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Well done Mayo fantastic performance and hats off to Dublin will we ever see the likes again.What they have achieved has been unreal. They will still win a few more of that there's no doubt.

20 points behind , 7 wins in 22 , 4 league games without a win & 3 losses in a row against rangers . Would he even be welcome back in Lurgan?

Worst run in 21 years. What has he to do to get the sack.

Lennon has ruined any legacy he had at Celtic. He'll always be known as the man who f****d up the 10. He appears to have no self respect or respect for the fans. He should have been shown the door after the CL debacle.

Brian Coll absolute gentleman so sad.

Is this Harte's last year? Hope so.

Due to complete failure to steward properly, I'd say Tyrone will lose home advantage, at least for the game v Donegal, possibly more if Croke Park have the cojones.

Mainstreet check in with screenexile for the Tyrone fixtures.

Everyone keeps saying Peter Harte is a top player, but is he? He's never done it against Dublin in the championship despite multiple chances. He got a stupid black card against Donegal and was marked out of it a5md never seen against Kerry this year

He's a top player! I'm sure if you picked one of Dublins many top players and parachuted them into the Tyrone team they'd look less glamorous. Quit your jibber Jabber!

Top players do it on the big occasions were as Harte has disappeared.

You should stick to what you do best and rant about dublin funding

He could be a top player but he's been moved around that much its taken its toll on him. He's been CHB, HB, MF,HF,FF. His head must be turned.

[It may come across as sour grapes but we've lost plenty of games in the past number of years that have had absolutely nothing to do with referees.]

There were many decisions in that game that should be deeply concerning for the GAA and GAA fans. You could not credit it to a bad day at the office for Deegan, it was the willful way he ignored blatant fouling and cynicism on one hand and engaged in pure guesswork to punish innocuous contact on the other hand, all to the beneficiary of one side. The bias was not subtle, it was not hidden and there's barely been a peep about it - I've seen far better, much fairer refereeing performances been the subject of scrutiny and criticism in the past in games where it had less influence on the result.

There seems to be an element trying to hush the serious issues and grievances with Deegan. The conduct of Kerry, their players, management and ex players is regularly expunged fairly quickly in the media but with Tyrone they still bring up acts from 15 years ago. You will have the usual idiot savants like dublin7 and those regularly listing unsubstantiated claims against Tyrone but he won't look at his own county in the same light.

I'd just like a level playing field for all but it doesn't seem Tyrone will ever get that and you can guarantee if Armagh or Derry ever came back to the top table and stuck about they would soon understand. Some people from Armagh must have particularly short memories.

You are 100% correct about Deegan.  Tyrone were not the only Ulster side to come out the wrong side in the second half of a game - think back to Castlebar and Armagh Mayo game. He denied Armagh a chance to come back with his timekeeping.  At least Tyrone got 7 minutes to try to turn it around.

The problem arises when your team is beaten and you try to raise issues about the referee, it smells like sour grapes.

Tyrone may have got 7 minutes but the ball was only in play for about 3 of those. I think it was a minute and a half alone from O'Brien hauling McAliskey down and the ball being kicked out after Harte pointed the free. I was definitely expecting another minute or so of action after the last kick but it was futile anyway, we were very unlikely to fashion a goal chance and the damage had been done prior to that.

Again it's something that really needs to be looked at, some referees are very good at allowing the time be added on for delays and gamesmanship, others like Deegan aren't.

It may come across as sour grapes but we've lost plenty of games in the past number of years that have had absolutely nothing to do with referees. The role Deegan played for Kerry in this game was instrumental, you could guarantee had it been Tyrone who got those decisions and on the way to a win last Sunday, the referee's performance would have dominated the headlines after the match and for the ensuing week.

I certainly hope that's the last we'll ever see of Deegan over a Tyrone game and I hope it's the last time he'll ever get to give Kerry a helping hand over another team too.

They have lost them in the same fashion. With this team their mistakes are like a bus when one comes 3 or 4 seem to follow. This team cant seem to dig themselves out of it. I'm thinking about games against Kerry x 2,Mayo and to an extent Dublin last year in the AIF. Tyrone were up by 5 and had chances to extend their lead and one bad error led to another. Theres a serious problem with this team and one I dont believe the current management can fix.

