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Around Tyrone-'Thon', as in, "Luk at thon!", or " luk at the head on thon blade!", which reminds me of 'blade' for the fairer sex-not necessarily derogatory.  'Your blade' for your sister is quite acceptable as is 'the oul blade' for your mother.  Don't know it's origins.

In Limerick they use the word 'gowl' as in 'He's some gowl, that fella' or 'Get away, you gowl!' 
Cuts to the bone.

Basically, I basically have a lecturer who basically says basically, basically every other word that basically comes basically out of his mouth, basically.  In a one hour lecture,  one of the lads counted 156 basicallys.  Never noticed till somebody pointed it out.  Now it drives me giddy.

'lick y'know' is common-think it's nerves that cause these things.

cheers

Any word on Tyrone game?  In college and sportsnewsireland is blocked as it is classified as a gambling website!?

[our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture]

           These things have the potential to happen at any game, anywhere in the country.  The only game I was ever at in Kerry was in the league a few years back when Tyrone played Kerry in Austin Stacks.  My better half and I were seated beside a particularly aggressive element where if either of us had opened our mouths at the wrong time, I have no doubt that physical violence would have ensued. (by the way, our car had been keyed during the game-perhaps more to do with the Cork Reg. than anything!)   
           My point is that there is the potential for these things to happen at any sporting event and it does happen.  I seem to remember a Clare club hurling match where the supporters held a player through the wire while the opposing team flailed him with hurleys. 

           Whataboutery? What about it?  Maybe if the GAA and pundits concentrated a bit more on whataboutery, they could compile a dossier of incidents, analyse the root causes, look for trends and decide if changes need to be made or intuitive sessions need to be held because it does happen occasionally in all counties.  Imposing massive fines and bans on the clubs concerned will do nothing to stop these things happening.   I'm all for whataboutery!

          I see some nonsense in today's Irish Times, comparing the role of the referees in Rugby to that of the GAA ref.  While I enjoy watching rugby,   I for one would hate to see that militant and almost pompous control of GAA games take place.  In many ways our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture, that is what makes them special.  It also makes them potentially dangerous if they are not steered in the right direction by officials, coaches, and stewards, albeit in a way that is relative to the spirit of the games.         

Couldn't have said it better myself Tyrone club football = tribal culture. You can stick your tribal culture if it means referees getting assaulted, supporters getting their ears bitten off and the GAA making news headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Officials and coaches steering in the right direction? - you're having a laugh. A Rasharkin club official was prominent in their shenanigans and McGinn was manager when he was at his "Dromore Kiss" routine.

Whataboutery is for primary schoolyards 

             The tribal nature of this country will always exist and should be acknowledged and nourished as an irish facet.      99% of the time it manifests itself in a positive way so if you want to disown that then go ahead.   I know where I'll stand.  Is it possible that we are Tyrone are more tribal than others-possible, as we do come from one of the last two Gaelic Kingdoms of Ireland and have endured recent troubles that other counties will never experience.  Then why does it happen in other counties the length and breadth of Ireland?     

Is it not obvious that that I implied the games should be steered in the right direction by officials and coaches?

What are you talking about?

troubles

You are a bollocks.

Tell me, Trillick boy, what part of my musings above (and that's all they are) led you to launch such an attack on me?  I'd like to know...

[our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture]

           These things have the potential to happen at any game, anywhere in the country.  The only game I was ever at in Kerry was in the league a few years back when Tyrone played Kerry in Austin Stacks.  My better half and I were seated beside a particularly aggressive element where if either of us had opened our mouths at the wrong time, I have no doubt that physical violence would have ensued. (by the way, our car had been keyed during the game-perhaps more to do with the Cork Reg. than anything!)   
           My point is that there is the potential for these things to happen at any sporting event and it does happen.  I seem to remember a Clare club hurling match where the supporters held a player through the wire while the opposing team flailed him with hurleys. 

           Whataboutery? What about it?  Maybe if the GAA and pundits concentrated a bit more on whataboutery, they could compile a dossier of incidents, analyse the root causes, look for trends and decide if changes need to be made or intuitive sessions need to be held because it does happen occasionally in all counties.  Imposing massive fines and bans on the clubs concerned will do nothing to stop these things happening.   I'm all for whataboutery!

          I see some nonsense in today's Irish Times, comparing the role of the referees in Rugby to that of the GAA ref.  While I enjoy watching rugby,   I for one would hate to see that militant and almost pompous control of GAA games take place.  In many ways our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture, that is what makes them special.  It also makes them potentially dangerous if they are not steered in the right direction by officials, coaches, and stewards, albeit in a way that is relative to the spirit of the games.         

