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The King of Sweden is a ceremonial role. He has little to no power. For him to say it was a failure, may be true....but he also faces no backlash, as a result he is probably a kind face to deliver bad news.

With regards to Sweden, we've all seen multiple graphs on them by people with various agendas either for, or against their model. The Swedes have suffered 11k deaths on their policy of keeping everything open....11k is still 11k.

A quick search shows us they have 10.23 million, they have 11,005 deaths and total 547k cases.

Basic numbers, they look to have fatality rate of 0.1%. Not really a massive failure on this. But again, 11k deaths, is 11k deaths which were directly responsible to their policy and as a result can only be labelled a failure.

Sweden seems to follow the "popular" trend of this thing taking out about 0.1% of known cases. Would that be accurate?

Swedn has seen more cases/deaths than any of their nordic neighbours. Depending on which nordic country you compare sweden to their deaths per million of population was between 4.5 and 10 times higher.

I've no dog in the fight with Sweden to be honest, I just am bringing in the political significance of their King stating it was a failure. Looks like he done a turn for the Government with that.

Of course, by nature of staying open their numbers will be bigger, they are a bigger country with more cities especially....But if you didn't know Sweden kept it open, you wouldn't exactly be screaming monsters....complete failures either. Their figures are relatively "acceptable" I would say, considering.

The King of Sweden is a ceremonial role. He has little to no power. For him to say it was a failure, may be true....but he also faces no backlash, as a result he is probably a kind face to deliver bad news.

With regards to Sweden, we've all seen multiple graphs on them by people with various agendas either for, or against their model. The Swedes have suffered 11k deaths on their policy of keeping everything open....11k is still 11k.

A quick search shows us they have 10.23 million, they have 11,005 deaths and total 547k cases.

Basic numbers, they look to have fatality rate of 0.1%. Not really a massive failure on this. But again, 11k deaths, is 11k deaths which were directly responsible to their policy and as a result can only be labelled a failure.

Sweden seems to follow the "popular" trend of this thing taking out about 0.1% of known cases. Would that be accurate?

I think back to all the claims that Tyrone wouldn't be able to keep their run going when they arrived on the scene due to the high intensity that they played with, is the same possibly going to happen with Liverpool?  Is there a pattern emerging with Klopp sides?  Took a few years to get Dortmund to the top but then they started to tumble.

Its a season quite literally like no other. Very little pre season or rest. One season merged into another. It's been trial and error.

Liverpools game stripped back...is based on intensity, it's hard to ask that every 3 days really. They've had injuries but that's what I meant a few pages ago when there was calls for Pep to be sacked, Lampard.....Mourinho went through a month without a win. It's a strange, strange season. You have to forgive clubs for not cracking the code when it's been thrust on them but it has led to the most interesting midway point we could imagine.

Lampard obviously was learning on the job but outside factors are massive. Is Klopp only a 5 point manager better than Lampard? Absolutely not, but that's the way the table sits right now. They are all getting it tough, the league winner this year will possibly be the record lowest points.

They're handing back money every year. You couldn't make it up.

"Save the NHS"

Bojo now saying that they are going to take a look at lifting some restrictions as early as the 15th of February
You actually could not make this stuff up
Was Easter only 2 days ago now it's 2 weeks and some stuff may be lifted

Smurfy, that is Boris Johnson in a nutshell. Bumbling from one disaster to clutching at a success.

I really don't know if he is ridiculously intelligent, or ridiculously stupid yet.

He, more than the Irish....needs his people on side, England is a mess.

Think you have bigger problems Sid, Klopp looks to be the next useless manager in this thread.

Sure Lampard is gone now then.

Who is next? Someone needs to be sacked.

Yet you are in the UFC thread reading?

Say what you want about Conor but he has taken all his defeats and his victories for that matter with humility.

This is spot on, despite his behaviour before fights etc. Leads me to believe, deep, deep down there is a somewhat decent human there. Despite all the ahem....rumours.

Cut throat from Chelsea. They don't mess around.

Tuchel is the next in. They actually aren't all that far behind....new manager bounce....they couldn't, could they?

Mo's singing got him off light enough in the end. He'll be free for his 32nd or 33rd birthday.

See a small article in today's  UK Times - 'Absence of flu admissions puzzles doctors'. Important bits:
- No UK admissions in first 2 weeks of January
- trend echoed in other parts of world
- in Japan there were 1,000 flu patients in 2nd week of January compared with 800,000 over the same period last year.

WHO stated "This is an extremely puzzling phenomenon. We're in a historic unbelievable situation."

Ach look we know what's going on there but it just leads to a flu v covid war on here. Clearly the flu is being recorded as Covid...whilst they are different, they have crossover symptoms.

Alot of people just are afraid to go near hospitals right now....rightly or wrongly, they are saying nothing and getting on with it.

Can we not just say that the flu hasn't caught on because the transmission of the flu is harder to catch that covid and that we are isolating (certainly the elderly) a lot better than ever before? I would have thought that was a standard enough to work out

Its been talked about but I don't see how you can confuse the testing for Covid for flu... Unless covid is flu with a much higher load strain, but that would mean that the WHO, and all other bodies got this wrong, meaning, Angelo was right all this time lol

Ah look I've no idea, but in fairness to Angelo. The Flu hasn't just vanished either. Someone who knows alot more about this type of thing can comment but it does seem.....bizarre.

I was only messing but they have a big problem with the Jews in the states, it runs rampant through that community. They aren't too open to the ideas of social distancing and gatherings. There were many instances in New York during the initial surge they completely ignored it.

I read the article, windows covered etc.....I mean if you didn't laugh you would cry. In a school too, unbelievable.

In instances like this, you'd be in a sweat shop working for Nike in China. Here you are fined a few quid....to some people financial sanction isn't a deterrent. I'd like to be in their shoes, but.....Will it put off the next wealthy family who will 'only' get fined 10k?

This is what we're up against

Covid: 400-person wedding party in Stamford Hill broken up by police

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55764673

Them oul jews up to no good again!

What's the thoughts on this?

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40211579.html

None, he's finished and was finished for about 4 years before that.

He won 2 all stars in the last 4 years?

Don't let that fact get in the way of anything 

Rewatch the 2017 final v Dublin. I think Cavanagh got an All Star that year too. Dublin went after him, at every single opportunity and he was destroyed. Those oles are still in my mind. You don't forget that kind of embarrassing easily.

He retired, the ship is going in a new direction. Exciting times with a youthful set up. No need for him back unless he's happy to be a last 15, helping see a game out man. In which case, of course, why not - But I don't see Cavanagh being happy as a bit part player somehow. He can't start, Christ could you imagine Fenton running at him now?