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Idiot you are.  It was colin Holmes who threw the first punch... blaming Ricey like that.

It was McMenamin up to the left hand side of the Tyrone goal mouth.

Theres no need for insults - you only make yourself look stupid.

If some of the gobshites on this forum,who so passionately hate the Dubs, put the same effort into their local clubs as they do spreading their hate-filled bile, the GAA would be a far stronger association.

Former Dublin player / panalist Tómas Mulligan passed away last night ( Aged 30 )

Tómas played most of his Football and Hurling with Good Counsel in Drimnagh and more recently with Ballinteer St. Johns and Round towers.

Puts the goading and banter in perspective.

Think he played midfield for the Dubs around Tommy Carr's time.

He played as a forward under T Lyons in 2003.

He had played a match at the weekend and all seemed fine.

Lads - did Pillar assualt that old man or not ? Yes or no ?? Did he get suspended for it ? And then you went and hit the Mayo female nutritionist on the head and knocked her out - I suppose in Pillar's mind, she was a " legitimate target " as well.

I seriously hope that you have a big tongue stuck in your cheek, and that you don't actually believe what you are writing.

Myth no 1 - Dublin started the Battle of Omagh - no, McMenamin started it when he punched Derek Murray
Myth no 2 - Dublin knocked out a Mayo nutrionist - bollox - Alan Brogan accidentally hit her with a ball when she decided her presence was required in the area Dublin had been designated to warm up in
Myth no 3 - Pillar 'assaulted' John Morrison who was minding his own business - Pillar shouldered Morrision in the back defending a member of his backroom team who was being roared at by the three Ulster mercenaries.

Have any interest in the GAA besides your morbid un-informed bias against Dublin?

Heffo - this was the biggest sporting specatacle that on that weekend last year - and your manager went out and hit an old man who was minding his own business - was this sensible - Pillar showed himself up that day to be a wolf in sheeps clothing and the veil dropped for good that day. Any resepct he had was lost with that "shoulder" charge - straight out the Garda crowd control text book.

Minding his own business? Are you for real? Him and his fellow mercenary in crime were roaring abuse at the Dublin medic - the picture was all over the papers the next morning

Have you got some morbid obsession with Dublin or something?

Pillar sent the troops out to do battle that day from the first whilstle as he had decided that the only way to win an AI was by historic, barbaric and stoneage methods of coaching - soften them up and you'll beat them in the end. It doesn't work - but for the negativity I'd love to see Dublin win the AI  - they have the players but under the current management set up, they haven't the temparament.
For God's sake, Jayo has been turned into a anaimal - roaring and shouting - this isn't Jayo - Jayo is a nice decent lad but he let himself down y'day. Why ? Cos he has been told to go out and behave in this manner. I bet you he feels that he made an idiiot out of himself y'day. Deep down. Even though few Dubs will admit this - this is the truth.

Bollox - the bad vibes had started from the league game in Healy Park the previous year, when Tyrone engaged in all sorts of antics to get an edge

Dressing rooms locked, cold water, stewards/thugs shadowing Dublin mentors and plenty of other crap.

Do you deny or accept that McMenamin threw the first punch?

Will Pillar be retained - do the Dubs fans want a change or do they enjoy all this carp every Sunday - the battle of Omagh was the start of it - started by a faily civil lad whose personality has been changed for the worse - Alan Brogan. Pillar set his stall out that day and decided that Dublin needed a nasty mean streak -

I think Dublin have great footballers who can win an AI but not with Pillar and not with these negative directions.

Pillar has been offered another year.

Check your facts re "Battle of Omagh" - the first incident in that game was when a free was awarded to Dublin after a cynical foul and McMenamin ran in & punched Derek Murray - check the video

Good to se you condone a member of the Garda commit an assault on an old man !!!! I'm shocked that you can agree that it was ok for your manager to hit another manager - why was he not suspended for the assault ?  That's why you're winning nothing - concentrate on the football and the AI will come - if you keep Caffrey and his stoneage ideas, you're going no where. Get a new manager and not one that is just blood and guts !

Talk of assault from an Armagh man is a bit rich.

He hit him a shoulder.

