in a bit of craic prediction. You are more than welcome to come looking me in 8 months about being wrong, there's a 1 in 2 chance I am. I didn't tell you to go to Paddy Power and throw over the savings and thank me later. I don't think that makes me anti coalisland surely? I think if you search all my posts in here I've been fair enough....can you say the same?

You've taken the hump about me saying Coalisland are an ageing team for whatever reason. That was a fair enough comment for someone to make, it wasn't malicious or slanderous in any way.

When did I say you were anti coalisland? I never acknowledged your prediction on who would win. I only pointed out your point on being an aging team didn't make sense when the majority are u25.

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

Awful touchy for what was a bit of innocent pre season chatter about a Championship game that won't be played for months. Maybe it's something that is being mentioned round Coalisland, this is the last chance....and a few of the mentioned players have said as much....

The only thing I've heard being mentioned is how happy stevy mcdollar will be no matter what happens during the game  because he'll still get his big bag of money down the road with him.

I'm not from Clonoe Local Expert, it's none of my business what the Rahillys get up to.....

I'll revise my prediction that has upset you so much. I reckon the first game will be a draw now. Just to keep the peace.

You might be giving away who you are getting upset about a few certain players I had mentioned there though....

You seem to speak about them alot for someone that isn't a fan and claims they're none of your business?

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

Awful touchy for what was a bit of innocent pre season chatter about a Championship game that won't be played for months. Maybe it's something that is being mentioned round Coalisland, this is the last chance....and a few of the mentioned players have said as much....

The only thing I've heard being mentioned is how happy stevy mcdollar will be no matter what happens during the game  because he'll still get his big bag of money down the road with him.

Local Expert any word on this Fianna 3rds team? How are you shaping up? You'll take a game yourself maybe.

As young martin skeff said at the draw last week it's just going to be a bit of fun for the lads.  Bit of football so will see how it goes.  Unfortunately our merry crew are a bit old for that carry on.  Hope it goes well but when the league shuts down for 6 months over the summer might be hard to keep them interested.

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

[Hard to single out bad performances there but Peter Harte's body language was terrible, looked like he didn't want to know]

Tyrone missed far too many chances early on - the Cavanagh goal chance and must have hit 4 or 5 off the post.. stat came up around the 30min mark, Galway 9/12 scores, Tyrone 4/13, summed it up. Tyrone gave the ball away so cheaply at times whereas Galway didn't.
First red card very harsh, rarely see them given.
McShane injury is an awful blow if as bad as it looks.
Was actually only 3 points in it 0-14 to 0-11 with about 20 minutes left.. Galway got the penalty (was Rafferty marking Comer - strange every attack - Tyrone had threw in the towel (not a good sign) and kept giving away dreadful passes in attack any time we did have it.
Hard to single out bad performances there but Peter Harte's body language was terrible, looked like he didn't want to know

He is the prime example of the many players who need a new man at the helm.  Familiarity breeds contempt and I think he and others would benefit from being forced out of their comfort zone that comes with uncle Micky being there forever

Harte's worst ever defeat as manager is it?

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

I'll have a go at this then for a bit of value, lets see who times proves correct.


Clonoe v Coalisland

I'll have a go with the Rahillys here, Coalisland are an ageing team at this stage and O'Hagan probably won't be the man to finish off players that have served him well in the past. I think Clonoe will benefit massively from McAliskey with the club all year and the McDonnell factor might bring a bite of badness back to Clonoe. Clonoe gave Trillick a good run of it last year but ultimately just didn't have enough, they'll quietly fancy themselves to chin Coalisland. Tie of the round.

Moy v Derrylaughan

Great tie for both teams who I reckon will be struggling badly in the league by the time this game comes around. This one could go eitherway, I'd stick my head on the block for Derrylaughan as any kind of injury to either of the Cavanaghs will finish off the Moy hopes. Won't be surprised if this one ends in the annual brawl that the first round of the Championship usually brings.

Galbally v Trillick

Trillick are Trillick, do the basics so well - don't make many mistakes and have about 4/5 players all capable of scoring their quota. They'll be favourites for this and the Championship so I can't really see past them myself. But Galbally will not be one bit worried about playing them, in a strange way this could be the best tie they could have got. I fancy Galbally to be rightly up in the league come this one being played - I think Trillick will win this by experience but don't think it will be the walkover some might predict.

Killyclogher v Carrickmore

What do Carrickmore have left in the tank? Still playing a right few of the older players, Gormley probably kept them in the Championship v Edendork last year. This could be the year it all catches up with them. Killyclogher are a very good senior side. I would imagine they'll win this one but Carrickmore won't give them anything on the plate that can be certain.

Loughmacrory v Dungannon

Has to be Dungannon, learned hard lessons v Omagh last year. Recruitment of a former Tyrone U20 player. now and the pressure will be on with this draw to go on a bit of a run. Loughmacrory have a lot of very good young players - this could be one of the games of the first round. The Lough will have no fear of Dungannon but Dungannon now have that years experience. Lough might be going balls out in first 8/9 league games to get the points and could be worn down by that stage depending on how Senior football treats them on their return.

