Messages

This president is right up there with the worst presidents we've ever had. We need to get through his tenure with the least damage possible done to our games. Then we must aim to recover from it.

[There has to be a byway for teams to develop.]

Yeah well it works at club level.

Club level is sustained by local rivalries. Beating a team from 20 or even 40 miles away in a county junior final is special. Beating a county from the other side of the country proved rather less special when it came to the Tommy Cooper Cup.

Laythrim hurlers were mighty happy batin a team from another Country.
And it was special to them going by their celebrations in Carrick that night.

For over one hundred years hurling teams like Donegal had nothing to play for. Now they've won Lory meagher and Nicky rackard trophys both in Croke Park. Without tiering they had nothing to play for. I've a friend who plays for them. There's nobody on here who could tell him that those competitions don't matter or are second rate. He trains hard and to him those medals are the same as a Liam McCarthy medal. There are lots of football teams for whom a better than average summer is getting 3 matches. Half the teams every year are out after 3 matches. There has to be a byway for teams to develop.

The league already provides the opportunity to improve against teams of similar standard.

We've had that for over a hundred years. There are quite a few teams out there who have never won anything in that time. The problem is they develop in the league but then get tanked in the championship because it's way above their level.

21 different counties have won provincial titles since 1992. The Tommy Murphy Cup was rejected a decade ago. Time to move on.

[the face of undisputed facts]

I caught you out before you prize fn arsehole. You are one and the same poster. Multiple usernames discussing Dublin GAA with each other on a shithole GAA forum. Is this what you do for kicks you sad fkr.

That other poster is most likely from Dublin.

It's in no way surprising to see a Dub fire out abuse in the face of undisputed facts. Lashing out in anger is all you have left. You know you have been doped to the gills but you can't accept it. Well, guess what? You're going to have to. Your county board accepted the money, they chose to buy success instead of competing fairly. By right, Dublin should be stripped of all titles won during their doping years, what's going to happen is that you'll be split into 4 and we'll all try to move on and learn from this dark period. Like cycling has attempted post Armstrong, like athletics post Ben Johnson.

Ill just leave that there...

I'll just leave this here:

I caught you out before you prize fn arsehole. You are one and the same poster. Multiple usernames discussing Dublin GAA with each other on a shithole GAA forum. Is this what you do for kicks you sad fkr.

That other poster is most likely from Dublin.

It's in no way surprising to see a Dub fire out abuse in the face of undisputed facts. Lashing out in anger is all you have left. You know you have been doped to the gills but you can't accept it. Well, guess what? You're going to have to. Your county board accepted the money, they chose to buy success instead of competing fairly. By right, Dublin should be stripped of all titles won during their doping years, what's going to happen is that you'll be split into 4 and we'll all try to move on and learn from this dark period. Like cycling has attempted post Armstrong, like athletics post Ben Johnson.

PR/K4S sometimes less is more.

Kildare have barely won anything this century bar the f**king O'Byrne Cup, less is certainly not more.

Don't forget the f**king u20 All Ireland.

Also don't forget to attend your anger management classes this week.

Is that it? With a population of well over 200,000, you're a f**king joke county. Go clean up some horse shite.

I caught you out before you prize fn arsehole. You are one and the same poster. Multiple usernames discussing Dublin GAA with each other on a shithole GAA forum. Is this what you do for kicks you sad fkr.

That other poster is most likely from Dublin.

It's in no way surprising to see a Dub fire out abuse in the face of undisputed facts. Lashing out in anger is all you have left. You know you have been doped to the gills but you can't accept it. Well, guess what? You're going to have to. Your county board accepted the money, they chose to buy success instead of competing fairly. By right, Dublin should be stripped of all titles won during their doping years, what's going to happen is that you'll be split into 4 and we'll all try to move on and learn from this dark period. Like cycling has attempted post Armstrong, like athletics post Ben Johnson.

PR/K4S sometimes less is more.

Kildare have barely won anything this century bar the f**king O'Byrne Cup, less is certainly not more.

I caught you out before you prize fn arsehole. You are one and the same poster. Multiple usernames discussing Dublin GAA with each other on a shithole GAA forum. Is this what you do for kicks you sad fkr.

That other poster is most likely from Dublin.

It's in no way surprising to see a Dub fire out abuse in the face of undisputed facts. Lashing out in anger is all you have left. You know you have been doped to the gills but you can't accept it. Well, guess what? You're going to have to. Your county board accepted the money, they chose to buy success instead of competing fairly. By right, Dublin should be stripped of all titles won during their doping years, what's going to happen is that you'll be split into 4 and we'll all try to move on and learn from this dark period. Like cycling has attempted post Armstrong, like athletics post Ben Johnson.

Here's the promised graph:

Fantastic graph, i have to say well done, you must have a doctorate in graphic design or something.

Quick question, if the development funding started in 2005 and the beneficiaries of that funding were mainly 5-12 years olds in schools, would in not be more beneficiall to start record it from 2011? unfair on Pillars team of the noughties.

I also believe this guy and Kerry for sam are the same individuals, and the same as a person knocking around these forums a while back, name escapes me.

Can you include in the graph the 70s and 80s also? and the ealry 90s, couple of barron years there for sure, but every great football team as barron periods, included the Kerry team of the 90s.

Although i know your a WUM, but your understanding of sport and sporting history is quite poor?

I've f**king destroyed you in arguments about this before and you'll be leaving with your tail between your legs again!

