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#496
Quote from: Jayop on June 20, 2017, 08:25:49 PM
Quote from: Maroon Manc on June 20, 2017, 02:54:56 PM
I wouldn't know the exact numbers and ages but looking at both teams it looks like Donegal had a lot more players aged 23 and under and would imagine 7 of that Donegal team that started would have less than 5 championship appearance to their name.

I paused the video where they named the teams and they had the players ages, and we (Tyrone) had an average age of 26.07 starting the game yesterday compared to Donegal's 23.93 so just over two years older per man on average.

That 26 year average has to be near perfect and what you'd want. We seem now to have a great mix of older experienced players with McCarren and Sean Cavanagh in their 30's and Colm Cavanagh 29 and then a lot of these young lads from Mulgrew at 19 right through.

Exciting panel this year but with Sean packing it in after this summer we really need to get as much out of his experience as we can this summer.

Sean Cavanagh played okay on Sunday but I thought some of his decision making was poor, especially the goal chance in first half where his shot was straight at the keeper. Should have passed. Seemed to hold onto the ball too long at times when getting the pass away quickly seemed to be the easier and better option. Is he trying to hard if this is his last season?
#497
Quote from: square_ball on June 21, 2017, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: Main Street on June 20, 2017, 10:54:53 PM
Salah can sprint with the Gods, 70m in 7 seconds on grass with boots and ball. Klopp likes a good runner.

Seen that stat doing the rounds. Not a hope in hell is that true. Sure the WR for 60m is 6.39s.

These stats for footballers are usually when they are in full flow, i.e their fastest 70m over a slightly longer distance. Therefore, not timed from a standing start so not impossible especially if that time is rounded down.
#498
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 20, 2017, 07:19:58 PM
Quote from: ned on June 20, 2017, 05:11:19 PM
Quote from: PAULD123 on June 20, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
Not sure I am being that dramatic at all Ned. Northern Ireland is on the brink of collapse. We constantly live life on a political knife edge and right now with the extremer parties gaining all the power, a huge sectarian event is the last thing we need. You don't live here do you? Have you ever lived in northern Ireland?

I'm originally from the north, moved away 20 years ago. Coincidentally just as the troubles were coming to an 'end'. Oops, should have moved sooner. I'm not that far out of the loop but not living there doesn't give me first hand knowledge of the situation. However, a football match is unlikely to have a bearing on future political ramifications.

http://thesefootballtimes.co/2015/09/28/zvonimir-boban-and-the-kick-that-started-a-war/

Very good. Slightly different scenario! I wasn't talking about any football match, it is this specific potential match I was referring to.
#499
Quote from: PAULD123 on June 20, 2017, 03:30:27 PM
Not sure I am being that dramatic at all Ned. Northern Ireland is on the brink of collapse. We constantly live life on a political knife edge and right now with the extremer parties gaining all the power, a huge sectarian event is the last thing we need. You don't live here do you? Have you ever lived in northern Ireland?

I'm originally from the north, moved away 20 years ago. Coincidentally just as the troubles were coming to an 'end'. Oops, should have moved sooner. I'm not that far out of the loop but not living there doesn't give me first hand knowledge of the situation. However, a football match is unlikely to have a bearing on future political ramifications.
#500
Quote from: PAULD123 on June 20, 2017, 12:18:43 PM
Linfield have said that it will NOT be on the 12th. Also have said that they expect it to be on 11th around 5pm in Belfast and that Celtic have not complained about that.

The big problem for Linfield is that a first leg in Belfast is a huge money spinner. But if they reverse the fixture and take a hammering in Glasgow then the second leg in Belfast lacks TV interest and become a dead rubber. There is no suitable neutral venue because they already play at the national stadium. Meaning Dublin is the only alternative venue and there is no way the Linfield or supporters would be willing to go to Landsdowne Road. Also do Celtic want six thousand orangemen descending on Parkhead on the 12th of July?

I wish this match hadn't been drawn. NI is in a precarious state at the moment with this DUP-Tory deal and the lack of a Stormont assembly. Secatraianism is the last thing we need right now. How happy would a Dundalk v Celtic event have been???

