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Anyone know why online presales for this weekend's games aren't live today?

i haven't checked this week, but last week the online tickets had to be delivered by post (i.e. there was no PDF option).  Therefore they stopped the online sales around Thursday as the tickets wouldn't be delivered by the weekend.

Also, there was a delivery charge on top of the €15 with the online charge.

So the only way to get the advance price of €15 is to get to Supervalue or Centra!

I'm guessing the reason they don't have print your own ticket option is because not every ground would have scanners available for the pdf tickets, and therefore the proper physical tickets are the best option for the turnstile operators?

15 euro. 20 this year. 25 percent increase.

€15 again this year in advance. You can literally take yourself and a clatter of wains to Croke Pk / Healey / Clones / Fitzgerald / Castlebar to watch the best players in the country do battle for €15 feckin euros... I honestly don't understand the knicker twisting going on atm

If you compare like with like, it was €12 in advance last year, €15 this year.  That is a 25% increase.
Or at the gate it was €15 last year, €20 this year.  That's a 33% increase.

Company Man Clerkin has his say.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkHonKkyl2o

Talks a lot of rubbish there!!

One of the things he is ignoring (choosing to ignore) is that the pre-sale tickets were only €10 in 2016. They went up to €12 in 2017 and now up to €15.

He was talking about a €2 increase (it's actually €3!) and that there was no increase since 2011. - Incorrect!

The sin bin and the three other changes only applies for inter county games not club games in 2019

I wasn't aware of that either.

Thanks

[yesterday the first galway black card was after 20 minutes. So you'd expect him back on at 30 minutes. Except in the next few minutes there was a couple of injuries and a 'melee' which all added time. So It was after 30 minutes before sin bin no.1 was over.]

Having seen the sin-bin in operation in the Galway V Ros match yesterday, on a practical level, how will club referees manage?

yesterday the first galway black card was after 20 minutes. So you'd expect him back on at 30 minutes. Except in the next few minutes there was a couple of injuries and a 'melee' which all added time. So It was after 30 minutes before sin bin no.1 was over.

In addition, there was a second sin binning for galway after about 32 minutes (galway were down to 13 for a period). But with all the injury time played at the end of the first half, most of the second sin binning period was actually in the first half (even though he was sin binned about 3 minutes before the 35 minutes were due to be up!).

It's going to be very hard for the refs in club matches (where it's hard enough to get an upmire, let alone a linesman as well!) to deal with all this.
I've no problem with the sin bin in theory (and in intercounty matches where there are plenty of officials), but how well will it work in the club game?

I read somewhere yesterday that unlike rugby, the sin bin clock doesn't stop when the ball is out of play.
So in theory, if a player got a black card and another player was injured at the time and there was a break in play for 10 mins, the black carded player would be back on the field for the resumption of play, not having missed anything!

I wasn't aware of that. I assumed the sinbin clock would be stopped for an injury or whenever the ref stops his watch (i.e. anything that warrants additional time being added on at the end of the half).

Then surely it pays to have a melee every time you get a black card so. The longer it takes the ref to sort it all out, the shorter the period without the sin-binned player!

Also, what about the additonal time at the end of a half.
Say Player gets black carded after 34 minutes. There are say 3 additonal minutes at the end of the first half. Do those 3 minutes eat into the sinbinned players' time or not?
I.e. is he due back after 9 minutes of the second hald, or 6 minutes of the second half?

Having seen the sin-bin in operation in the Galway V Ros match yesterday, on a practical level, how will club referees manage?

yesterday the first galway black card was after 20 minutes. So you'd expect him back on at 30 minutes. Except in the next few minutes there was a couple of injuries and a 'melee' which all added time. So It was after 30 minutes before sin bin no.1 was over.

In addition, there was a second sin binning for galway after about 32 minutes (galway were down to 13 for a period). But with all the injury time played at the end of the first half, most of the second sin binning period was actually in the first half (even though he was sin binned about 3 minutes before the 35 minutes were due to be up!).

It's going to be very hard for the refs in club matches (where it's hard enough to get an upmire, let alone a linesman as well!) to deal with all this.
I've no problem with the sin bin in theory (and in intercounty matches where there are plenty of officials), but how well will it work in the club game?

[Any club still getting new sets of jerseys blessed?]

Ridiculous for anyone to be giving out about a club mass. I'd say 95 per cent plus of members in most clubs over the years will have been christened, made confession, made communion, made confirmation in a chapel and if they've subsequently got married or died the wedding/funeral will have taken place in a chapel. If people who are religious want to remember these people in the chapel and other club members who have passed away then that's a nice thing to do and should be encouraged.