Couldn't have said it better myself Tyrone club football = tribal culture. You can stick your tribal culture if it means referees getting assaulted, supporters getting their ears bitten off and the GAA making news headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Officials and coaches steering in the right direction? - you're having a laugh. A Rasharkin club official was prominent in their shenanigans and McGinn was manager when he was at his "Dromore Kiss" routine.

Whataboutery is for primary schoolyards 

             The tribal nature of this country will always exist and should be acknowledged and nourished as an irish facet.      99% of the time it manifests itself in a positive way so if you want to disown that then go ahead.   I know where I'll stand.  Is it possible that we are Tyrone are more tribal than others-possible, as we do come from one of the last two Gaelic Kingdoms of Ireland and have endured recent troubles that other counties will never experience.  Then why does it happen in other counties the length and breadth of Ireland?     

Is it not obvious that that I implied the games should be steered in the right direction by officials and coaches?

What are you talking about?

troubles

While I agree that players need to have more respect and vice-versa, I don't think that the rugby style ref is the road to go down-you run the danger of changing the dynamic of the game.  The standard of officiating at all levels has been a joke for this past ten years and that needs to be addressed.  Pat McAneny's style of refereeing should be used as a model for all officials.  He seems to maintain control and momentum of a game without military inspired tactics.

[our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture]

           These things have the potential to happen at any game, anywhere in the country.  The only game I was ever at in Kerry was in the league a few years back when Tyrone played Kerry in Austin Stacks.  My better half and I were seated beside a particularly aggressive element where if either of us had opened our mouths at the wrong time, I have no doubt that physical violence would have ensued. (by the way, our car had been keyed during the game-perhaps more to do with the Cork Reg. than anything!)   
           My point is that there is the potential for these things to happen at any sporting event and it does happen.  I seem to remember a Clare club hurling match where the supporters held a player through the wire while the opposing team flailed him with hurleys. 

           Whataboutery? What about it?  Maybe if the GAA and pundits concentrated a bit more on whataboutery, they could compile a dossier of incidents, analyse the root causes, look for trends and decide if changes need to be made or intuitive sessions need to be held because it does happen occasionally in all counties.  Imposing massive fines and bans on the clubs concerned will do nothing to stop these things happening.   I'm all for whataboutery!

          I see some nonsense in today's Irish Times, comparing the role of the referees in Rugby to that of the GAA ref.  While I enjoy watching rugby,   I for one would hate to see that militant and almost pompous control of GAA games take place.  In many ways our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture, that is what makes them special.  It also makes them potentially dangerous if they are not steered in the right direction by officials, coaches, and stewards, albeit in a way that is relative to the spirit of the games.         

Couldn't have said it better myself Tyrone club football = tribal culture. You can stick your tribal culture if it means referees getting assaulted, supporters getting their ears bitten off and the GAA making news headlines for all the wrong reasons.

Officials and coaches steering in the right direction? - you're having a laugh. A Rasharkin club official was prominent in their shenanigans and McGinn was manager when he was at his "Dromore Kiss" routine.

Whataboutery is for primary schoolyards 

             The tribal nature of this country will always exist and should be acknowledged and nourished as an irish facet.      99% of the time it manifests itself in a positive way so if you want to disown that then go ahead.   I know where I'll stand.  Is it possible that we are Tyrone are more tribal than others-possible, as we do come from one of the last two Gaelic Kingdoms of Ireland and have endured recent troubles that other counties will never experience.  Then why does it happen in other counties the length and breadth of Ireland?     

Is it not obvious that that I implied the games should be steered in the right direction by officials and coaches?

           These things have the potential to happen at any game, anywhere in the country.  The only game I was ever at in Kerry was in the league a few years back when Tyrone played Kerry in Austin Stacks.  My better half and I were seated beside a particularly aggressive element where if either of us had opened our mouths at the wrong time, I have no doubt that physical violence would have ensued. (by the way, our car had been keyed during the game-perhaps more to do with the Cork Reg. than anything!)   
           My point is that there is the potential for these things to happen at any sporting event and it does happen.  I seem to remember a Clare club hurling match where the supporters held a player through the wire while the opposing team flailed him with hurleys. 

           Whataboutery? What about it?  Maybe if the GAA and pundits concentrated a bit more on whataboutery, they could compile a dossier of incidents, analyse the root causes, look for trends and decide if changes need to be made or intuitive sessions need to be held because it does happen occasionally in all counties.  Imposing massive fines and bans on the clubs concerned will do nothing to stop these things happening.   I'm all for whataboutery!

