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Hardly madness think it's the best possible move for barrow house if the three clubs eventually do join up,I presume they will be weak enough at underage level but it's a start.Think ballylinan will suffer but maybe they have enough numbers and wanted to go by themselves, Joseph's get what they deserve...

Whole sale madness at its best. B/house will be swallowed up by the Arles group, that will cause splits( already surfacing with certain players looking and wanting  to join St Josephs.) and at the end only St Josephs benefit. The combination helped B/house enormously as seen by their recent success....the last combination between Kileen and themselves almost destroyed the club. Arles should be as was in the original Arles club. One team, one club, and one colour (Maroon) with a parish juvenile combination under the old umbrella of St Michaels

It seems Barrowhouse joining the Arles' has annoyed you greatly . If they didn't start pursuing their players then more than likely the amalgamation would have remained. Barrowhouse like Kyle, Ballypickas etc are now having to fight harder and harder for their existence. They more than likely felt under threat that Josephs would pick their talented youth. Unlike other clubs the house never had much of a history of outward transfers the Kingstons being a notable exception. This would suggest a loyalty and love of their club. But they were definitely not born and bred Barrowhouse men. The amalgamation with the Arles makes sense . 3 clubs with similar playing pools. Geographically tight  and all with the same motive to develop every single juvenile player. Josephs in reality never needed Barrowhouse to compete but they did need them to win. I'd imagine countless youngsters in the Arles' and Barrowhouse have been lost to game because they weren't getting the game time necessary and therefore unable to develop. Don't be annoyed monumental road. You may not win as much as you did but at least countless more Josephs youngsters will get games now that the Barrowhouse lads are gone .

The previous amalgamation with Killeen nearly destroyed the club. This is news to me. Care to enlighten us?

I see that Arles/Killeen, Arles /Kilcruise and Barrowhouse have joined forces at underage level up to under 21. A very interesting development.

Its the first step in the re-establishment of the old Arles Club(about time) but I cannot see how they will field teams in all age groups. Maybe up to u14 but where will they get their minor and u21 players from. I also hear that an objection from the Ballylinan/Gleanmore set up is on the cards as this was one of the conditions set out by Croke Park during the Arles split to ensure under age players in the parish were catered for. I also hear that some B/house players do not want to play with this new set up and want to play with St Josephs.  A very very interesting time ahead I think.

Interesting times ahead . Probably puts the death nail in the 3 in a row attempt for Joes under 21s. I heard this was player driven. It's mad how you often get contradictory reports. Joes definitely have enough to compete at a reasonable level but I'm unsure about Ballylinan.

I see that Arles/Killeen, Arles /Kilcruise and Barrowhouse have joined forces at underage level up to under 21. A very interesting development.

Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Deadline has been extended until March apparently

Daily updates from Leinster council
http://www.leinstergaa.ie/_fileupload/Transfer%20Schedule%202010-2017.pdf

Do they publish internal transfers on these sites? Don't think I've seen one ever in them spreadsheets online.

No these are just inter county (club) transfers confined to Leinster while gaa.ie usually lists transfers from clubs in different provinces, America, Australasia, Asia etc. Laois gaa usually list internal transfers on their website/local media after the date has passed. I believe it is Tuesday . Could be totally wrong in this. Always have to question players attitudes when they are looking for internal transfers.

The Kileen gaels is almost agreed although it may cause one or two defections from B/House.

Is there really any need for Barrowhouse to exist on their own anyway.

This transfer of a player from B/House to St Josephs will not happen or may not even reach the request stage. For a start the player does not live in the St Josephs catchment area (Ballyadams Parish). I believe he actually lives in the catchment area of Kileen,Ballylinan or Arles and plays with B House because of long held family connections.I also believe the transfer is being persued by the player himself and not by the St Josephs club.
The only way i could see it happening is because of previous precedent(s). i.e the Kingstons transfers to Kileen and other transfers from Park/Rath to stradbally. I do know that the transfers of the Kingstons was objected to and placed on the record (reasons for the transfers being allowed set a precedent).The main reason for those transfers going through was proof of place of resident. Interesting times ahead fro the CCC

Factually incorrect. The player lives in the Athy parish and therefore in the Barrowhouse catchment area.

Forgive me on that one so but i thought i knew the geography of the  area and i thought the residence was in the Arles parish. Here is a good one though, at least 4 or 5 present Barrowhouse players actually live the the parish of Ballyadams but for historical reasons St Josephs never claim them....

