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Have Donegal just not bothered turning up? Cavan seem to be a good outfit and justified favourites

From the commentary I'd say they are just being outclassed. Can't seen to win anything at MF.

Getting our arses handed to us!

The gamble with McHugh didn't work out either. He was obviously not fit to start.

Have Donegal just not bothered turning up? Cavan seem to be a good outfit and justified favourites

From the commentary I'd say they are just being outclassed. Can't seen to win anything at MF.

Men against boys stuff by the sounds of it 

As a neutral from Tyrone who obviously see Donegal as the new rivals on the block, I am shocked how many of ye on here are suspecting Donegal here of telling lies.

The lad definitely had at least a bruise and if they used the word bite then they must know it would look bad on them if that turned out to be a lie.
They reported it to the ref and to the Dublin doctor but just not to the media yet so why are ye all so doubting that it ever happened.

The doubt arises because the Donegal county secretary, Aodh Mairtin O'Fearraigh, confirmed to the Donegal Democrat that McBrearty was treated at Letterkenny General Hospital for a laceration of his shoulder.

His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise.

Nobody is doubting he has a bruise, but there's definitely an element of exaggeration that's going on, the question is how much of an exaggeration. Anyone with a Dublin bias is going to assume there was gross exaggeration, unless/until Donegal come up with better evidence.

Where is the exaggeration? The lad was bitten and all you can focus on is the terminology that different journalists have used to describe it? Show me the quotes from the Donegal camp using these different terms. Shameful nitpicking going on here as an excuse to avoid the heart of the problem.

I tell you what's ironic. Ulster lads playing the poor mouth when it comes to dirtbird tactics.

You pioneered most of it for the last decade!

When it comes to discussing Gallagher and the rest of what Donegal get up to- you don't want to know.

Nobody from dublin is brushing anything under the carpet.. We just want to see the evidence.

As I see. If you open the discussion out to the whole of Ulster and talk about "dirtbird" tactics, it will further serve to take focus away from the alleged biting incident?

Any evidence (if it exists) will be provided to the authorities. Are you looking for the evidence to be published by Donegal or something? Who would be served by that?

I think you could at least accept Hound has a point. You asked for evidence he provided it, so you go marching down a different route on your high horse.

I can't understand why the Dublin management and/or county board were not informed of the allegation at half time or full time.

What is the Dublin doctor supposed to do/say. Can just see him standing in the middle of Donegal dressing room when he is told of this acqusation. Wouldn't want to do/say anything just get out of there.

To have Donegal reveal the allegation to the media first is a petty act which frankly brings moree attention to Dublin, Donegal & the player involved. Will only lead to bad blood & bad relations in the future.

I haven't seen Hound's point made yet. He said that "His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise" and I just want to understand where he is coming from.

If the only issue to discuss Aodh's use of the word laceration when it was not the right word to use ... well I'll give you that one if it makes anyone feel better.

Why would Donegal have gone to Dublin with their complaint? How exactly would that work? The correct authority to report it to is the ref and that's what was done. Don't see what the issue is there.

I agree that the Dublin doctor was probably in a difficult situation and maybe would wish that he had never gone to see the injury/scrape/ bruise/laceration/ mark or whatever it was.

Donegal didn't reveal anything to the media first. They reported it to the ref at half time. I'd look forward to a meeting between the 2 teams and I don't agree that there would be bad blood.

As a neutral from Tyrone who obviously see Donegal as the new rivals on the block, I am shocked how many of ye on here are suspecting Donegal here of telling lies.

The lad definitely had at least a bruise and if they used the word bite then they must know it would look bad on them if that turned out to be a lie.
They reported it to the ref and to the Dublin doctor but just not to the media yet so why are ye all so doubting that it ever happened.

The doubt arises because the Donegal county secretary, Aodh Mairtin O'Fearraigh, confirmed to the Donegal Democrat that McBrearty was treated at Letterkenny General Hospital for a laceration of his shoulder.

His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise.

Nobody is doubting he has a bruise, but there's definitely an element of exaggeration that's going on, the question is how much of an exaggeration. Anyone with a Dublin bias is going to assume there was gross exaggeration, unless/until Donegal come up with better evidence.

Where is the exaggeration? The lad was bitten and all you can focus on is the terminology that different journalists have used to describe it? Show me the quotes from the Donegal camp using these different terms. Shameful nitpicking going on here as an excuse to avoid the heart of the problem.

That's absolute bullshit.
Nobody from Dublin has used any excuse.

As to your question "where is the exaggeration"? The reporter is on record as saying he asked O'Fearraigh was a laceration an accuarate description of the injury. To which O'Fearraigh outright lied and said Yes.

There is the exaggeraton.

What reporter and what record. Stick up a link if you don't mind.

And why would using the term laceration necessarily be an exaggeration? You have accused O'Fearraigh of lying. Explain the lie please.

Here's the report:
http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/sport/local-sport/mcbrearty-injury-annoys-officials-1-4974471

The reporter was on Newstalk saying he talked to O'Fearraigh to confirm the laceration point as well as everything else in the report, which is why he used his name as his source of the story.

Yes, O'Fearraigh told a lie/fib and thus exaggerated the story. There was no laceration. Hence you won't have seen the word used in any report since Monday. I'm sure he'd recant if asked (and perhaps already has).

Thanks for the link.
If all you are hanging your coat on is the (potentially) incorrect use of the word laceration then I don't know what to say. And how has the "His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise". Was the other terminology not used by Dublin rather than Donegal?

