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lol I really am not. I'm just calling it as I see it. There is pressure on both teams now.  Last week all the pressure was on Cargin, with some on Dunloy to get a historic double.  Now the situation has altered dramatically with Dunloy playing (as I see it) to save their season.  The pressure on Cargin as favourites remains the same as last week.

Well a final and Semi final they were supposed to cruise, the loss of the 5-in-a-row chance and with the bigger picture of an All Ireland assault in the bin now.  They are an extremely well run club but the possibility of empty handed Senior teams after so much promise just a week ago makes nervous reading

That defeat to Loughgeil will either make or break Dunloy. They're now under pressure to salvage something from their season which is in serious danger of becoming a damp squib.

What are the odds for a Dunloy double? 

If posters were to be believed they dispatched the top side in the county in the seni final. A bit of history awaits them if they can do what st johns and St galls failed to do. Not every year a chance to make history is offered

Perhaps last night can rid us of the lazy excuses of Dual club vs Single code.  If you are good enough then you'll compete at both.

Then why does it not happen more often?

Think we were the last club to reach both finals. It takes a special group of players to come through for that to happen

It's a daft post, hanging your coat on that one spike.

If we take the last few years Cargin totally on top, single code, if you can't see that then you're either being a dick or not as clever as I had thought you were

Your problem was you couldn't transfer in as much hurlers as you could footballers

Perhaps last night can rid us of the lazy excuses of Dual club vs Single code.  If you are good enough then you'll compete at both.

BS i certainly would not want to portray Pat as such.  By all accounts he is a level headed fellow with his feet firmly on the ground.    He can only do what he feels is best for his own development which at this moment appears to be in Cargin rather than with Antrim.

Isn't supposed to be a condescending post. We are all allowed to have opinions and some will value the tailteann cup more than others which they are entitled to do

Great comeback and win. McCann is some man for a goal. Class

Disappointed Shivers walked away. Hopefully he can work on pace and strength and fitness and come back better conditioned for it next year because his talent is obvious but he's still young

With that analysis it doesn't sound like your that disappointed 😂

I am.

I want Antrim to be successful and he is obviously one of our most talented players

He's still young and hopefully will fulfil his potential.  We are all on the same side here....he 100percent needs to work of his conditioning,  speed , sharpness and fitness and should be pushed by all to do so, for the good of the County

Pat was used to playing MacRory Cup football not McLarnon Cup. Could be he sees more value heading back to his club to do the hard work than playing County friendlies

i think its a bit more balanced this year than the last couple.  suspect the winners of groups 1 and 4 would fancy their chances of making the semi finals but at this stage no one knows what St Brigids will turn up.  The league STB or the +Downey championship STB.  maybe there will no difference

Having draw with full round of football fixtures on was a strange one. Heard from source at meeting MC namee cup has been damaged by the holders . How many teams have held the cup over the years. Is this a first where it has been deliberately defaced.

Going out on a limb here and say you've never got your hands on the McNamee before? looks well from a distance but is in need of some bodywork.

Management have a month now to see who's doing what on the training ground and in club games. I'm sure Andy is first to know a shake up is needed, he will have been disappointed himself with the effort on Saturday past.

If I was AME I would make it clear that only those 100% up for Tailtean Cup and next years NFL squad should commit to a month of hard training. Bring in half a dozen newbies and a squad of 40, and see who wants it the most, in the training and in the in house matches. Reputations should count for diddly squat, so too should be what club you come from, or even what age you are. Should Marc Jordan at almost 30 stand aside because a good 19/20 year old has suddenly appeared?  No, if the younger ones are good enough for now then let them show it.

If any of the unavailables previously documented want to put their hand up for consideration then I can't see Andy chasing any of them, but they would need to be going there in good shape, ready to hit the ground.

It's only one opinion NSS but at the end of that I'd expect CJ, RMQ, SON and possibly CD to be well in the mix.Also Dermot Adam  & Jamie would expect yo be in contention - but I'd make it the hardest training yet and see who's standing out and wants it the most. Anybody dosent fancy it, close the door on the way out.

That sounds like a tweak to my earlier recommendation about Corrigan BS 

Sure it looks like you wouldn't change much anyway.  Obviously happy with Saturdays team.  If you're happy with that then thats fine, entitled to your opinion of course. 

If you scroll back a few pages you will find find much hearty positivity and names from the u20 team that played against Donegal.  Pop back a page to your own post and you will find some benchwarmers that had little input into Saturday's dross.  For that little sprinkle of grey haired experience you could again refer to your own post about older players.

Posters got their knuckles wrapped for being personal about the players so there are some suggestions, many by your own hand.  Some can be very negative on here but as a beacon of upbeat positivity I would say we are in the very lucky position of being a county able to field a full team of alternative players that would improve on Saturdays showing.

[Right, again... what does this team look like? What team would you field Spike?[/quote]]

Right, again... what does this team look like? What team would you field Spike?
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To avoid getting personal, i would call up the full Creggan, Cargin, Aghagallon, Portglenone, St Johns and Lamh Dhearg squads to Corrigan and have them stand around the perimeter of the pitch.

I would then leave 15 jerseys in the centre of the pitch. 

On the whistle I would blow for the Battle Royale and let it commence. I would then go and stand at the bar in the St Johns Clubhouse and order a pint. The men coming back to the bar with a jersey to me start in the Tailteann Cup.

Thats how high a stock I take from Antrim's performance in it. 

I see your point BS but not one person in Antrim will be in uproar at Tailteann Cup failure. The same as not one person in Creggan will shed a tear at not winning the O'Cahon Cup.   

Of course lets give it a go now that we are in it.

[but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulster championship]

Yes Saturday was poor, I could list a few things that might have made it better, but not judging it as we rarely show up in Ulster championship, for any manager.

I think this is part of the problem BS, we are giving Antrim players an excuse by saying we will look at them properly in a 2nd rate competition.     We all have our opinions on the team quality and have we progressed at all but that Antrim team looked like they believed they shouldn't have been on the same pitch as Armagh. They were already beaten before they started and had the Tailteann Cup in their heads.  For this to be the most physically big Antrim team in years, they were like lambs out there.  Wasn't much blood and thunder about them.  We can only be judged on the Ulster Championship, and IMO the Tailteann is an unwelcome excuse that has became available. 

The knives aren't out for Andy, people are naturally disappointed in that showing on Saturday, and yes it was that bad but seeing as we are now stuck in the Tailteann, can we look at bringing forward the young guns and play a team with all our potential talents included? 

I wont be judging Andy on the Tailteann just as I wouldn't be judging Creggan on how they do in the O'Cahon Cup.  He has nothing to lose in my eyes so he is as well getting those hopefuls onto a pitch and seeing how they fare out.