I would not be surprised if the vicious fervor of Linfield fans results in then being banned by UEFA when they unleash sectarian hell in front of the continents TV cameras. If there is any positive to be taken it may raise a  question over the whole 12th celebration itself and its immoral nature.

I don't doubt the vileness of the Linfield support, much like their Glasgow cousins. However, you seem to be jumping to a lot of conclusions there. The San Marino team might just have a say in matters. You are also being a tad melodramatic with regards the influence of this potential match on political goings on.
#501
Quote from: tonto1888 on June 19, 2017, 12:29:26 PM
even if they do, No club from the 06 is allowed to play football in the 06 on the twelfth  apparently - that's from someone who posts on Kerrydale Street

No way would any sane Celtic fan want to be anywhere near Belfast on the 12th.
It won't be on the 12th anyway.
#502
Quote from: mrdeeds on June 18, 2017, 11:44:40 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on June 18, 2017, 11:39:40 PM
McGinley pulled off some great scores but it drives me mad when a player shoots high in a one on one position. Cavanagh and Brennan should have slid their attempts along the ground. If we can start burying a higher percentage of our goal chances then I think we really have a genuine chance at an AI.

Annoys me when a commentator makes a standard save into an act of phyics defiance.

You can almost hear the commentators brain kicking into reverse when he sees the replay! But nah, I'll just keep with my original wrong analysis.
On the shooting, Monaghan's McManus is brilliant in those one on one situations. Always seems to go low.
#503
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 14, 2017, 07:19:51 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 14, 2017, 06:10:11 AM
I am merely pointing out the fallacy of the statement "Northern catholics have no representation at Westminster".Sure didn't Paisley used to boast that he always had a sizeable catholic vote in his constituency due to his reputation for representation?

That is utter bollocks. There is no doubt Paisley got things done that benefitied everyone but he was the cause of more problems than solutions.
#504
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 13, 2017, 01:37:33 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2017, 01:21:51 PM
Quote from: Hardy on June 13, 2017, 11:14:46 AM
Quote from: Orior on June 13, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Hardy on June 13, 2017, 09:39:37 AM
Lord Buckethead

"The uploader has not made this video available in your country."

Dammit. Do you watch these things on the dark internet?

This one works in the United Kingdom of Tory and DUP.

Soon to be renamed the United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Dalriada.

Or United Kingdom of England, Scotland, Wales and Dalriada minus Glens of Antrim and West Belfast
#505
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 11, 2017, 03:44:16 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on June 11, 2017, 03:33:49 PM
Sectarian differences in the north are being diluted slowly.??

Wrong there are more entrenched now than they ever been,

Not my experience. There is much more integration. It's slow and might take 50 more years for the old guard/divisions to disappear but it will happen. The DUP and SF dont really represent the norm but people keep voting for them. It will come to pass that an alternative will be to the fore. Perhaps the unmasking of the DUP over the next few weeks will be the start of the end?
#506
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 11, 2017, 02:53:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on June 11, 2017, 02:36:32 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 11, 2017, 01:03:03 PM
I no longer vote on tribal lines but for candidate (s) who I agree with and who have a track record.

My preference would be for an independent Northern state,if economically viable ultimately,devoid of  toxic,bizarre and irrational allegiances to the British or 26 county states,which has brought about nothing but misery and division.

If there is an independent Northern state, will it make any difference? Changing it's name will mean nothing. Assuming it would be governed from Stormont, it will still be the same as it's been since 98. Two main parties working with polar opposite agendas. This whole place is a cesspit, always was and will be.

I suggest all nationalists and all unionists meet in a neutral venue and bate the shite out of each other. Last side standing gets to keep the place. The other has to leave. Yes, it's a mental suggestion but it would sort this place out once and for all. No other method has worked. Or ever will work. Irish and British governments agree to house the losers.

There is a change happening, however gradually. Sectarian differences in the north are being diluted slowly. Whether this leads to a united Ireland or not I don't know. However, the changes occurring are only for the better.
#507
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 10, 2017, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 10, 2017, 01:29:50 PM
Really Ned? Today's UK Times has her mentioned as future leader / being parachuted into cabinet - eventhough she is not an MP after her recent performances. May was told to stay away from Scotland and Davidson was the face and drive behind the campaign. To say she was floundering defies belief tbh, dealing with the fallout from May's disastrous campaign may have caused her some discomfort but nothing more. She has revived the Tories in Scotland.