Why not focus on what caused the laceration / bruise / graze / etc? Or why the Donegal setup saw fit to report it to the ref at half time (when they were leading by 3 points)? Or why they saw fit to bring the Dublin doctor in to see it.

As I said above, to me this appears to be nitpicking in order to distract from the incident itself.

As a neutral from Tyrone who obviously see Donegal as the new rivals on the block, I am shocked how many of ye on here are suspecting Donegal here of telling lies.

The lad definitely had at least a bruise and if they used the word bite then they must know it would look bad on them if that turned out to be a lie.
They reported it to the ref and to the Dublin doctor but just not to the media yet so why are ye all so doubting that it ever happened.

The doubt arises because the Donegal county secretary, Aodh Mairtin O'Fearraigh, confirmed to the Donegal Democrat that McBrearty was treated at Letterkenny General Hospital for a laceration of his shoulder.

His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise.

Nobody is doubting he has a bruise, but there's definitely an element of exaggeration that's going on, the question is how much of an exaggeration. Anyone with a Dublin bias is going to assume there was gross exaggeration, unless/until Donegal come up with better evidence.

Where is the exaggeration? The lad was bitten and all you can focus on is the terminology that different journalists have used to describe it? Show me the quotes from the Donegal camp using these different terms. Shameful nitpicking going on here as an excuse to avoid the heart of the problem.

That's absolute bullshit.
Nobody from Dublin has used any excuse.

As to your question "where is the exaggeration"? The reporter is on record as saying he asked O'Fearraigh was a laceration an accuarate description of the injury. To which O'Fearraigh outright lied and said Yes.

There is the exaggeraton.

What reporter and what record. Stick up a link if you don't mind.

And why would using the term laceration necessarily be an exaggeration? You have accused O'Fearraigh of lying. Explain the lie please.

As a neutral from Tyrone who obviously see Donegal as the new rivals on the block, I am shocked how many of ye on here are suspecting Donegal here of telling lies.

The lad definitely had at least a bruise and if they used the word bite then they must know it would look bad on them if that turned out to be a lie.
They reported it to the ref and to the Dublin doctor but just not to the media yet so why are ye all so doubting that it ever happened.

The doubt arises because the Donegal county secretary, Aodh Mairtin O'Fearraigh, confirmed to the Donegal Democrat that McBrearty was treated at Letterkenny General Hospital for a laceration of his shoulder.

His injury has moved from a laceration to a graze to a bruise.

Nobody is doubting he has a bruise, but there's definitely an element of exaggeration that's going on, the question is how much of an exaggeration. Anyone with a Dublin bias is going to assume there was gross exaggeration, unless/until Donegal come up with better evidence.

Where is the exaggeration? The lad was bitten and all you can focus on is the terminology that different journalists have used to describe it? Show me the quotes from the Donegal camp using these different terms. Shameful nitpicking going on here as an excuse to avoid the heart of the problem.

My guess is there was a bite, and if there was, then the Dublin player should be suspended for it.

But I also believe there was an element of "dramatic effect" with Donegal sending him to hospital get a bruise examined. There was no laceration, no blood, no stitching of the "wound".

Jesus you dubs are unreal. He was sent to the hospital to get a tetanus shot and antibiotics. Which I'd say is standard practice if someone is bitten by an animal.

Give me one reason why McBrearty would make this up?

The medical records (docs, hospital) should prove if it was a bite.

Exactly.

Hopefully. Hopefully we'll see them published too.

As I said already if a Dublin player is found to have done this I want a lengthy ban - if he hasn't there should be sanctions the other way.

If this is found to be untrue Donegal should have the book thrown at them.

If this is true I hope the Dublin management team move quickly to get rid of the sc**bag and don't try to engage in some sort of cover up.

The Dublin county Chairman has denied that the Dublin mgt or officials were informed and that the player in question had a bruise and not a bite mark.

Legs to run on this yet so..

How do they know it was a bruise if they weren't informed? The Dublin medical staff are obviously not categorised as Management or Officials.

Fairly simple to me.
Scenario 1: McBrearty made up the claim that he was bitten.
Scenario 2: McBrearty was bitten.

I can't see any reason why McBrearty would make it up.

Our teachers used to throw other students at us after giving them dusters and hammers to hold.

Terrible if it happened and if it did, whoever did it should get a very long ban. But is it just me that thinks someone from Donegal should put their name to this complaint? Not a single person quoted in either of the stories I've read about it. Without a quote it just comes across as hearsay.

What stories did you read? Sources included in the stories I've seen.
For example ...
http://donegalnews.com/2013/04/probe-to-be-launched-into-bite-claims/

UMFL FT Tyrone 2-13 Donegal 1-7

[Anyone got any pics of how the place looks now?]

It certainly gives them a good advantage nrico as being AI champs and with a passionate full house it certainly gives them a psychological edge I'd say.
Then of course if things aren't going there way early on it could lead to the opposite with fans getting frustrating and the players feeling the pressure.

When was the last time we met Donegal in Ballybofey in the first round? I've no recollection of any championship match in my time.

Anyone got any pics of how the place looks now?

Re parking in Omagh I was always lucky enough to come from the Gortin Rd side so had never to far to walk. I'm actually relieved this  match isn't in Omagh as I never liked 1st round games in Omagh.

Jesus lads, don't be expecting anything new! AFAIK it was only a bit of work on the terrace barriers and additional turnstiles.