There were many decisions in that game that should be deeply concerning for the GAA and GAA fans. You could not credit it to a bad day at the office for Deegan, it was the willful way he ignored blatant fouling and cynicism on one hand and engaged in pure guesswork to punish innocuous contact on the other hand, all to the beneficiary of one side. The bias was not subtle, it was not hidden and there's barely been a peep about it - I've seen far better, much fairer refereeing performances been the subject of scrutiny and criticism in the past in games where it had less influence on the result.

There seems to be an element trying to hush the serious issues and grievances with Deegan. The conduct of Kerry, their players, management and ex players is regularly expunged fairly quickly in the media but with Tyrone they still bring up acts from 15 years ago. You will have the usual idiot savants like dublin7 and those regularly listing unsubstantiated claims against Tyrone but he won't look at his own county in the same light.

I'd just like a level playing field for all but it doesn't seem Tyrone will ever get that and you can guarantee if Armagh or Derry ever came back to the top table and stuck about they would soon understand. Some people from Armagh must have particularly short memories.

You are 100% correct about Deegan.  Tyrone were not the only Ulster side to come out the wrong side in the second half of a game - think back to Castlebar and Armagh Mayo game. He denied Armagh a chance to come back with his timekeeping.  At least Tyrone got 7 minutes to try to turn it around.

The problem arises when your team is beaten and you try to raise issues about the referee, it smells like sour grapes.

Personally I was more annoyed about Tyrone's performance than Deegan's.

Is the Dunfermline game on any streams?

Celtic Tv down at the minute.

When are we likely to hear more from Kerry on their players getting poisoned? They have the all ireland final to look forward to now but hopefully they will follow it up after the final and expose the scum for what they are.

A side with a history of failing dope tests citing being poisoned by the opposition, would that not set alarm bells ringing in your head?

A history of failing dope tests? Catch yourself on posting shite like that about amateur players.

But you're fine with me and others being called scum?

When are we likely to hear more from Kerry on their players getting poisoned? They have the all ireland final to look forward to now but hopefully they will follow it up after the final and expose the scum for what they are.

A side with a history of failing dope tests citing being poisoned by the opposition, would that not set alarm bells ringing in your head?

Alarm bells?? Sure there's nothing in his head.

Or nothing like it at all.

Lenny's blatherings about Tyrone are often Paisleyesque in their vitriol.

Lol, that's ironic because I always think of Tyrone people like the DUP with their extreme paranoia.

And I always think of you as Ian Paisley with toxic hatred flowing through your every word.

Why are people arguing with this poster. Life is too short go get into a debaate with the likes of this guy. He is full of nonsense and best ignored.

On a serious note, do Tyrone fans think Mickey Harte is the man to bring them All Ireland victories
To me it's obvious that his negative tactics have been found up

To answer your question dublin7 its a no from me. I believe he's a manager who was in the right place at the right time with a group of outstanding players.

Say in 2008 did you think that or has it changed of late? (genuine question- not having a go)

2008 same core group of players and in football terms thats a long time ago and he's still there. To answer your question I've always felt it was that group of players that came along at the right time and no matter who the manager was they were always going to win an AI. Remember they won a national league the year before under Art & Eugene.

I'm neutral, and would agree with some of the constructive criticism of Mickey Harte but to say he was lucky with a group of players doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Whereas he's not everybody's cup of tea, he obviously sets standards and gets a response from players . He's been successful with Tyrone minor's u21s and seniors and with his club. Tyrone had real talent in the early 90s winning u21s but couldn't convert it to senior success until Harte took the reins. He managed to get great people around him that were crucial to success. He has maintained Tyrone at the top table throughout his tenure, but regardless of all that , he is likely to be victim of "same voice syndrome " having being involved with Tyrone teams over 20 years, and throughout that time naturally would have made a few enemies. He'll keep Tyrone at the top table but is he the best man to find the extra 10% required for Tyrone to win Sam again? only time will tell.

Minors, U21's with the same group of players. He was minor manager from 91 I think and had 1 Ulster title before that group came along.

Beyond embarrassing at this stage, Tyrone the most scummy team for two decades complaining about their players getting well marshelled.

Dont know which county you are from but I could guess. It must be hard being so angry all the time.