The Times? Great source of balanced reporting.
Davidson was not the reason for torys doing well. I can guarantee when the next GE comes they will lose half those seats. Just like unionist pacts in the north, the other three parties in Scotland ganged up against the SNP. Local election bumpf here contained little about policy but lots about Sturgeon and inyref2. It was a negative campaign, a kind of 'Scotland says no' vibe. May also appeared in Scotland at least twice, she was definitely front and prominent not hidden away. Davidson may be a decent politician but she certainly came across as a poor one from what I saw and heard. As I say perhaps she didn't have the conviction in the central party policies. It's difficult to be passionate about something you don't believe in.
The SNP are probably where they should be in terms of MPs and perhaps slightly ahead. Everyone appears to forget that they had 6 MPs prior to 2015.
#508
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 10, 2017, 12:24:11 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on June 10, 2017, 09:20:11 AM
An interesting one is lgbti rights. the scottish coservative leader - who is a very good politician and probably bailed the tories out- is a lesbain and has been questioning may on lgbti rights. She wants to use this coalition to further lgbti rights in the north.

If they further those rights the dup will not look good to it's voters and if they won't further them it won't look good for the tories.

Either way this particular scenario is illustrative of what conniving sellouts they both are!

Davidson is not a good politician. Torys did so well in Scotland because of a unionist 'pact'. Anybody but SNP was the mantra. Sound familiar? When she was questioned closely about policy she was floundering. So either she is a poor politician or she has no belief in what her party stands for.
#509
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 09, 2017, 07:16:59 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2017, 06:59:00 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 09, 2017, 05:52:16 PM
Yellowcarcd,I used to think like you,but then I considered that successive Dublin governments have shafted the northern community into which I was born repeatedly,and even today it won't countenance a border poll.Furthermore the DUP is no more corrupt than the ruling parties in Dublin,and I don't even know what a Unitec Ireland would look like,particularly economically.

I have no attachment for Unionism,instead I am now convinced that there is a unique N Irish culture and way of life that is separate and distinct from both the South of Ireland and also from England,Wales and Scotland.

In short unrequited allegiance to London and Dublin,neither of whom understands nor wants us,is the thing that divides and tribalises us all,and is totally irrational.

Maybe I picked you up wrong initially then.

So in the interest of clarity then, your political aspiration is what, an independent northern state? If so would The Alliance Party or possibly the Green Party not be a better fit for you.

The rest of your post is just plain daft and I'm not going to waste time arguing over. A 'unique N Irish culture' though, that did make me laugh!!

The DUP's moral compass is on a par with Tony's right enough so he probably has more in common with their policies than with any other party. Southern USA fundamentalist christian type ideology.
#510
General discussion / Re: UK General Election 2017
June 09, 2017, 11:55:26 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2017, 11:30:25 AM
Quote from: ned on June 09, 2017, 11:23:49 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 09, 2017, 10:07:11 AM
Ironically the conservatives have been returned to Westminster by Scotland voting for Tories. So working class Scotland have kept them in power.

Patently wrong. The torys have got the numbers due to the English vote as ever. Again their percentage vote in Scotland is lower than what they get in England or Wales. 12 MPs in Scotland only contributes to their numbers.

How is it patently wrong? Got 13 seats in working class Scotland which has given them the numbers they require to form a government. It has to be the hard core Scottish Unionist vote putting constitutional issues before economic policies that got them those seats. It's economic suicide for Scottish voters to vote for the Tories and tipped the balance of power towards them enabling them to put together a government.

The torys were returned due to their overall UK vote, the Scottish unionists vote CONTRIBUTED. It was not solely down to Scotland. The tory voting northern English contributed as much.
Not sure how you lay the blame on the working class. Do you have a break down of figures or an intimate knowledge of the voter types in scotland. The torys won in mainly rural areas. What does that tell you?