Definitely not in the Arles Parish. Close but not in it. I believe Barrowhouse had to draw up their catchment area many years ago  due to them being mostly a corner of the parish of Athy with a small portion being in the Ballyadams parish. As a result this portion of the Ballyadams parish falls into Barrowhouse's catchment area. It's a pity that Josephs wouldn't extend the policy you have been talking about and for historical reasons not entertain the transfer.

This transfer of a player from B/House to St Josephs will not happen or may not even reach the request stage. For a start the player does not live in the St Josephs catchment area (Ballyadams Parish). I believe he actually lives in the catchment area of Kileen,Ballylinan or Arles and plays with B House because of long held family connections.I also believe the transfer is being persued by the player himself and not by the St Josephs club.
The only way i could see it happening is because of previous precedent(s). i.e the Kingstons transfers to Kileen and other transfers from Park/Rath to stradbally. I do know that the transfers of the Kingstons was objected to and placed on the record (reasons for the transfers being allowed set a precedent).The main reason for those transfers going through was proof of place of resident. Interesting times ahead fro the CCC

Factually incorrect. The player lives in the Athy parish and therefore in the Barrowhouse catchment area.

A draft based on an existing relationship. Parish or underage amalgamation being two examples. Not just a draft to the highest bidder. As mentioned above, it appears as if Barrowhouse are about to lose their biggest asset - again. We have to find ways of keeping lads in their home club, but at the same time giving them access to Senior football/hurling. If the draft is underpinned by an existing relationship, then we can avoid unnecessary and damaging transfers.

I think we need to look beyond amalgamations that won't last pissing time. They assume, wrongly in my opinion, that all players in both clubs will be in favour of joining up. This should be about an individual's decision to play or not play Senior, and where he wants to, we need to facilitate that as best we can

If this transfer does go through the Josephs / Barrowhouse underage  partnership could be resigned to to the history books. I think the stumbling block for the gaels/draft situation is the barring from Leinster championship if a team can win a championship. Josephs would believe (rightly or wrongly) that they would be at least on a par with stradbally and could therefore win a championship and do well in Leinster.  By taking on one possibly more from Barrowhouse they jeopardise this.

Timahoe and the Heath seems strange to me,the Heath won the league this year and because of a near relegation experience they now decide they need to join.While joes voted down joining up with barrow house it looks like they are going to poach their best player which will surely destroy this small club.To me all these amalgamations are a quick fix with no long term benefit ,maybe clubs should follow the stradbally mould and just put in a big effort next year

it's a crazy system which tells a lad at 21 that he must walk away from the set up he grew up playing in and go back to his Junior/Intermediate club. There may not be anywhere near the level of training that he knew at underage and so he loses out. Maybe the answer to all this is a draft system for players outside of Senior grade. It would probably work easier than amalgamating clubs for short periods of time

So if you're a Senior club there should be draft system of best non senior players ?
This is a ridiculous idea. Clubs aren't clubs anymore if this is the case. I've said it many times but senior clubs should not be allowed form a gaels team. However if a group of intermediate/Junior clubs got together preferably in the same region. Examples in other counties would be South Kerry, West Kerry , Kenmare district etc. Clubs who are Senior on merit shouldn't need "gaels" players.  It is a farce in my opinion. However if the county board was truly bothered by  the plight of the "intermediate/junior" footballer then they would be setting up regional teams . I'd suggest two (seeing as we are a small county). Set up district boards to run these teams , possibly run district competitions as well. Sadly I know the county board will not do this but one can dream. The benefits I believe will vastly outweigh the initial struggle to get it off the ground.

No go for Josephs Barrowhouse. Josephs voted it down again. It appears to be an aggressive environment out there at the moment and standing still could probably mean being left behind.

Opens the door for Kileen/Barrowhouse Gaels. Mind you quite a few in Barrowhouse would prefer tha as some of them are very much against the Josephs Gaels. I can also understand Josephs view point as they are doing massive work with their juveiles and in reality the Gaels proposal was to accomodate one player......it seems some Barrowhouse players would rather the Kileen option

Have they short memories in Barrowhouse?

I heard the Kingstons are going back to Barrowhpise and that Josephs are to to have a gaels team with the Barrowhouse lads involved.

Park won the junior Leinster in 06

Time for Kilcavan to rebuild. Probably time for a lot of their gallant servants to call it a day. They have given everything. A couple of years in Junior A could do no harm as long as they bed in younger players.

Graigues manager is Colm Moran
From Athy