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unless mistakingly believing it was a way to save / make money..........

my point is neither Mayo4sam or myself know why the Vat registration happened.

but mayo4sam decides to invent property developers etc to suit his imagination

Sid and Trailer need to go back in their urban boxes and stop commenting on something they so obviously know nithing about.
An awful lot of farmers in Ros and I'm sure other adjoining Counties have scattered bits of land which would be registered as separate properties.
Bottom line is Mc still owes a load of money secured on his property.....
Banks and Vultures might just go about theur business a bit  more diplomatically after this propaganda defeat.
I hope Gilroy and his gang hadn't talked Mc into ignoring the whole situation.

Ross, I've asked Orchard but he didn't answer, maybe you will.
can you explain how this man could have risen a VAT bill of a minimum of €177k?
That's not a farming debt, that's one thing I know for definite, farmers don't register for VAT cause we'd be rode.
And that VAT just happens to coincide with the construction industry failing?

Farmers didn't get hit hard in the recession, cattle prices fell but the arse didn't fall out of them. Milk prices were running above 40c/l over those years, that's well above what they are now in a dairy boom
Not paying your VAT wouldn't make sense, it's literlaly the most likely thing you'll be caught on by revenue

given the mcganns never were dairying milk prices are irrelevant

I didnt answer you how the vat debt arose as I dont understand it and because i don;t understand it myself i wont speculate or second guess it or jump to conclusions.
I was telling you they arent developers . as i understand it some land was sold to pay off the revenue debt a few years back also, but that could be wrong equally

So they're beef farmers, like I said there was no recession for beef farmers. Those VAT debts are not farming debts

no recesssion for beef farmers because you say so.

there wasnt a recession, just a continuation of existing depressed prices........ I cannot explain the VAT bnut equally uou have no baiss for asserting it was non faerming activity or your continued belief that he was a property developer

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/legal-advice/what-are-the-pros-and-cons-of-registering-for-vat-34205607.html

Sid and Trailer need to go back in their urban boxes and stop commenting on something they so obviously know nithing about.
An awful lot of farmers in Ros and I'm sure other adjoining Counties have scattered bits of land which would be registered as separate properties.
Bottom line is Mc still owes a load of money secured on his property.....
Banks and Vultures might just go about theur business a bit  more diplomatically after this propaganda defeat.
I hope Gilroy and his gang hadn't talked Mc into ignoring the whole situation.

Ross, I've asked Orchard but he didn't answer, maybe you will.
can you explain how this man could have risen a VAT bill of a minimum of €177k?
That's not a farming debt, that's one thing I know for definite, farmers don't register for VAT cause we'd be rode.
And that VAT just happens to coincide with the construction industry failing?

Farmers didn't get hit hard in the recession, cattle prices fell but the arse didn't fall out of them. Milk prices were running above 40c/l over those years, that's well above what they are now in a dairy boom
Not paying your VAT wouldn't make sense, it's literlaly the most likely thing you'll be caught on by revenue

given the mcganns never were dairying milk prices are irrelevant

I didnt answer you how the vat debt arose as I dont understand it and because i don;t understand it myself i wont speculate or second guess it or jump to conclusions.
I was telling you they arent developers . as i understand it some land was sold to pay off the revenue debt a few years back also, but that could be wrong equally

They actually have the means to clear their debt but they won't. Just think about that. 4 houses, a farm of land. These are exactly the type of people who have contributed to the homeless crisis in Ireland. They've acquired property as an investment. Taking it out the hands of people who could raise families in those homes. They've drove up property prices and they haven't bother to pay the loans.
Is this what being Irish in in 2018? IMO there's only a thin veneer of Irishness painted over these people. This stinks of planter mentality to me.

what 4 houses ?? have you seen addresses listed or just following Sid & co half reading reports

Mcs back in their house, Crowd guard the house overnight.

Switch off the electricity supply, either they can spend Christmas at one of their other four properties, or they can stew in the cold for the next two weeks the same way they let local businesses stew because they couldn't be bothered paying them, move back in first thing in the new year.

one local business Hanly brothers who knows more about court orders than any other business in the west unpaid ( google Alan or Bertie Hanly and your sympathy might be misplaced)........or are you aware of any others
what 4 other properties ?  Folios refer to land plot not to another house

Supposedly alright.... won't be pretty if they are.

The ERU won't save their bacon if thick enough to engage again

Trinity asset management, Aidan Devlin organised the  occupiers

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Mayo4sam who thinks Anthony McCann is a developer....

Not many farmers around Mayo with five properties, maybe I'm doing it wrong

5 folios.....

There might  not be an acre in each of the.

But trust me the mcganns aren't developers.... farmers in debt yes

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Mayo4sam who thinks Anthony McCann is a developer....

You'd be as welcome around these parts as Aidan effin Devkin is now to be honest.....

A rough cold night but s savage crowd of friends and supporters surrounding the house I believe

[UDRUVFUDA 0]

Doesn't matter what he is -no institution should be using unlicensed illegal thugs to enforce a Court Order.
Whatever happened to going to the front door with a couple of Gardai and demanding possession.
If not complied with wouldn't you then apply to have them jailed for contempt of Court?
Introducing illegal unlicensed thugs opened the door for retaliation.
So it's Ros 1 UDRUVFUDA 0.

A variation on your normal DUPUDA nonsense I see.  You do know that not every Protestant in NI supports or has connections to Loyalist paramilitaries?

Where did I say every Protestant in the North supports or has connections with paramilitaries?
If these thugs were licensed wouldn't they have had IDs and badge numbers?

You're asking questions you don't even know the answer to. You have know idea of the rules and regulations governing these businesses, so why are you continuing to blather on here as if you do?

And you do know gallsman do you. ?

It's called Strokestown for a reason.

This is the sort of mentality that these "protests" (since when is setting fire to cars and wielding baseball bats a "protest"?) are promoting.

Gombeens of the worst order.

There was a protest march in Castlerea (another town in Roscommon) over the weekend. Some think that protest was connected to the Strokestown evictions but apparently it was to do with Garda beating up two innocent and well respected local men that the Garda thought was involved in a robbery.

Nothing to do with the KBC  mob

There has yet to be the slightest evidence demonstrated that the security firm involved were loyalist paramilitaries.

Your man is an absolute lowlife gangster. Bleeding the state dry for years. Slap it up him.

If this is the firm I think it is, it is certainly not the first time they have operated south of the border. Given the gardai involvement, wouldn't it be safe to say they were not acting illegally?

It is Aidan Devljns highway men alright

Well it's clearly not unlicensed, the security firm will have the relevant EU (Brexit hasn't happened yet) licensing. Bailiffs are legally allowed in Ireland but sure why let the truth get in the way

They're dressing this lad up as a farmer, he might have land but he's no farmer, he's a developer who got caught out, decided to not pay his VAT or his quarry bill and hasn't paid them since

You confident of that assertion ?

Tell us what Anthony developed then

What's the difference between these people in Roscommon and the O'Donnells of Vico Road?

About s billion euro