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[I hope Tyrone carry the hurt of losing into the qf with Kerry.]

Just seen the highlights on tg4 player. I hope Tyrone carry the hurt of losing into the qf with Kerry. They might meet Monaghan again.

Just going on the highlights of the Ulster final and from what I know of our setup, it could be a shoot-out between the 2 forward lines...I have had little expectation in our minor team this year..they were well beaten in Tralee by Cork, so I don't expect them to win an AI..I have little regard for the management who have messed around with the team far too much already this year. That being said there are a few good prospects in the team, Conor Keane chief amongst them, so just hoping they perform well.

Actually think Tyrone have a decent shot of winning another AI if they lift themselves again.

Just saw highlights of this on TG4 earlier..Tyrone looked the better team from the coverage, but you can't leak 4 goals at this level...the penalty at the end looked a terrible call to me, but didn't see any replay.

Also, who the hell was the Monaghan manager/mentor who grabbed the cup when the captain was being presented with it?!

Kerry bucks...how does Donnacha Walsh consistently get his place on the Kerry team. I'm obviously missing something!

No, I agree..he is a weak link and just keeps hanging on and getting picked...he adds little in my view anyway and is too slow for a modern half forward.

Smart move by Fitzy, attack is now built to carry ball at pace and finish smartly. Baptism of fire for Griffin, but he is up to it and was outstanding against Cork for CIT earlier this year aswell.

P.S: Another Syf classic...Kildare would beat Kerry...the man is hilarious to be fair to him!

Great achievement for London, but like others I fear this could be a massacre...Should be played at a neutral venue at the very least aswell...

They don't pay much attention to us "lesser counties" on here CM, hence scarcely a mention of what will be by far the highest quality provincial final....

Mahony is a big loss for us..Griffin is a grand player but it would be his biggest game by far to date and even players of the calibre of Tomás have found the going tough in your first Kerry v Cork battle in Killarney.

Really looking forward to it..sun shining, Scotts, MacSweeney's, Laurels..all jammed to the gills..and then of course the short walk up Lewis road to our own cathedral of football where a I would imagine a capacity crowd will gather..wouldn't rather be anywhere else in the world..

[I believe the Kerry ban is because they heard Syfín was on his way to take a peek]

C'mon Rossfan. Spill the beans.

Who was playing where? Were they playing 13 man defence?
Was there much bite in their attack?

Wasn't there and as my 2 sources can't even agree on the score............ I wouldn't trust anything they'd say ( they were both playing by the way so they probably had enough to be thinkin about).

I believe the Kerry ban is because they heard Syfín was on his way to take a peek 

Aye, the Syf has a special place in his heart for us...

Actually, I just was reminded of when he was on about Donie Shine destroying Tommy Walsh in the minor final in 2006...the one where Tommy caught almost every kickout...

If we win Munster we should make the semis, if not its still possible but harder. Its going to take a lot of work for us to make the final even, but I wouldn't rule us out. Would love another crack at Donegal.

How does one vote?

Find it incredible that Niall Buckley has so little of the vote..thought he was a fantastic player.

Tohill was  one of my favourite players growing up..a fantatically skillful player for his size and position.

Darragh has to be no.1 though. No midfielder influenced more big games to the degree he did over such an extended period. A man
I was privileged to share a pitch with (although not so much at the time!) and watch for so long. I always think a picture paints a thousand words so..

Missed that tonight...hope it's repeated. You have to admire the Dingle/Corcha Dhuibhne people. They have a festival or event on every other month. Always a party going on...Páidí Sé's comortas, the food festival, the film festival, the Wran, NYE, Tommy Griffin's comortas, the marathon, agus araile arís. loads of others. Great community thíos ansin.

Sounds like you're no stranger to the delights of Wesht Kerry yourself 5 Sams?! For a small town, Dingle is a great spot for a night out to be fair and if the weather is any way fair, back around Dunquin or Ballyferriter is as close to utopia as I've encountered.

I spend a lot of time down there CT. The top of an Clasach looking out over the Blaskets is the most spectacular view you will ever see...add in the people, chat about football, an teanga, pints in Maura Bawns or Muiris Dan's, tramping up Mt Eagle or Brandon, catching the odd game at Gallarus or Páirc an Aghasaigh with lads with multiple Celtic crosses in their arse pockets on view....where else would you go?? Heaven for me.

Ah maith an fear!

Its no wonder there's so many good footballers back there really..to quote a former Kerry players when asked why football was so strong, "with the ocean in front of you and mountains behind you, shur there's f**k all else to do!".

[The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment]

Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.

The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment

What did he say?

Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.

Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.

Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.

Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.

What he said wasn't that bad but it made headlines during the quiet december period: this is a bit

Tyrone report rekindles Kerry rivalry

Tuesday, December 04, 2012

Tyrone secretary Dominic McCaughey stoked the flames of the county's rivalry with Kerry in his annual report.

"In addition, both players and management were deeply frustrated by what they considered inadequate refereeing that lacked consistency and included some serious errors. When the final whistle sounded, Kerry had a 10-point winning margin that was greeted, amazingly, with tears of joy by some players and wild scenes of jubilation among highly vociferous supporters."

Indeed it was a very niggly game from both sides, i actually had a good laugh when gormley got his jammy goal and then the slow mo replay showed him getting the ball out of the net and stuffing it into the belly of tomas o'se! sneaky dig. The difference was that kerry also hit some lovely points that day and that's what made it good to watch.

