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Kildress rowing for the second week in a row.

In other news the sky is blue

All this talk about an AI final, we got laid there last year by beating NOBODY of value. We got beat TWICE at home and still got to an AI final because we didnt meet Kerry/Mayo or Dublin in a proper knock out game. This Tyrone team may not be what you's all think of them

Kerry got played off the park by Monaghan last year and mayo got knocked out by an average Kildare team. Tyrone beat Monaghan and Donegal who operated at a level above both. Kerry and mayo could both improve this year but no idea why we needed to beat them last year to prove anything.

When was the last time we beat either of these so called "Big 3" in the AI series??

[least amount of respect to clubs and club players]

Could well have been complaints if the day had been changed. IMO the county board chose the worst option, showing the least amount of respect to clubs and club players.

This is the big problem, the arrogance of the County board to show the Club player what they think of them. Its not as if they have ye know, lives or anything, families, work plans or anything of value to be doing on a Sunday evening wind down

All this talk about an AI final, we got laid there last year by beating NOBODY of value. We got beat TWICE at home and still got to an AI final because we didnt meet Kerry/Mayo or Dublin in a proper knock out game. This Tyrone team may not be what you's all think of them

Tyrone 6 points to 1 up in the 19th minute. Colm Cavanagh comes on.

55 minutes gone and Derry are level. Colm off.

For last 19 mins we score 1-6 to 0-03.

Is there anything in this?

By playing a sweeper that everyone has watched for years do the same thing week in week out, Tyrone invited Derry onto them and it didnt suit the game. When Tyrone went man to man when he went off, they blew Derry away

As excellent as he has been, perhaps the new set up and style doesnt suit him

[give a f**k what I think]

Right one mistake and he is still being pilloried over it.Not a man or woman born who havent made a mistake.

No bother Martin.

If he didn't run about the county acting like he's God's gift to refereeing, people would probably let it go. But he comes across as an arrogant **** and when you have proven you're not infallible on a national stage, it's hard for people to like you. So, to sum up, he needs a personality transplant.
But he might be dead on if you get to know him. Either way, I'm sure he doesn't give a f**k what I think.

Im pretty sure he doesnt. Best ref was Stephen Mc Namee I think from Newtownstewart direction. Let the game go but rumours because of this he didnt "tick" all the right boxes for the hierarchy and referee commitee and therefore lost out on many big occasions

Seen several games this campaign Martin Sludden was the best referee of the lot imo.Doesnt say much for the younger brigade.

Doesn't say much for your judge of a referee either.

Sludden may well not be liked, can be sais is very c0cky and arrogant and cheeky, borderline a pr!ck on the field with some of comments, but he very rarely gets the big calls wrong in club games (Louth may not agree) but you know what your going to get from him

Abuse, but with the right calls

Hard to tell really, the competition is fierce this year. A lot will come down to good fortune on the injury front for smaller squads such as the Lough and Gortin. Pomeroy and Galbally would have to be huge favourites.

Any danger of Cookstown getting the act together ?

More chance of them going to Junior

I seen horse and Mickey were definitely there. They can hardly stretch it to mickeys 40 man backroom team or it would turn into a weekend in bundoran

Does anybody know how many are away then??

[He is also similar age to aidan mcrory so your comment on not making the team because of the number of players ahead of him in the half back line is null and void as he was, is and always will be twice the footballer, man marker, ball carrier, ball kicker whatever barometer you want to use to compare them!]

Some of you lads are awfully negative. Let's see how it goes and how he fits in. He looks like an excellent young player and could well make the step up quickly. He looked good in the senior games he did play and will hopefully improve all the time. Plenty of the top young players over the years went straight into county football with little club experience.

I'm sure he'll get exposure to the squad but be managed appropriately. Looking forward to seeing how he gets on. If they don't see him as being ready he can drop down to u20 level come championship as far as I'm aware.

I'm only pointing out how he isn't there on merit.  No question a good maybe even great youth player but that's exactly it just a youth player at this stage with very little senior club championship exposure and he's being called into a top 4 county setup in Ireland.  The amount of players who had already proven themselves from east Tyrone who never got a look in is crazy whereas the leader gave chance after chance to his own club men.  No better example than our own skipper this year compared to an errigal/Tyrone corner back.... difference of night and day when comparing footballing ability .... one played for Tyrone 50+ times the other just a handful of times.  What a waste!

