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Dungannon really missed a good forward in the championship game against Omagh, main reason they lost. Paul Donaghy will make a massive difference to that club, dungannon already on the rise but he will give them an even bigger boost. Him and Paddy Quinn playing inside will be a FF line with a serious aerial threat.

["Let's make no bones about this. Right now, a lot of people in Kerry are cursing Tadhg. Cursing one of our own. That can't be right," he said."I'd say any focus on this story must be bothering him. If I met him tomorrow, I'd say straight up, "Tadhg, I've nothing against you personally. But I hate what you're doing.""Because people in Kerry are sick of this. A lot of Tadhg's former team-mates are sick of this too, they just don't feel comfortable saying it. But I think Clifford leaving would be the straw that broke the camel's back."]

Harte's interview after the game was embarrassing.. Asked about McShane and he moreless said "I don't know what hes going to do but in my opinion his future is brighter here"

What's that Mickey? An 8-5 job for 35k a year then an hour drive home to Donegal border then a 45 minute drive to Gervaghy for training, or a professional contract in Australia worth maybe 100k or whatever a rookie makes.

It wasn't just what he was saying, but he genuinely sounded cold about it and I can only imagine the response he first got when he seeked "advice" from Harte

You find it embarrassing that the Tyrone manager would be trying to convince one of his best players to stick around and play for Tyrone?

Of course Harte will have a self interest here, it is of the interest of Tyrone GAA that McShane stays as he is an invaluable player. I wouldn't begrudge him a move but you must be some simpleton to think that the manager of an intercounty football team will not be acting in the interest of the team rather than the individual.

Did you see the furore down in Kerry when there was talk of Clifford going a few years back, it was pitchforks at dawn. Tomas O'Se was launching a number of broadside attacks and went for his ex teammate Tadhg Kennelly no holds barred.

"Let's make no bones about this. Right now, a lot of people in Kerry are cursing Tadhg. Cursing one of our own. That can't be right," he said.

"I'd say any focus on this story must be bothering him. If I met him tomorrow, I'd say straight up, "Tadhg, I've nothing against you personally. But I hate what you're doing."

"Because people in Kerry are sick of this. A lot of Tadhg's former team-mates are sick of this too, they just don't feel comfortable saying it. But I think Clifford leaving would be the straw that broke the camel's back."

And this from a person who was not actively involved with Kerry GAA at that time? If you find Harte embarrassing what would you find that?

If McShane wants to go that is his choice and I wouldn't begrudge him that but the fact that you would find it embarrassing that the county manager would be doing his best to try and convince his best player to stick around is a very bizarre stance to take.

the way in which MH approached it was not good, basically saying its no benefit to him if mcshane leaves, made himself sound selfish. that was my view on it anyway, but everyone will have different opinions on it

Fair overall assessment there Tyrone95. In reality as you say, there are probably max 4/5 teams who could finish top of the league (either first or the league play off winners). After that the rest could struggle if they hit a bad run. Two or three losses in succession will leave any team in trouble. Next year could be very competitive at the bottom end - it may take 11/12 points to avoid automatic relegation. The gap between the bottom 8 and top half is not so big but the gap to the top 4 is a big step, not easily breeched. As someone said earlier there are a number of teams who always finish in mid table but just can't quite make that push forward to hit top 4. Any of these mid rank teams could struggle next year if they hit a poor run of results.

i could see this season being very similar to the 2018 league season. galbally came last with 9 points, pomeroy second from bottom with 9 also and Aghyarn the final relegation zone team on 10 points. unbelievably tight season that year and the same this year it looks like.

the fight for the top 4 was also tight that year with donaghmore and derrylaughan coming close to getting into the play offs.

Why would they not have been favoured?
They won the minor championship and league at the same age group and so many of them have senior experience.
I would have been disappointed had we not won it.

Who are the ones who have a lot of senior experience? Excluding Monroe & Daly, I can't think of any more really?

Sean Donnelly, Ruairi Slane, and Tiarnan Murray all have a lot of senior experience although Wee Roddy didn't mention the words a lot.  James McGurk, Rory Donnelly, Lorcan McBride, Ciaran Cuddy, Oran Mckee, Conor Loughran have all got senior football at some stage this past couple of years.

Talk sense, most of them lads haven't played 60 minutes. Tiarnan Murray probably the most experience in that list. Should Carrickmore not be giving these men more chances in the seniors and maybe build a bit of consistency in the league

7 of them have played more than 60 minutes.  You keep to your intermediate football. We seen the standard that is when quite a few of starters from Galbally met us in the u21s.  A new county player limping off after 20 minutes holding his hamstring after getting a roasting by a 17 year old cub.  Then reappeared for the second half with his hamstring mended.  Quite embarrassing.

The same 17 year old cub probably won't get a crack at the whip because the over 40s on your team refuse to move on, and nobody has the balls to drop them because they won an all ireland or two 10-15 years ago.

