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Unbelievable stuff in Rome...

Ireland have more wounded after that first half than after the Battle of Clontarf...

But Parisse after getting the bin and Jackson kicked the penalty 16 - 9

Still a chance...

Terrible decision for the red...

oh my sweet jaysus... what a utter mess...

And O'Gara almost looked like he was trying to kick pass the ball to one of his team mates a lá GAA style

ROG kicked 2 very good penalties and will be disappointed with the one he missed but from open play I thought he was shocking - so of his kicking was desperate, gave the chase no chance...

Madigan or Jackson have to be looked at?

Cavan 1-7 Antrim 0-7

What's left? Who got the goal?

[Cootehill Shamrocks]

Killeshandra Leaguers - Named after the land league movement

Cootehill Shamrocks - Named after one of Cromwells generals

Cootehill aren't known as Shamrocks - that's Bailieborough

Right Myles I'll bite - how is our club named after a Cromwellian General...

This should be good...

And FYI it's Cootehill Celtic GAA not Shamrocks or Celts

Anyone see Kevin Bacon's The Following on tonight? Wasn't entirely enjoying it at the start (I'm a fan of Criminal Minds where the serial killers are caught within the hour) but I'll def tune in next wk. Pretty intriguing.

Have it Sky +'ed - I'll let it build up before attacking it....

I've just finished The Borgias Season 2 over the weekend - absolutely top class! Great ending to it and Season 3 can't come quick enough

So Munster in and Leinster out...   Slightly disappointed for want of another word - even with their under-par group performances I think Leinster would have a better chance of winning it out than Munster...

However, how many times have Munster been written off before....

The Quarter Finals are:

Harlequins v Munster
Clermont v Montpellier
Toulon v Leicester
Saracens v Ulster

The winner of the first named quarter-final in each semi-final pairing will have home country advantage.

Semi-final 1: Saracens or Ulster Rugby v Toulon or Leicester Tigers
Semi-final 2: ASM Clermont Auvergne or Montpellier v Harlequins or Munster Rugby


Leinster into the Challenge Cup - I think Connacht need Leinster to win this competition out for them to get back into the Heineken Cup next year??

Sure people can still read it Itchy. Not everyone wanted to see Johnston gone, he was a good player for Cavan whatever about his attitude.

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Example from County Board of how it may work out in Senior Championship

Example of Senior Championship based on back door option with 17 teams            
            
   Preliminary Round 1   week 1   2 x 2    2 winners go through to first round proper
   Preliminary Round 2   week 2   1 x 1   play off between losers of week 1 - winner goes through to first round proper
   Round 1   week 3   8 x 2      8 winners (A) & 8 losers (B)
   Round 2   week 4   4 x 2 (A) + 4 x 2 (B)   4 winners (A) & 4 winners (B)
   Round 3   week 5   2 x 2 (A) + 2 x 2 (B)   2 winners (A) & 2 winners (B)
   Round 4   Week 6   A v B + A v B   Semi Final
   Round 5   Week 7      Final
            
   Note: Each round could potentially have a drawn game which will increase uncertainty around fixtures in MFP 

And they said that I'd never use algebra in real life after the Leaving Cert....

Ballymachugh were Intermediate last year anyway so they are just remaining the same as last year...

[Its replays that would f**k that up i think its good enough only for that.]

There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.

That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Its replays that would f**k that up i think its good enough only for that.


Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs

There is no relegation sure teams can now choose what championship they want to play in even if they did lose a relegation playoff.

Na sure that was only this year... Relegation from the 2012 League was meant to decide 2013 League & Championship but '12 League position only ended up deciding this year's League position hence the choice for those teams relegated could ask to be re-instated to their 2012 Championship Grade....  Makes sense now? 

I'd be fairly certain of there being Relegation from this season's Championship

The problem with the backdoor was that the seven first round winners had to wait for the seven first round losers to play and leave just one Backdoor team remaining.... Thats a minimum of 4 weeks anyway

Possibly the Donegal idea would be a better option than that Backdoor system i.e play Home and Away with a 3rd match required if it's one win apiece..

For all it's faults, I still think the Groups work reasonably well... Guaranteed at least 3 games and bottom teams go into Relegation Playoffs...

There is still a chance for amaglamations to enter Senior Championships but in reality that wont happen.

The structures for championships are not decided yet.

There are 3 options.

1. Straight Knockout,
2. Groups.
3. Back door system / Where every team will have at least 2 games.

The clubs have to give feedback on what they want and then a decision will be made.

Hmmm I think too much is invested in teams to have just straight knock out...

That Backdoor system as was run a couple of years ago isn't the best either because if you won your first game you had a long break till your next game

Groups isn't too bad especially when there is relegation from the Championship - keeps every game competitive as teams avoid relegation play-offs

17 teams in Senior Championship next year 10 divison 1A teams and  Drumgoon, Gowna , Killygarry, Crosserlough, Castlerahan, Drumalee and Redhills.

Intermediate - 10 teams in division 2 and Shercock and Butlersbridge


Junior the rest.

Ballyhaise have been relegated to Junior,
Shower of b**tards.....

Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!

Ahem...

Ahh that first post was obviously wrong and I didn't cop it straight away - Castlerahan shouldn't have been mentioned as going back into Senior....  Belturbet should have been included on that list instead...

Apologies BHMan so that's ourselves, yourselves and Drumlane the only ones not Senior in Division 1B

And after all the comings and goings, we have ended up with one more team in the Senior Championship this year (17) and not an amalgamation in sight!!

What way are they gonna work that now? 3 Groups of 4 and one of 5, will mean 4 rounds of fixtures or will they still look for amalgamations to make it up to 20?

If there are no amalgamations then, is there any point in pushing the start of the Intermediate and Junior Championship back to 11th August to wait until first stages of Senior Championships are over??

Interesting...

Hmmm... So by the sound of things, in Division 1B only ourselves, Belturbet and Drumlane are not Senior Championship...

Think I'll have to sleep on this one and see in the morning what I make of it... Suffice it to say that it's interesting!