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Castlebar have a good team.  A lot of players with Senior inter-county experience e.g.
Feeney * 2, Cunniffe, Durcan, O'Reilly, Moran, Douglas, Kirby.
Would say they will give Corofin a good run for their money.
Where is the final or is that decided yet?

Personally I think the details of the revolt are well known within a small camp. And these grievances are a lot to do with the CB who in turn don't want them aired publicly. The problem with that and this "charter" is that we don't or won't ever know if there is any proper resolution to the issues raised.

Full picture of this United crop will begin to emerge on Sunday. In years past United teams used to dominate the derbies. If these new guys are to be counted they must be able to at least compete in the derby. We shall see.

I agree about the "under" performance of the CB. Sure that's where all the blame lies with H&C in the overall scheme of things.

But very little criticism has been leveled in that direction or will be. Personally speaking I read those leakages to the Connaught Telegraph  and whereas some people assume they came directly from management personally I assume they came directly from within the current board. I think there is a strong mentality there to be in control all the time and they don't want anyone interfering with that.

However that comes back then onto clubs as this is where the board come from. And probably several strong personalities within the County who engineer the election and re-election of the same or similar cohorts year after year. Indeed there is no doubting their cunning. But i don't see them as capable of having the overall best interests of the fans or players at heart.

A lot of it is simply personal ambition and power. 

First of all I wonder how much that stuff would have saved? I d also have doubts that it was fewer sandwiches and other cutbacks that was the substantive cause of dissatisfaction.

Still going cheap will get us nowhere. Going back on standards Horan put in place short-sighted imo. Ye cant go back or cut-back. No sport goes backwards. The board have a top 3 team on their hands and their priority should be getting to no.1 but it wont come cheap.
I dunno but are Mayo as well marketed as it could be? A team that gets as much exposure as it does has to be attractive. Also a lot of Mayo people around the world that could be a source of funds. But people are more likely to get on board if they think the board is functional and ambitious. The events of recent weeks would not encourage people to put their hands in their pockets.

Well you have to look at it from both sides. First of all I think it's fair to say that both sides want to win the All Ireland. But at what cost?

From the players side they want every stone  turned in order to achieve that objective and if that requires so many extra ounces of gold to complete then so be it. They are not worried about costs. The goal is all that concerns them.

On the other hand the CB also wants this goal but at the same time does not want to go bankrupt in the strive for it. They look at it more pragmatically and say there is no guarantee that this bunch of players will win the  All Ireland even if Fort Knox was thrown at them. They have other financial commitments as well - i.e. through all grades within the County . Plus they don't have the financial clout of Dublin or Kerry so have to be more cautious.

[and the desire/ability of the CB to meet them]

James Horan's piece in the "Western" seemed to give unqualified backing to the players. I'd say that it's his to take if he wants it. The big question is what has he learned to add to the mix from last year? A second question would be the demands that he has and the desire/ability of the CB to meet them.

Thats a big point and one that was certainly a sticky point all year for the players. Is the money there to guarantee the standards that the players want?

Was there such a difference between what was happening this year and the structures that James Horan had in place?

CB had cost saving measures in all year I think.
From fewer sandwiches at training right up to not having full panels travel on match days. As they said in the papers it was death by a thousand cuts but at the CB end of it was the issue of monetary consumption.

I assume its also one of the reason Mike Connolly was directly involved with the players as a mediator and also a reason why his bro and PH were put there in the first place instead of the Ross alternative.

[Only Knockmore can stop it now]

Only Knockmore can stop it now.......

West Mayo County Senior Final
South Mayo County Intermediate Final
North Mayo County Junior Final

Sun may rise in the East but it doesn't set there.

Stop what ?

[and the desire/ability of the CB to meet them]

James Horan's piece in the "Western" seemed to give unqualified backing to the players. I'd say that it's his to take if he wants it. The big question is what has he learned to add to the mix from last year? A second question would be the demands that he has and the desire/ability of the CB to meet them.

Thats a big point and one that was certainly a sticky point all year for the players. Is the money there to guarantee the standards that the players want?   

I blame McStay. If he had used his head and not been so rash in his decision making he would have got a handy job.

Well done lads. We manage to divert attention onto the Rossies.

It was bound to happen.

[Pat Holmes saw fit to run]

He didn't. The only spin that's coming out is coming from H/C. The players have not come out and said anything in public as yet. The fact that Pat Holmes saw fit to run to the local papers with it speaks volumes about the level of respect that they have for this group of players.

Why do you say it was Pat Homes only? Surely it could have been either of the Connelly brother or someone else for that matter as well? Or do you just see Pat solely as the issue here?

[NEXT THURSDAY!!!]

Vincent Neary's interview on Off the Ball. He said he hadn't heard of any trouble at all until this morning. He said there were processes in place to deal with this sort of thing. Next Thursday the County board are meeting the players, NEXT THURSDAY!!! What the f**k is happening between now and then?

His interview is a joke. He sounded really weak and struggled to contain the conversation. It was laughable that he came on national airwaves to claim he did not hear about any trouble in the camp and this news today was a bombshell. Where has he been for the past 4 weeks when all these rumours have been flying around.

[Us Rossies are surely capable of contributing at least 50 pages to it!!]

I agree that this thread can reach 100 pages. Us Rossies are surely capable of contributing at least 50 pages to it!!

Posting the same thing twice is a good help..

Will be shocked if this wont break a hundred pages

Adding posts like these 2 certainly will help.

What I mean is, will the same rigmarole go on like last year's shenanigans of appointing the new managers? It's going to be the same few who are going to select the management team for next year, why should we expect anything different?

Correct, except this year it will be worse as there is no obvious candidates!!