Oh, don't you worry, the 17 year cub will be getting crack at it.  We can rebuild without dropping to intermediate football.

there will be some craic on here when yous play in the league and them two men get to mark each other again 

as for the comment about the over 40s... I would dare to say that gormley and penrose would start for a majority of D1 teams, im guessing a lot of people on here would agree

I'd fancy kilcoo to beat ballyboden. Ballyboden have looked very ordinary any time I've seen them. I know they won an AI a few years back but that shouldn't count as they beat a mayo side in the final.

kilcoo dealt with the physicality of Naomh conall, so im thinking they may be able handle that of boden but boden have much better forwards at their disposal

Strange Killyclogher hasn't been filled yet, they are a really good team full of potential.

Its a give the ball to mark bradley, let him do the rest. far too reliant. Cant see them getting far the year

How many times did you see killyclogher play last year to come up with this conclusion.

I seen them enough, most over rated team in the league by a mile.

over rated? they are slated on here constantly

Strange Killyclogher hasn't been filled yet, they are a really good team full of potential.

Considering they had 3 management Teams last year its hardey surprising. Hard too work with and a lot of prima donnas to keep on board

Paul Mcivor, welcome to the board

No Brocagh or Drumragh on that list of clubs

You're not slow Tom, but the whispers are neither of those two.

The other Club that are obviously struggling would be Killyman?

I thought Killyman too, but they didn't seem to have too many issues fielding a reserve team this year, or at least not much worse than some Junior clubs did, and even fielded an Under 21 team that fulfilled a few games. Last competitive youth team they fielded I can find was at minor level in 2017, seem to be throwing their lot in with Brocagh & Derrytresk (Naomh Padraig) otherwise - though I noticed neither Naomh Padraig or any of its host clubs fielded at Under 14 this year except for a championship game where they were well beaten.

Here's a list of club membership numbers in Tyrone for 2019 (stolen from tomorrow's County Convention report) that might shine a few lights. I'd actually be curious how Cúchulainn na Ghleanna operates with no listed membership considering they played in the Under 14 hurling league this year?

Would some clubs not have more members than this?  Seems the numbers for some clubs, adult and underage are small enough???

Strabane stood out for me with only 11 adult members, not enough to field a team.

Yeah.  Is it people don't want to pay the annual subscription to their club....but run to every game and event etc.

Clubs should be doing more to enrol eveybody - especially with the amount of money it takes to run clubs nowadays.

These number in list shock me.

Eoghan Ruadh Hurlers also had 40 stripped out at the Ulster final, so surely these numbers aren't correct

surely clogher with only 27 at youth couldn't be true?

[Paul rouses']

I don't really mind paid managers but it's the absolute charlatans who aren't any good who keep getting new teams over and over and over again. But I suppose that says more about the clubs that the managers.

Paul rouses' ears will be burning right now

Has he ever won anything?

Vast majority of managers dont win anything

The vast majority of managers don't get the opportunity to manage a dromore team that was in their prime either, probably the best team in the county at the time, he did and didn't get past the semi-final stages of the championship if I remember correctly.

Martin Sludden up for Vice Chair/Chair of the CCC

Say what you want but I think he would be a good man to get in, he would actually try and get the fixtures situation sorted.

Is mark Bradley back? Seen him in the paper this week playing soccer. Why is it almost always talented forwards that quit the county panel? Obviously not an enjoyable experience?

Get your ass kissed at your club about how good you are, which is more often than not true enough to be fair.

Go to county, where you have to do the shit you don't do because the average lads cover you (such as tackle and track). Don't like it, leave.

Fair enough, it's where Tyrone are at - no point yapping about Harte. He won't change. Although inside mark coming in showed that Tyrone can actually play decent stuff with that rule.

Is it in for clubs on that matter does anyone know?

If it comes into the club scene then i think we will see a number of the weaker teams or teams that would normally struggle, using it massively to their advantage and reaping the rewards. This would suit a teams like Moy and Clogher for example, big men that can field a ball and know where the posts are. This will make up for other areas in the field where teams are lacking. It'll be a big leveller.

I'd suggest that maybe last weekend didn't suit Owen Roes as I'm sure half the parish was at the all star awards in Dublin. If Augher wanted the points that badly they'd have cancelled the stag. I've missed many occasions over the head of club football - obviously doesn't matter a big pile in that squad.

You must have no life outside of football. Ridiculous post.

Some say killyclogher and omagh are still half cut from there 1st round championships win, big rip back then, but where are they come sunday?

What have they to celebrate? Avoiding relegation? Very poor game tonight, almost embarrassed to be a Tyrone gael on a night like that.

Can I inquire what this is in relation to?

Are Errigal or Trillick good enough to give ulster a rattle this year? Who's more likely to perform in ulster?

No bluesy. Both aren't near it, i have no idea how two teams, as bad as these two have found themselves in a county final, beyond me. Could be embarrassing to watch one of them in Ulster.

you are either, still sour your own club weren't good enough to make the final or are just fishing for some sort of reaction 

Are Errigal or Trillick good enough to give ulster a rattle this year? Who's more likely to perform in ulster?

I would say Trillick would give Ulster a serious go, done well enough in it in 2015, with a much weaker team than they have now.