Keep Pillar as manager No way kick the whole lot of them out and get somebody decent in ? This is the member of the Garda who assaulted John Morrison in last years semi final isn't it ?? And they got what they deserved in that game too - their dung home in a bag !!!!! Long may they reign !

Pillar has been offered another year.

Pillar was dead right to what he did last year - Mayo were designated the Canal end to warm up and knew what they were doing.

Moran, Morrison and some other mercenary were roaring abuse into the face if the Dublin medic and Pillar stood up for a member of his backroom team.

The bitterness on this site is unbelievable.

The tone of a lot of these threads shows the anti-Dublin bias out there.

Congrats to Kerry, deserved winners.

Question not aimed at you heffo, to the best of my knowledge you haven't been running about the place calling people scumbags and claiming that u wouldn't find the Dubs doing similar. Although you have been mixing the sublime with the ridiculous with one or two factual posts thrown in.

The difference is that O'Leary punched Geraghty to gain an advantage when there wasn't any apparent provocation.

TV didn't show us what transpired before the punch or were u sitting beside Pillar and his young lad in the Hogan Stand???

No, I wasn't at the Cork v Meath game and I didn't see what happened off-camera, hence my 'apparent' preface to my comment. I don't know what happened between them, but O'Leary has form in this regard (GG does as well, but I think he get's a lot of bad press and for every punch he's thrown, he's probably been on the receiving end of three or four, same as Ciaran Whelan)

What has happened to David Shuaghnessy (?) played corner back a few years ago.  Thought he'd be there for a long time.

Rumour has it he had a falling out with the manager .
Really looking forward to this , am quietly confident 

Sorry got my wires crossed.

Stephen O'Shaugnessy asked Pillar in January if he could go on holiday, Pillar told him vaguely that he could if he wanted, he's been frozen out ever since.

What gives you the right to call Noel O'Leary a sc**bag? I'd reckon he's a grand fella.

If some of the Dubs did that to Geraghty you'd be cheering or in a very silent minority so save us the feigned outrage.

first of all only a sc**bag would just punch a man in the face when he isn't expecting it.

And secondly you don't see dublin players do this type of stuff!

I'll repeat me earlier question Tankie, here's the clip: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_c1zd88vs

"So by that logic Ciaran Whelan is a sc**bag for elbowing David Mitchell in the face when he wasn't expecting it? Agree or disagree???"

sure the ref was standing right beside him and he saw nothing wrong with it, and obviously the CCC saw nothing wrong with it what so what do you want me to say. Sure whelo was rugby tackled to the ground so under GAA thinking its ok to retaliate. it wasnt even an elbow more of a shoulder.

Sure my point of this whole thing was thistype of carry on sould be cut out by the GAA handing out bans, can any disagree that O'Leary should not be banned?

Ur "point" was that O'Leary was a "sc**bag" for punching "a man in the face when he isn't expecting it". My question to you (and it's a yes or no answer) is " Ciaran Whelan is a sc**bag for elbowing David Mitchell in the face when he wasn't expecting it?"

The difference is that O'Leary punched Geraghty to gain an advantage when there wasn't any apparent provocation.

Mitchell was acting the bollox for the ten minutes he was on the pitch leading up to that and had taken Whelan out of it late again - Whelan deserved to go for it, but he wasn't a sc**bag for retaliating.

Thats the difference

What has happened to David Shuaghnessy (?) played corner back a few years ago.  Thought he'd be there for a long time.

If you mean David O'Shaughnessy, he's a midfielder  - can't recall him ever playing corner back

What gives you the right to call Noel O'Leary a sc**bag? I'd reckon he's a grand fella.

If some of the Dubs did that to Geraghty you'd be cheering or in a very silent minority so save us the feigned outrage.

first of all only a sc**bag would just punch a man in the face when he isn't expecting it.

And secondly you don't see dublin players do this type of stuff!

I'll repeat me earlier question Tankie, here's the clip: http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=NV_c1zd88vs

"So by that logic Ciaran Whelan is a sc**bag for elbowing David Mitchell in the face when he wasn't expecting it? Agree or disagree???"

I never saw that footage before. Did Whelan get punished for that? He could have done some serious damage?

They were both booked - Whelan & Mitchell