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Coalisland player spat at a cross official?

Yes allegedly and it wasn't just Cross people who said this to me.

Was it the incident with the physio?

Yes

poor form, pity after such a good year for this to be the legacy for the neutrals

So now your a club that has allegedly paid an outside men and now have an alleged spitter

Another point is that Coalisland had a proven championship winning manager got rid of him, and eventually went back to him, and guess what he won it again. Brainnless shit, you couldn't make it up.

tintown this about Localexpert continually spouting about Coalisland being holier than tho, where infact they have been involved in the same practise as the rest. All the men listed all took Coalisland since 2013, they were outside men. The fact that you were stupid enough not to get the right outside manager who could deliver is neither here or there, especially considering the fact that you had an inside man who could take your senior team and won the championship back in 2010, but you couldn't get rid of him quick enough, what sort of outfit are you anyway. We had a winner and didn't shit on him. You had a winner, you shit on him,  went for outside men who couldn't deliver (poor appointments by your club) and then ran back to him to dig you out of a hole when you shit on Mc Keever.  Fair play to O'Hagan for taking the team again considering how poorly he was treated. Says more about him than your club. Now don't make the mistake you did before and hound him out. Do what we did stick with the winner. In truth you must fell sick thinking of what you could have won if you had of stuck with your man when he proved he could deliver.

Personally think anyone who begrudges TTM are seriously inward looking folk. They have done a brilliant job giving Tyrone Gaels what they want, more Gaa coverage, they have enhanced our club profile as a result, they deserve credit, not ridicule.

Probably the same as Coalisland paid John Mc Keever, Conleth Gilligan and John Lynch et al. Maybe our county manager gives his time freely as well the past 15 years. Similar to Derrylaughlin, Killyclogher, Edendork or Donaghmore😱🙄

The good news is we have a home draw in Ulster this year but:



Antrim v Tyrone/Derry

Home draw?, you haven't a ground to take the crowd. It will be moved to a neutral venue due to the support Tyrone will carry for them, no facilities for a game of this level.

I know I shouldn't.....What investments?

[Conan grugan could be as good as Brian Fenton]

Conan grugan could be as good as Brian Fenton. Always a class act anytime I seen him and a big physical player. Can't see him ever playing for Tyrone again as long as harte is there. Real shame.

good attempt at a wind up 

Mc Clure scored two points from play   why was he played at whf, when we had no penetration down the middle, baffling. But agreed on his lack of urgency.

Can I ask what is an 'OB'?

[The fact remains that we haven't beaten 1 any of the big teams (Dublin, Kerry, Mayo) since 2009]

I think after the euphoria from the weekend subsides and we sit down and thoroughly assess where we're at, we'll find we are probably as far away as we have been since 2011.

The fact remains that we haven't beaten 1 any of the big teams (Dublin, Kerry, Mayo) since 2009. No team that we have beaten in a knock-out match since 2013 has went on to win the All-Ireland. We are a fair ways behind both Mayo and Kerry. We benefited greatly from both of them having an off year. We were glorified Ulster Champions by virtue of the Super 8. The All Ireland Final was over as a contest after 33mins. I'm by no means a Harte basher but we have to be honest. It's not good enough. Only for a fortuitous Darren Hughes block which resulted in Sludden's goal it was 50/50 whether or not we were going to beat Monaghan. I'm not sure if a management team needs assembled, or if we're simply not good enough but since we lost to Mayo in 2016, everything has been geared towards to the Dubs both fitness wise and system wise, and now twice we have come up short. I detest mentioning him but I listen to Wooly Parkinson but he called it completely right last week, Colly Cav and/or his role was completely negated by the Dubs, so essentially we were 15 v 14 for the whole match. I'm just not sure where we go or what we do from here, if we're not as fit as the Dubs, then do we need a new trainer, if our system is outdated then do we need a new manager? Or is it simply that we don't have the players? I'm sure we will all watch club championship games over the next few months and see classy, strong athletic players who we know just won't fit in with Mickey's plan. So I'll let you all discuss.

Also been saying this

And its now 3 times, in 2 years, Dublin have beaten Tyrone while only in 3rd gear

I would counter that by saying that, with the obvious exception of Dublin who are probably the best team ever, we have beaten whoever has been put infront of us in the last two seasons. I would argue that 2017 and 2018 are the strongest teams Tyrone have had since at least 2010 and it's not their fault that they haven't been drawn against Mayo, Kerry or even Galway this year as I see no reason why we couldn't have beaten any of them and then this wouldn't be a stick that could be used to beat this Tyrone team

I entirely agree, lazy analysis. As things stand, in my view we are a better team than the other teams mentioned in 2018, maybe not until 2017, but  because we haven't played them in 2018 doesn't mean we haven't surpassed them.