If the local church of Ireland (or other church) wants to remember any club members that were members of that church (or other churches) then I'd be equally as happy.

Trying to stop masses paying tribute to past members is absolutely twisted and if anyone is trying to force their opinion on others it's the people who are trying to ban the masses.

Having a club mass in defacto makes the club a Catholic organisation
There should be zero mention of any religion in a GAA club

The organisations whether we like it or not have were intertwined since the birth of the GAA.

While it might not be "modern inclusive" to set aside a single function a year that allows those who still feel like this to celebrate it, it would generally be wiser step than disenfranchising those who feel it is important.

Club masses will die out naturally over the next generation or two. There's no need to force the situation through.

Not a big fan of Mass to begin with but if the rest of the club want to go to the local church to remember past members then that's fine.

Any club still getting new sets of jerseys blessed?

Was that a thing?
Don't ever remember that done in our club! Maybe that's why we didn't win too much!! 

I think the 3 hand pass rule will have to go because it is too hard to enforce for referees.  Having seen my first game under the new rules yesterday it's nearly impossible for a ref to keep track of it.

regardless of whether it is a good idea in theory or not, I think it'll have to go.

The other 4 rules had minimal effect yesterday, but I think the attacking mark will actually lead to more teams dropping men back to play in front of the big target men.

Why would you do away with them? Club masses for the deacesed members of the club?

Anyone that wants to go can go. Anyone that doesn't want to go doesn't have to.

We've had club masses in our club for at least 30 years (probably more!), but I don't think I've ever attended one of them!

[The biggest issue is mass defenses which leads to back passing, hand passing and that issue has not been addresses imo.]

Teach forwards how to tackle and keep them up the field.
Few things more uncomfortable than a corner back with the ball under pressure 
The game has been turned into soccer with hands.
At least in soccer the ball is relatively loose all the time but we have allowed the man with ball in hand to do anything he likes with it.
If we leave that as it is then we need to bring in a tackle on the man.

This is the key point! The ball must be made more available/easily got by the team not in possession you make whatever changes are neededserve that objective. Hurling is great cos the ball is virtually always out there and easily got at. So an AussieRules smother tackle would help as would more kicking, as would banning the handpass ( its too easy to retain possession if you transfer the ball by handpass) and  enforcing the steps/ time in possession rule strictly. And a shot clock ( 2nd half only) would be easy to enforce if you designed a special stopwatch for GAA refs with a timed alarmed  stop clock button Use technology

Can't see the shot clock for second half only, think of the possibilities if there is a gale force wind blowing?  For me the change that definitely should have occurred is mandating a minimum of 4 outfield players in both halves of the field.  The biggest issue is mass defenses which leads to back passing, hand passing and that issue has not been addresses imo.

This!

Mass defences is the problem.  Most of the other problems (ball retention, endless handpassing, back passing, lack of long direct kick passes) are symptoms of the packed defences. 
Any solutions should be aimed at reducing the numbers teams have in defence. Ideally, it wouldn't be a rule to force that, but if that's what it takes then so be it.

Thats an improvement

Rules are only for the little Counties

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/four-counties-get-home-ban-for-breaching-training-camp-rules-but-dublin-escape-37504799.html

'a historical pursuit'   

How about when you kick the ball over the bar you get as many points as the amount of your own players inside the oppositions 21yard line. 

Well, it's certainly a novel idea! 

Rossfan I never suggested that nothing should be done.

Itchy, I think this amended proposal doesn't make sense at all. Forcing the keeper to kick long will mean that anyone who stands inside the 45 for a kickout is immediatey taken out of the game. With no restriction on where players can stand for the kick out and knowing that the ball will land somewhere between 45-80 metres, all/most of the forwards will drop back into that area to clog up the space. Anytime the ball breaks (which will be more likely to happen now due to the increased number of players in the middle sector), It'll be a real scramble with several players around the ball/man in possession. Is that what people want to see?

Kicking the ball long is what we'd all like to see, but forcing it to happen is silly (Especially without a restriction on where players can be). One of the main reasons forwards stay up the field for kick outs at the moment is to try to cut off the short kick-out. That won't be necessary now, so forwards are unlikely to stay up the field.

They looked at it and have revised it based on difficulties.
Very sensible and decisions to be made on 24th November.

Sensible would have been not suggesting the proposal in the first place!

So about a month after announcing proposed rule changes they are already considering changing the proposals!

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/1107/1009213-gaa-to-scrap-player-limits-in-new-kick-out-rule/