The 05 and 08 finals are still easily up there with the best games i ever seen, and I was even supporting tyrone both days, so I was just happy to see the tables turned last summer as you say, the guys were under big pressure. But sure I also think kerry will win the all-ireland this year if they get all the old guys flying

Beat by 10 and moaning about the ref? He comes across as a right knob in that report anyway, not that I know the man from Adam.

Had to laugh at Gormley ramming the ball into Tomás...did he think he would wind him or something?!

Yeah 2005 final is up there with best games I've seen, have watched it a few times. 2008 final is not so easy to watch for many reasons.

[The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment]

Whats most cringy is when tyrone fans go on about how hurt kerry have been for years, and claiming the celebrations at the end were over the top. I said at the time it was great to see cooper, galvin and co jumping around at the end, why wudn't they after a 10 point thumping? Even micky harte came out later and said "well it wasnt they team that won 3 all-ireland that they beat". What a strange comment. Teams naturually evolve, but there would have been the satisfaction of stuffing a team with the main nasty characters ricey, mugsy, gormley, stevie o neill, big pascal and his finger, and of course mcguigan and his 2 second cameo.

The tyrone secretary then having to mention it in his annual report in december was also an embarressment

What did he say?

Nice to see you on our side of an argument Orchardman, but to be honest the reason the Kerry lads celebrated so much that day (and they did overdo it a bit) was that they were under savage pressure beforehand...they were being told they were finished if they lost, that it would be Tomás' last game and a disgrace for it to be a loss in Killarney to Tyrone. They were facing a team they had never beaten in c/ship football, they had almost been beaten in Mullingar the week before and had got dogs abuse over that also.

Mickey Harte was a bit strange in his comments after that game alright, going on about the ref and stuff, but we'll chalk that down to emotions getting the better of him.

Don't think I commented here at the time but it was one of the dirtiest games I've ever seen, both sides were well wound up..Ricey got in a row with a guy outside the wire DURING THE WARMUP on the terrace side! It was edgy stuff.

Won't be as intense Sunday week but should still be wiry enough. Apart from one league game in Killarney a few years ago, these games have been largely tight affairs so expecting the same.

Missed that tonight...hope it's repeated. You have to admire the Dingle/Corcha Dhuibhne people. They have a festival or event on every other month. Always a party going on...Páidí Sé's comortas, the food festival, the film festival, the Wran, NYE, Tommy Griffin's comortas, the marathon, agus araile arís. loads of others. Great community thíos ansin.

Sounds like you're no stranger to the delights of Wesht Kerry yourself 5 Sams?! For a small town, Dingle is a great spot for a night out to be fair and if the weather is any way fair, back around Dunquin or Ballyferriter is as close to utopia as I've encountered.

Has the Kerry County Board made a request for their supporters to be segregated from them Tyrone "hallions" in Omagh with a police escort to the ground?

Yes. All fans leaving from the Kingdom are also being given poncho's to ward off the danger of possible projectile saliva. 

C'mon now Fionn, don't be telling me ye took that ape from Crokes seriously when he went on about fan segregation? He was a laughing stock down here as much as anywhere for that shur.

Kerry can win this, but only if the half forward line is revamped completely..and I fear that won't happen, so given that and the fact that Tyrone will be well up for it, I'd fancy a home win here.

Looking forward to having the craic with the many genuine football people I'll no doubt meet in Omagh.

The problem with Kerry having arguably above-average access to important media outlets is that the bullshit filter fails too often. Many journalists will look for something that sells.

If it's your first time in Healy Park, (a) bring a damn good warm coat no matter what the weather. That part of Omagh's fairly high up, windy, and  Tyrone doesn't have any microclimate that you might find say at Valentia, (b) if you're going to the stand, either stick with the travelling support as a group or find a seat located on the far end of the turnstiles (the left side as seen from the TV cameras), if you don't know why you might understand as the game goes on, and (c) most of the shops nearby will happily take Euros at least in notes for a fair exchange rate, but will give you change in sterling. Enjoy the trip, because from either end it's a long one.

Dublin media are obsessed with Kerry, no denying it, partially because most of them long for the Kerry v Dublin era. Don't know what you mean by "bullshit filter" though and an idiotic statement like the crowd segregation nonsense is far from the norm.

Won't be first time in Healy park, was there the day Ricey dropped the hand on Galvin in 2009...quite a romantic gesture! Hostile enough during the match for sure, but I wouldn't give a shite where I was sitting/standing. Most Tyrone people are dead on before/after the game...some lose the run of themselves completely for the 70 mins yeah, but its not like that doesn't happen down here either I guess.

Kerry are over in Portugal at the minute, so that may accelerate the conditioning a bit...still won't matter if we select such a toothless half forward line again. Either way its going to be hard to get a result. We've dominated Tyrone is several games in Omagh, but gone to sleep for too long in all those games also. I'd be happy enough with a decent performance and a decent team structure to be honest.

This is all part of Liam O'Neills crusade against the evil "cult of the manager"...he has a serious bee in the bonnet over stuff like this.

To be fair, naming dummy teams all the time for League games is idiotic and Cork and Dublin have been guilty in this regard in football league. For C/ship though, you can see the tactical element to it, so can see why managers do it.