Ardboe v Donaghmore

Fancy Donaghmore to struggle in the league. They've always been comfortable without setting the world alight in Senior. Do they have anything about them or ambition? This draw gives them a big chance to take on a good team and make a statement. I think Ardboe will be too cute and probably might just resort to bullying Donaghmore to get the job done.

Errigal Ciaran v Pomeroy

The disaster draw for Pomeroy. With all their county men fit and up to speed they'll give it a good rattle - they'll fancy themselves but Senior will be tough for them this year. Depends how they hold up with injury and how they are doing in the league but Errigal go into this one as heavy favourites and probably the tie you'll put the house on right now if forced to pick a winner.

Omagh v Dromore

Dromore have a huge point to prove to all of Tyrone after last year. That will be ringing in their ears at every training session from now to this tie. I can imagine exactly what they are being told up in Gardrum every night. What happened them last year won't be allowed to happen again. Omagh are a very good team though, this will be a great game. I will call this one a draw with Omagh to go on in the replay for a bit of variety. Both teams need to win this one as their recent Championship records haven't been great and should be one of the ties of the opening round too.

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

Coalisland going with a thirds team the year then

Local expert is player manager

Too old for that carry on.  However definitely looking forward to see how you "county champions" get on!

Are Errigal ciaran reserves in division 3 and are they allowed promotion.

Not Errigal reserves (they play in Div 1 reserve league) , Errigal 3rds play in Div 3 and as far as I know they can win promotion. Errigal 3rds reserves play in the Div 3 reserve league so in effect they have 4 adult teams fielding every season - not bad going in fairness.

There's 3 clubs in our parish so would be the very least expected from that parish no?

Did one of der fuhrer's ballygawley disciples drop the ball over his head into the net tonight?

Most of Ireland denigrates Tyrone and the players as individuals severely over the last 20 years or so. Should we not be trying to support players as much as possible, and f**k the rest? No one likes us, we don't care etc. Support helps I would've thought.

The cub made an error. It happens.

unfortunately alot of Tyrone people are fed up with what goes on in the county at the minute. You can't see that?

Would you not be safer going and finding a new hobby that you enjoyed instead of whinging on here about Harte and the county team day after day?

Tyrone scored 3-18 last night and played some lovely football, anyone who actually follows the team will have enjoyed the game.

Similarly it's ridiculous coming on picking on lads because of their clubs. Coalisland men have made plenty of mistakes in Tyrone jerseys too.

Young McKernan has made enough mistakes in a Tyrone jersey in his short career so far but still remains a regular. It might not suit his agenda though.

This is a discussion board for people to voice their opinions or should we never question any players selection or ability?
 
Personally I don't think he's good enough.... a calamitous error last night after rolling out the red carpet for donegals goal last year.

Mckernan has played 2 years for Tyrone one of which he was nominated for young player of the year.  Looking alright to me!

McKernan has a tendency to get drawn towards the ball which has already cost us numerous goals in Championship football, sadly he keeps repeating these mistakes.

Last year was McDonnell's first year getting some regular football in the Championship and League, he made some mistakes, he also had some decent displays - just like McKernan.

Speaking of Donegal last year, McKernan's man helped himself to 1-03 from play in that game.

When he drops one through his hands into the back of the onion bag come back to me.

Will you be leading the march for him to be ran off the county squad then?

Yea we are marching on garvaghey next week you coming?

Did one of der fuhrer's ballygawley disciples drop the ball over his head into the net tonight?

Most of Ireland denigrates Tyrone and the players as individuals severely over the last 20 years or so. Should we not be trying to support players as much as possible, and f**k the rest? No one likes us, we don't care etc. Support helps I would've thought.

The cub made an error. It happens.

unfortunately alot of Tyrone people are fed up with what goes on in the county at the minute. You can't see that?

Would you not be safer going and finding a new hobby that you enjoyed instead of whinging on here about Harte and the county team day after day?

Tyrone scored 3-18 last night and played some lovely football, anyone who actually follows the team will have enjoyed the game.

Similarly it's ridiculous coming on picking on lads because of their clubs. Coalisland men have made plenty of mistakes in Tyrone jerseys too.

Young McKernan has made enough mistakes in a Tyrone jersey in his short career so far but still remains a regular. It might not suit his agenda though.

This is a discussion board for people to voice their opinions or should we never question any players selection or ability?
 
Personally I don't think he's good enough.... a calamitous error last night after rolling out the red carpet for donegals goal last year.

Mckernan has played 2 years for Tyrone one of which he was nominated for young player of the year.  Looking alright to me!

McKernan has a tendency to get drawn towards the ball which has already cost us numerous goals in Championship football, sadly he keeps repeating these mistakes.

Last year was McDonnell's first year getting some regular football in the Championship and League, he made some mistakes, he also had some decent displays - just like McKernan.

Speaking of Donegal last year, McKernan's man helped himself to 1-03 from play in that game.

When he drops one through his hands into the back of the onion bag come back to me.