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its a lot more than 25% down to Fergies skills as a manager i think

having said that though, its not broadcasted as much as other clubs how much United have spent down through the years

Missed this over the weekend, Benitez getting a dig in -

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/968870/rafa-benitez:-sir-alex-ferguson's-man-utd-success-down-to-money?cc=5739

i watched every minute of every match and was down at macedonia and russia

it did slip my mind about the WC qualifying draw, i will admit 

[To get us 2nd again is a very good achievement and we'll now be 2nd seeds in the WC Qualifying campaign, when Trap took over we were 4th seeds.]

A lot of lads on here posting, i would say several of you watched Iireland for the first time last night since Paris maybe?

Trap has obviously sacrificed an entertaining side for one that gets results and is hard to break down, for me i accept that. Yesterday was our first goal conceded in 9 games. In those 9 games we won the carling nations cup, beat Italy in Italy and got 2nd place in the EC group. Lets be honest, we have some very average players. To get us 2nd again is a very good achievement and we'll now be 2nd seeds in the WC Qualifying campaign, when Trap took over we were 4th seeds. My one main gripe with Trap is his refusal to give youth a chance, Coleman, McCarthy, Long etc. But he's obviously a very loyal man and if you mess him about your in his bad books.

McGeady whos getting lots of abuse, granted was very poor last night, but in this group so far he's been one of our best players - Away to Slovakia, Home to Macedonia, Away to Andorra. He is frustrating but is capable of the moment of class that brought about the winning goal last night, thats why he's on the team

Have we ever finished top of a group? and under Charlton (who had much better players to work with) we were equally as dull to watch, but it was the results that counted. International football is far from entertaining lads

Roll on the play offs

The draw has already taken place for the World Cup 2014 qualifying,we were 3rd seeds.

F**k so it has....i read the other day that we were 2nd seeds now going on our fifa ranking and results in this group, must be for the campaign after that 

A lot of lads on here posting, i would say several of you watched Iireland for the first time last night since Paris maybe?

Trap has obviously sacrificed an entertaining side for one that gets results and is hard to break down, for me i accept that. Yesterday was our first goal conceded in 9 games. In those 9 games we won the carling nations cup, beat Italy in Italy and got 2nd place in the EC group. Lets be honest, we have some very average players. To get us 2nd again is a very good achievement and we'll now be 2nd seeds in the WC Qualifying campaign, when Trap took over we were 4th seeds. My one main gripe with Trap is his refusal to give youth a chance, Coleman, McCarthy, Long etc. But he's obviously a very loyal man and if you mess him about your in his bad books.

McGeady whos getting lots of abuse, granted was very poor last night, but in this group so far he's been one of our best players - Away to Slovakia, Home to Macedonia, Away to Andorra. He is frustrating but is capable of the moment of class that brought about the winning goal last night, thats why he's on the team

Have we ever finished top of a group? and under Charlton (who had much better players to work with) we were equally as dull to watch, but it was the results that counted. International football is far from entertaining lads

Roll on the play offs

I dont think we ever stood a chance in this group considering the quality in the squad and our appalling away record. I think it should be used to help find a settled and best XI, Mulgrew and Dan last night at centre back looked solid and should be a basis to build on and given a run of games together. Bangura looks a decent foil for Hooper or Stokes, big and pacey, he just needs to get a few goals now.

Lennon needs to completely forget Samaras and Loovens and ship them out as soon as he can. Neither will ever be good enough to wear the hoops and Samaras coming on last night cost Celtic the match i thought. Its as if he's trying to prove a point with him

City officials to pay respect at Munich crash site    http://www.football365.com/news/21554/7204735/Man-City-To-Lay-Wreath-At-Munich-Crash-Site

Classy of them...as least they've moved on from calling United Munichs in their official club programme.

have u a link to City doing that?

i was at the 50th anniversary commemoration derby match a few years ago and City fans were classy that day, observed the minutes silence perfectly and contributed to the commemoration very well

[they spend half there time doing things trying to annoy united..classless crowd of w**kers.]

City really are a joke..they spend half there time doing things trying to annoy united..classless crowd of w**kers....I'd rather see Liverpool win the treble than see them win a single trophy

On a personal level I'd wish Hargreaves all the best because after the 3 years he's had he deserves it no matter who he's playing for

what like? having a famous banner at their ground poking fun at their rivals?
Oh wait.....that was the holier than thou Man United

FFS wise up.

You could say the Michael Owen signing was mainly to get one over Liverpool, if you were as paranoid as you

Seems a decent fella, but by god he is irritating and cringeworthy behind a microphone.

agree with the fella who said a few posts ago that he never takes a pause or breath during his sentences. an example of his commentary would be something like - big Packie McConnell now Big Packie lays it out to Ricey McMenamin, Ricey onto the Block Gormley and the Block Gormley onto Hub Hughes, Kevin Hub Hughes finds Brian Dooher, Brian Dooher now onto Mugsy Mulligan, and Muuuuggggsssy Muuuuligan thats a superb point for Tyrone

point im trying to make is he always has to say each players name twice, so he's talking constantly when theyre on the ball and overuses their nicknames ridiculously

Only Lennon and his family know that and only they are in the position to decide
He certainly shouldnt be getting criticism for trying to ignore the threats and get on with his job

It gets better, Lennon should move to France due to the bigoted knuckledraggers not liking him!!

i apologise for the personal abuse, but as someone who follows scottish football closely a lot of what was written was wide of the mark

also, i dont think Lennons ability as a manager should be a talking point. Its irrelevant to the campaign against him by the bigots

Pat Nevin was asked on the radio this morning what can be done to stop the attacks on Lennon, his answer was for both sides to stop singing sectarian songs

Its always a joint 'Old Firm' problem when Celtic are the victims, sure look what the outcome was of the 'shame game' earlier in the year. Its ludicrous

pundits and commentators in Scotland are afraid to say what the real problem is, that Scotland is a country thats rotten to the core with anti-irish/catholic bigotry.

Just happen to flick on the game last night a few minutes before the incident occured, got me thinking about lennon and what type of persona he has or is trying to portray.
1. These is no doubt (IMO) his demeanour does bring some of the trouble down on himself
2. He is one selfish man if he's happy to put his family through this orderal for the sake of his celtic iconic status
3. He's not that good of a manager when a he can't break the stranglehold of a near bankrupt club in a 8 -10 th rate european league.
4. is he trying to make himself into some type of martyr ala ML King or Malcom X. lot of talk last night saying what a shame it would be if he walked away. What's he going to prove by staying ?

I have loads of sympathy for him and his family but all he need do walk away and enjoy some normality elsewhere

Your some p***k. Typical comments from someone who'd i would say knows f**k all about the situation or scottish football in general

So basically your blaming Lennon for all that happened last night, as per usual? his persona brings it on? what do you want him to do, get a new face??

as for point 3 there - Can you remember the complete mess that Celtic were in last year, Lennon has improved the club greatly this season. The very fact that band-wagon jumpers (like yourself probably) are taking an interest in Celtic again this season is probably proof of that

The media/SFA have whipped up an hysteria against lennon for the past year, they've to take some of the blame IMO, a good manager is going to be forced out of his job.

Can anyone tell me what exactly he has done to deserve all this? hold his ears? square up to Sally McCoist? Complain about a Celtic player being sent off earlier in the year? Are these incidents now deserving of living a life in fear

Boosabum says he should quit and let the hate-filled bigots have their way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g1TF_ToepY

nail on the head from prof Tom Devine in the second part of this report