          I see some nonsense in today's Irish Times, comparing the role of the referees in Rugby to that of the GAA ref.  While I enjoy watching rugby,   I for one would hate to see that militant and almost pompous control of GAA games take place.  In many ways our national games are synonymous with our tribal culture, that is what makes them special.  It also makes them potentially dangerous if they are not steered in the right direction by officials, coaches, and stewards, albeit in a way that is relative to the spirit of the games.   

           

The more I look at these photos, the more I realise that 90% of the stuff posted in this thread is of the brown variety.  Where are the scarpering crowds, blood-soaked t-shirts, etc that the headlines imply?  Apart from the couple of clowns involved, the rest of the crowd seem pretty cool and the large gang of men around the bottom of the stand aren't actually doing anything, probably just havin a gawk, tryin to break it up or slabberin at the worst.  There are several people in the crowd, including an elderly woman,  havin a laugh at the whole thing. 

The first brawl I've seen where nearly everybody has their hands in their hands in their pockets!

While the incident's shouldn't happen, in the grand scheme of things, they're hardly Landsdowne Road ,1995 are they?
  I suppose it gives a few lang-heads some anti-Tyrone ammo, the inevitable by-product of success.  To suggest that Tyrone has any more reprobates than any other county in ireland is ridiculous-(cue the whatabouterying...)
 
     

[that nobody from your clubs supporters standing there would react?]

As for opposition supporters attacking another, can you honestly say that if you were standing at a match with your own clubs supporters and a supporter from the opposing club reached over the wire and hit one of your players across the head with an umbrella, that nobody from your clubs supporters standing there would react? That's not supporting what happened, just pointing out that it takes two to tango lads.

Possibly, but there would be plenty enough sensible heads about to step in and diffuse the situation rather than fuel it.

Nonsense. Had someone at any game anywhere in Ireland leaned over the wire at a final and attacked an opposing club player with an umbrella, the end result would have been no different. Suggesting otherwise is utterly fanciful.

most towns and villages in ireland arent full of people who have itchy fingers ready to get involved in a fight at any time and boast about it
have you rung marty mcguiness to get this sorted yet?

I'd say he's right and busy-sure hasn't he just sorted out the Presidency?

[GAA]

Brawls, diggin sessions, call them what you want have happened up and down the country since the start of the GAA.  Let's not get haughty here.

  I've a very good friend from Cork who has it instilled in his head that Northeners and Northern matches are particularly rough and dirty.  In almost the same breath he'll tell me about the killing sessions they would have when they played the Kerry teams-having to make a run for the bus after a match and violence continuing into the nearby town that night.

   An older relative of my wife's from a certain Connaught county received a ban for attacking a ref mid-game and has been known to scale the fence on several occasions-honest family man who just loses the head at matches. 

  My point is that these things do happen all over the country and always have done so.  From the photos there, it seems to be one or two lunatics in the crowd that have lost control and they should be banned for life-for their own good and the good of other decent supporters and young children.

Carrickmore and dromore are extremely competitive and successful outfits who are going to be in the limelight more than most and they should curtail the chance of any more bad publicity with meaningful club statements and punishments to suit.

Interesting to see that the BBC Northern-Ireland website have a "Violent scenes at Tyrone GAA game" main headline for half the day when the can't seem to use the letters "GAA" to categorise the sport in  the sporting headlines, preferring to use "Northern Ireland" when every other sport from soccer to boxing is categorised correctly-gobshites.






   

The ref was a total disgrace today, shame on him

       The only bit of sense on this board tonight.  While I hope that the fans and players of Dublin have a ball tonight, they will never have Sam handed to them as easily in the future.  I counted at least six pointed frees given to Dublin in the wrong today and two blatant Dublin sendings-off ignored by the ref.  Spoilt the match for me as a spectacle and I commiserate totally with Kerry who were outstanding to overcome the psychological torture of one-sided refereeing and almost win the game.  Had the game been martialled fairly, Kerry would have won well.  I'd say the game was better to be at than watch on TV where the shocking decisions were hard to stomach.

  I don't begrudge Dublin Sam this year for their efforts-I just can't forget several decisions that have went in their favour over the championship and, quite frankly, I'm losing interest in the sport due to the crap refereeing.

Delighted for the players and fans, though-they have had their fair share of heartache over the years and they bring a lot to the game.

Too much love on this thread, humility in defeat, humility in victory, where is the bitterness, the anger, the resentment, bah! what has this board become 

Now there's a man talking sense.  Tyrone fans, where has your sense of twistedness gone?

I'm all for Kerry, Mayo or Donegal now in the interest of traditional football physiquev super-muscled rugby-trained machines. That's why I wasn't too sorry to see Kildare or Cork go.