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[as opposed to kicking the ball over the bar a talent you are born with.]

I agree Butch, he was, but where would he enjoy that sort of freedom outside of Laois? This is a big part of problem. Work without the ball and tackling. I have no preference for a coach, but I think we need Mick Dempsey to come and teach us some things. Our defending is pathetic

We've had this discussion more than once HF and the good news is tackling and good defending can actually be thought as opposed to kicking the ball over the bar a talent you are born with.

I like your suggestion to bring in a coach for this purpose, that would improve things but hard and unglamorous work required for this is not part of our DNA and that needs to change.
In short whether we like it or not the "fancy dan"culture must come to an end.

Are you joking here? If not u should be banned from ever commenting on football again. Not just on the internet either, in your local pub, at the gaa field, on public transport and anywhere gaa is discussed. 

Thats pretty aggressive language you're using there, perhaps you might explain yourself.

We beat Armagh 3 times last year - Twice in the championship and once in the league. And now here they are a year later looking good for their quarter final appearance after a great performance VS a Kildare team who annihilated us earlier this year.

True..... but we wouldn't want to lose sight of the fact that we are a team in decline in both age and in terms of new talent coming through. Armagh on the other hand have a lot of young players coming through and they have Jamie Clarke back.

I agree Butch, he was, but where would he enjoy that sort of freedom outside of Laois? This is a big part of problem. Work without the ball and tackling. I have no preference for a coach, but I think we need Mick Dempsey to come and teach us some things. Our defending is pathetic

We've had this discussion more than once HF and the good news is tackling and good defending can actually be thought as opposed to kicking the ball over the bar a talent you are born with.

I like your suggestion to bring in a coach for this purpose, that would improve things but hard and unglamorous work required for this is not part of our DNA and that needs to change.
In short whether we like it or not the "fancy dan"culture must come to an end.

I still think we're still producing some nice raw footballers in Laois at underage. The difference is, the game has changed. "Nice" footballers like we have wont cut it anymore. They'll have to be harnessed like Kildare or Dublin youngsters to compete. It's a pity the game has gone in a lot of ways. It wont suit "nice, natural" footballers like Laois traditionally have. Fierce, professional level S&C and tactics are the name of the game nowadays. I think that's a lot to do with our demise at underage. We just haven't kept in line with the growing trends. Again, we would be grand in the 90's - still relatively successful. We'll just have to shadow what the big teams are doing, or else we're going to be passed by. It's unfortunate : about 20 counties are in a similar position to us at the moment. The funding that Dublin are getting just makes a joke of things : they've raised the bar so high that it's almost impossible for other counties with poor resources to compete.

Outside of Dublin we've got the highest funding in Leinster

Steven seagull that team u have assembled three will not get near out of division 4.

First things first, it's Steven Seagal, I've been in films, I'm actually very famous. Secondly, did you even read the post, or did you just pick out the names of lads you don't like and decide to tell us all how sh*te you think they are? I said it could take us a year or two to get out of Division 4 with that team. You might not like the lads coming through, but they are the players we have to work with. The only thing we can do is try to make them better, give them time to play together and support them as best we can.

What's the alternative?

I can't wait to see the alternative.

Laois Players drinking. I'd say the county board are delighted with this controversy as it deflects from the real problems in Laois football. Generally over the last 10 years or so the commitment from Laois players has been excellent. They have prepared as well as they could and got a lot out of themselves.

If the county board acted as professionally and shown as much commitment we wouldn't be in the place we are now.

Players are an easy target and generally aren't given the chance to defend themselves.

Exactly it will distract from the real problem .......non development of young players and appointment of wrong managers.
Can see the national headlines already " Laois players drinking "

We've had some fantastic forwards during my time watching Laois  ( 50  years  ) some with outstanding natural talent  and much acclaimed.
But for me, for his ability ( he must be our all time highest scorer no) his determination his longevity and most of all for his attitude Ross would be by far the best Laois forward I have seen.