It's the lie that the Dubs are clutching onto, they've tried so many but they think their best hope to muddy the waters is with the 'won't anybody think of the childers'! The GDO's go into schools, they work with kids and encourage them to go to the local club. They teach the basics to the kids but that is not the end of it! They coach in clubs as well, in fact, that's their main area. They also coach parents and anyone interested in taking teams. Coaching the coaches in other words. Talent spotting is another key role for the GDO's. They report to officers in charge of the elite development squads. This is what has been happening since the funding began. Players on these elite development squads are given professional level coaching and preparation, the ultimate target is to develop top level athletes at senior level. If you look at the 2011 Dublin team, you will find many of them, especially in the backline.

Or what do you think of this one?

Here's the promised graph:

I see Kilmacud Crokes won Feile u14 Division 1. Another golden generation although funny enough the senior football coach in Kilmacud Shane Smith, who as an aside has a masters in Sports Science signals out their GDO Pauric McDonald on twitter for his great coaching foundations.

But according to Hound these guys just go to schools, I am confused and probably just mean spirited.

Pauric is an extra GDO that Kilmacud decided to get in, in addition to the standard one. He is 100% funded by Kilmacud's members and completely irrelevant to Games Development Funding.

Every club in the country can hire a GDO, if they have the members willing to fund it. Not many cubs as big as Kilmacud though. And they attract big sponsorships as well.

Why do you continue to talk shite? Pretending the GDO funding is some completely separate thing. Without the funding from us, wouldn't Kilmacud have less money to splash out on extras? Same with every other club in Dublin.
I have a graph on the way to show the difference the GDO money PLUS the extra income gathered off the back of that has done for Dublin GAA. The GDO's are a vital cog in the system, they get in at the base level. Teach the basics, get players into clubs, give coaching lessons to parents, identify elite talent, direct them the development squad process overseen by the highly paid officers. It's a multi million euro system. 

Does anyone know where I can get data on the Leinster ladies senior football roll of honour? I've done a graph but I've had to omit data on this and only included national league and All Ireland data. 

The games up. This is now all over the media and on the terraces. For years it was silenced but now it's common knowledge. Dublin have doped their way to a huge number of titles since 2005. The counts up to 55 titles I believe. There's an asterisk beside every single one of these titles. Everyone knows it, even the Dubs. It really was a dark period in the history of the GAA. It's coming to an end though. The split is very near.

poor snowflake.

You would swear the Dubs broke up an equal field where Longford, Sligo and Antrim were pushing for national titles. 25 counties have always been rubbish at any given time. Its an odd coincidence that the rest of Leinster independently went through a phase of being cat at the same time Dublin pushed on. Not our fault.

The idea that there has been suppression of talk about Dublins funding is laughable.

The 55 titles include hurling and underage. You're clueless. Which one are you going to follow? Fingal, Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown, South Dublin or Dublin city centre?

We (Dublin) only measure success on winning All Irelands, not provincials.

Not pre-doping, you barely won any All Ireland's then. Warning, graph on the way!!! Incoming.

The games up. This is now all over the media and on the terraces. For years it was silenced but now it's common knowledge. Dublin have doped their way to a huge number of titles since 2005. The counts up to 55 titles I believe. There's an asterisk beside every single one of these titles. Everyone knows it, even the Dubs. It really was a dark period in the history of the GAA. It's coming to an end though. The split is very near.

poor snowflake.

You would swear the Dubs broke up an equal field where Longford, Sligo and Antrim were pushing for national titles. 25 counties have always been rubbish at any given time. Its an odd coincidence that the rest of Leinster independently went through a phase of being cat at the same time Dublin pushed on. Not our fault.

The idea that there has been suppression of talk about Dublins funding is laughable.

The 55 titles include hurling and underage. You're clueless. Which one are you going to follow? Fingal, Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown, South Dublin or Dublin city centre?

That aimed at me?

Go back to school and learn how to read.

The games up. This is now all over the media and on the terraces. For years it was silenced but now it's common knowledge. Dublin have doped their way to a huge number of titles since 2005. The counts up to 55 titles I believe. There's an asterisk beside every single one of these titles. Everyone knows it, even the Dubs. It really was a dark period in the history of the GAA. It's coming to an end though. The split is very near.

poor snowflake.

You would swear the Dubs broke up an equal field where Longford, Sligo and Antrim were pushing for national titles. 25 counties have always been rubbish at any given time. Its an odd coincidence that the rest of Leinster independently went through a phase of being cat at the same time Dublin pushed on. Not our fault.

The idea that there has been suppression of talk about Dublins funding is laughable.

The 55 titles include hurling and underage. You're clueless. Which one are you going to follow? Fingal, Dún Laoghaire/Rathdown, South Dublin or Dublin city centre?

The 2 sides promoted from D3 will be considered D2 then and will be Tier 1.

That's not what it says in the rte article

Under the new proposals, Division 3 finalists Westmeath and Laois would have played in a Tier 2 championship rather than the All-Ireland qualifiers this summer

Why would any team in Division 3 vote for these proposals?

They will be in a competition they have a chance of winning.
They will avoid the embarrassment of being destroyed by Dublin/Kerry/Mayo/Donegal.
Teams can develop and bring through young players by playing at their own level.
Why would they vote against the proposals?

Players left for America for the summer instead of playing the Tommy Murphy Cup. No one wants this shite, they can f**k off.