You have to judge a player on whether you feel they can make it at county level as opposed to the number of years they have played club championship football. I'm sure there was players who have did well in the Kerry club championship for years that by your logic should have been called up for Kerry ahead of Clifford. Mickey Harte shouldn't have called up Sean Cavanagh coming out of minor football as their was more experienced players that had played in the senior championship ahead of him. Peter Canavan was another one called in young that had little or no club championship experience at that age. Time will tell whether he is there on merit but he is a very gifted young player and I hope he goes on to fulfil his potential.

This east Tyrone thing is a load of nonsense. McNally did get called into the Tyrone panel and got game time including championship football.  He struggled to make the half back line at the time which included players that had won multiple All Irelands. In the games he did play I don't remember him standing out. Two of the players that were ahead of him came from Carrickmore (Errigals biggest rival) and the Moy an east Tyrone club so your anti errigal agenda doesn't stack up. He has been one of the best half backs over the last ten years in club football and if had stuck at it at county level could well have pushed on to make it. I can't remember if he walked away or was dropped and would be surprised if he wasn't asked back since. If he walked away or didn't want to come back then your point is even more redundant.

It's strange given Harte's so called anti east tyrone bias that there was an Edendork man, 2 Coalisland men, 2 Clonoe men and 2 Moy men that played in last years final.

I didn't claim he was anti anybody.  I feel some are afforded more opportunity than others to find their feet and confidence at that level.  I am lead to believe mackers was offered to go to the trials this year (which is complete nonsense surely his performances in the championship this year are a better indicator of his ability than a stupid trial match) which he rightly declined!

He is also similar age to aidan mcrory so your comment on not making the team because of the number of players ahead of him in the half back line is null and void as he was, is and always will be twice the footballer, man marker, ball carrier, ball kicker whatever barometer you want to use to compare them!

Harte certainly liked McRory more than many other people. I wouldn't have picked him a lot of the times he did get picked but he was someone who always stuck to the task given to him. When McNally was trying to break into the team he was considered more an attacking half back and for one reason or another didn't take the opportunities he got. But the half back line was very strong at that time so his games were limited.

I do think he should have got more game time over the years but I have no idea whether he left the panel of his own accord and whether he declined to come back like this year. If he had any interest in playing for Tyrone I suspect he would have gone to the trial as everyone else did including players from last year who were asked to play. I don't think he is above the trials process.

But the point I was disputing was Harte not picking players because they are east Tyrone or what club they come from as opposed to being critical of McNally who has every right not to play if he doesn't want to.

Non comparison, Mackers head and shoulders above the Errigal man who got many opportunities

If memory serves me right, he was trying to break into a team (as an attacking half back) in the years when Tyrone were going ultra defensive and therefore he was never going to shine in Hartes system then. Many a good footballer in the county has been overlooked for various reasons like this

Probably the greatest few posts in a while

Your captain this year is an exceptional talent who never really got a good run of games. Fully agree with you on this 1 versus a couple of Errigal players

[Gallen - Agh'yarn]

Reading through all these 'I hear' and 'I believe'.

Looks like no one knows!

Murnaghan - Kilyclogher
Rafferty - Galbally
Grugan - Omagh
Gallen - Agh'yarn
Coney - Ardbo
Mc Curry - Edendork
Gray - Trillick?
Kennedy - DerryL

Rumours circling that his call up has put an end to M O'Neills spot

[were found wanting]

It was 1-10 to 1-08 with 25 mins gone in second half then McNulty scored his goal to wrap it up. I

Apologies, I thought Dungannon pulled away slightly earlier.
But this reinforces the point that when the chips were down loughmacrory were found wanting.

This idiot clearly has an agenda v Loughmacrory, dont fall into it. 3 defeats all year for what I am lead to believe is a very young, up and coming team is not bad going, and I would imagine 95% of fans would gladly take that

Coalisland doing some crying about pitch ref etc.

Were you at the game?? The ref seemed to allow Cross do whatever the hell they liked for the 1st 15 minutes, knees in, clossed fists tackles. Coalisland can rightly complain about him, and as O'Hagan put it, he was totally out of his depth. Coalisland actually played better with the 13 men. Toner was harsh but ref within the rules, nobody around me seen what Hapmshey had done. Hanratty near decapitated a man. As stated, another Tyrone team gone early in Ulster. Winning Tyrone and the celebrations must take it out of teams

Cross v's the Mc Gee's and Cassidy could be tasty