I wouldn't call it lazy analysis at all. Monaghan knocked us out in the first game of the championship, the lucky goal we got made it look a bit more respectable. We struggled badly against Meath and should have been knocked out in normal time. Had a few easy games and then almost kicked ourselves out of it against Monaghan in the semi final.

We have played Dublin, Kerry and Mayo numerous times in the last 10 years in either the Quarter finals, Semi finals or Final and we have been well beaten on every single occasion. 

This will continue for at least another 3 years as Harte refuses to change anything. Its as clear as day to every ex Tyrone player, sports writer, TV presenter etc that we need to make changes but I can 100% guarantee that we wont. Harte seems determined to prove everyone wrong by playing the same players with the same set up hoping that they will win. Its utter madness.

Next year Tyrone may win Ulster but with Donegal and Monaghan improving it is looking unlikely. They may get through the Super 8s depending on the group but as soon as they meet Mayo, Dublin or Kerry they will be knocked out. Its ground hog day in Tyrone the past 10 years.

You know I was with you until you said he refuses to change anything, Tyrones system from last season has considerable changed, if you don't recognise that you have no place discussing it at all. 

[The fact remains that we haven't beaten 1 any of the big teams (Dublin, Kerry, Mayo) since 2009]

I think after the euphoria from the weekend subsides and we sit down and thoroughly assess where we're at, we'll find we are probably as far away as we have been since 2011.

The fact remains that we haven't beaten 1 any of the big teams (Dublin, Kerry, Mayo) since 2009. No team that we have beaten in a knock-out match since 2013 has went on to win the All-Ireland. We are a fair ways behind both Mayo and Kerry. We benefited greatly from both of them having an off year. We were glorified Ulster Champions by virtue of the Super 8. The All Ireland Final was over as a contest after 33mins. I'm by no means a Harte basher but we have to be honest. It's not good enough. Only for a fortuitous Darren Hughes block which resulted in Sludden's goal it was 50/50 whether or not we were going to beat Monaghan. I'm not sure if a management team needs assembled, or if we're simply not good enough but since we lost to Mayo in 2016, everything has been geared towards to the Dubs both fitness wise and system wise, and now twice we have come up short. I detest mentioning him but I listen to Wooly Parkinson but he called it completely right last week, Colly Cav and/or his role was completely negated by the Dubs, so essentially we were 15 v 14 for the whole match. I'm just not sure where we go or what we do from here, if we're not as fit as the Dubs, then do we need a new trainer, if our system is outdated then do we need a new manager? Or is it simply that we don't have the players? I'm sure we will all watch club championship games over the next few months and see classy, strong athletic players who we know just won't fit in with Mickey's plan. So I'll let you all discuss.

Also been saying this

And its now 3 times, in 2 years, Dublin have beaten Tyrone while only in 3rd gear

I would counter that by saying that, with the obvious exception of Dublin who are probably the best team ever, we have beaten whoever has been put infront of us in the last two seasons. I would argue that 2017 and 2018 are the strongest teams Tyrone have had since at least 2010 and it's not their fault that they haven't been drawn against Mayo, Kerry or even Galway this year as I see no reason why we couldn't have beaten any of them and then this wouldn't be a stick that could be used to beat this Tyrone team

I entirely agree, lazy analysis. As things stand, in my view we are a better team than the other teams mentioned in 2018, maybe not until 2017, but  because we haven't played them in 2018 doesn't mean we haven't surpassed them.

Give all we had on Sunday but was not enough.....We talk about our forwards taking wrong options we conceded 2-17 wont win many game conceding that amount..... Baffles me why our top scorer McAliskey has a full tracking job to do nearly the whole time he is on the field very rarely does this role leave him close to goals...

that's a fair point, was surprised he was taken off so early considering his contribution was significant. All forwards have to track now, look at Mannion on Sunday, last man tackling on a couple of occasions to win back ball, same in omagh, he was also taken off and had made a significant scoring contribution when starting to gas. Dublin have the replacements, we don't have the same, therefore we feel it more in the home straight.

[Brian Kennedy from Derrylaughan]

A bit of fresh blood is needed also, anyone on the Under 21s or who to look out for in the Club Championship?

The U20 team this year, although getting beat by Armagh, featured a number of strong physical attacking players who could maybe get call up with decent championship showings for their clubs.
Teirnan Drayne (Donaghmore) Mattie McGleenan (Eglish) Paul Donaghy (Edendork) Ryan Gray (Trillick).
Brian Kennedy from Derrylaughan could also be a useful addition around Midfield were there is a lack of depth.

Could be a good outlet at the edge of the square

He has serious pace when he opens up coming unto a ball. Still raw, but I would suggest he would need to be taken into the squad early to develop his decision making skills as he definitely has potential. Can't ignore his size also and is mobile.