Pablo. You haven't contributed much to this forum recently bar a few comments, mostly about this transfer. Why i wonder?. My advice to you is, its over/closed and move on. Its not good for your health !! As the "Real "Pablo Escobar once said " Life is full of surprises, some good, some not so good"

or he might say

La verdad es que todo somos bandidos.

I'm just hoping this is not a PR exercise for county board to take the heat off them. Whatever does emerge from this review lets hope it is implemented. Change is badly needed to restore optimism and hope within the county. With the current structures in place in Kildare and Dublin at the moment it could take the guts of a decade of hard work to produce a competitive senior team. Kildare and Dublin are unearthing 2/3 serious underage footballers every year that are feeding into the senior team set-up and providing competition for those already there. 

Looking at the starting teams at the weekend for the connaught football and munster hurling final all the teams are pretty much aged 25 and under with a sprinkling of older players to add the necessary experience. It's frightening to think how far off the pace Laois are going to be in 2/3 years time. At moment our starting team has 3/4 players in that age bracket-O'Carroll, Buggie, P Kingston, Attrite- Of these only Attrite is a guaranteed starter. Whoever is managing Laois next year will need to identify the best 9/10 young footballers in the county and give them plenty of game time next year in division 4 and begin the rebuilding process.

I had a look through the 2009 document and as far as I'm aware  ( I'm open to correction and I hope I'm wrong) very little if any of that plan was implemented.
IMO a PR exercise is exactly what it is.

The 2009 review was indeed a mighty document I have no doubt a small fortune was paid to a PR company to present it.

Anyone know was there any of it implemented.

Clancy would be mad to take on this job at this point because let's call a spade a spade here this group are gone. They have being going down hill since Healy got his second yellow against Galway in'13 and have being going down steadily since with nothing coming through.

The place for clancy is with the u20 or u17 or development squads, he needs to learn a bit as well.
If he goes in with the seniors at this point he will forever be associated with a sinking ship in my opinion
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I heard the CB have received the most funding (after Dublin that is) of any Leinster country can anyone confirm.....and how was it spent.

SFC Qualifiers Fixture: Laois v Clare on Sat at 3pm in Portlaoise.
SHC Qualifiers: Laois v Dublin at 7pm on Sat in Parnell Park.

Very little consideration given to us here, will have to fly up to the Hurling, no doubt there be a checkpoint on the bridge or speed cameras the whole way up !! 

Am I missing something here,  Clare hurlers are not playing till Sunday 9/7/17   WTF 

Looking at the Kildare v Meath  match programme
I see of the starting 15,   4 players came from Celbridge, 
3 from Athy  and 3 from Johnstownbridge  [ and that not counting the other Cribbin player from J,town who is out injured.
that nearly 3/4 of the team from 3 clubs,

What does that say about us ?

Nothing.

What we should be looking at is that there's only  2 starters from Portlaoise , Josephs, Port, Mountmellick and Graigue.
As the small rural clubs are keeping up their end of the deal by providing the bulk of the players its clear where the future focus need to be concentrated.

I think it's very hard for supporters to make a proper judgement about a team's fitness.

In the first half against Wicklow, they looked fit to me. There were plenty of runners and they seemed to move at a decent pace. In the second half, the opposite looked to be the case.

I would say for sure that they are not nearly as fit as they were when Barry Solan was in charge. On the other hand, I cannot believe that we are poorer than Wicklow when it comes to fitness. Sometimes, lack of fitness can be blamed for deeper problems.

As Junior says, some of our top players really weren't good enough yesterday.

I wasn't at the match but  it was  a very hot day, looking at some  of the matches over the weekend and management were replacing runners early in the second half, would that have being part of the problem   ??.
Looking at the highlights last night  and 2 of their goals appeared lucky    and we led by 8 and 9 points on 2 different occasions which would suggest to me that we were that much better.

You know that horrible feeling in the pit of your stomach