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Someone stated that this Laoiseabu fella was from Kildare, wherever he's from he should be ignored.

The answers are staring you in the face, that's if you've actually gone to any Laois underage games?

Development squads are definitely the way to go. If they're not working then it's because the set up isn't right. The very least these development squads should produce is highly athletic, fit and strong young players. Have we seen that?

Any word on Healy's injury and whether he'll give the footballers one last year?

I was slightly critical of Donie in the Dublin match but I thought he did well yesterday. To even get that goal attempt away was impressive. He kicked his frees, set up scores and as always he had a couple of players watching him. I just hope he forgets the basketball this winter and gives it a full go.
I was also surprised that Walsh didn't get more time. We need more scoring forwards. Hopefully Murphy from Port and Cahilane and Merideth are fit and join up next year. Maybe other young lads like Moore, Kelly, Whelan and the likes can be added to squad to gain experience and see if they can impress.

A bigger issue is what to do with Donie, we don't seem to get the best out of him. I know he is tightly marked but we managed to get a point from play from him in each of the last two games. It a bit disheartening at times to see brody further up the field than him. He is not mobile enough for centre forward as he can't track back. We tried a few balls to him at full forward but he was too easily bottled up. The game has changed to a mobile Pacey full forward like Flynn of Kildare but we have to work something to our advantage. Finding a few more pacey forwards will be a priority for sugure, once again we only managed 12 scores in a game

A lot of the passes into him yesterday were quite poor. Either putting him out near the sideline or worse, sending ball to the opposite side of his run which favoured the back. Some of the best passes actually came from Donie himself when he was at centre forward. I think that's the problem right there. We don't have quality kick passers or maybe we don't have the players capable of winning ball, getting free of their markers and sending quick ball in.
I thought players like Benny Carroll, Lowry and Donagher did well with some of their runs when they came on yesterday but their distribution was poor. Glynn and Farrell didn't set up much, Paul Kingston got bottled up in the half forward line, in fact our 2 most creative half forwards were O'Carroll and Donie, we want them in the full forward line though.
It's all about power and pace these days, unfortunately we lack in both those areas. These type of players don't just come out of thin air. It has to be developed from underage. Hopefully work will be done on this but for next year, we need everyone on board as has been said. No drops offs from this year, a few of the injured or players that went to America back in and call up a few u20's.
This year has been a huge step forward and promotion from division 3 should be the next target.

Donie hasn't been great. No matter how talented you are, you have to do the training. At this level, missing the winter work will show. Free taking has to be practiced over and over and over. When Donie done a couple of years full time training a few years ago he was unstoppable. O'Carroll and Kingston did get plenty of chances against Dublin, Walsh scored a few when he came on but only two of them can start in my opinion.

Let's look at the positives from the Dublin game and see what we can work on.

Our kickouts went well. I was worried with how we would win possession but Brody was on top form and the midfielders did well enough.
Our full backline did reasonably well in one on one battles. Dillon was excellent against Mannion, it was runners from their half back line and midfield which caused us problems.
We created a number of chances but we missed too many. It would be worse if we didn't create any chances. Some of the passing was top class, our inside forwards created space for themselves, it was just our shooting that was off. We only scored 40% of our shots! Kingston kicked 6 and O'Carroll kicked 5 wides. We need to convert them, hopefully shooting has been worked on but as I said, the creating of those chances with the build up play and the movement inside is very positive.

Monaghan are a very good team. Should Timmons or Dillon pick up McManus? Should Walsh start? Any other changes?

I thought we were rinsed on our kickouts especially when they pressed up and we went long, we lost 11 of these. it wasn't helped that we allowed a free man to sit on their half back line and collect anything that broke. we still need a reliable freetaker on the team, donie and evan are too hit and miss. I wonder is drew wylie back from suspension.

Yes but I was expecting it to be much worse! When we got tired the second half it went downhill a bit. We knew they'd push up but we coped well with it in the first half. Should Gary Walsh start for the freetaking?

Let's look at the positives from the Dublin game and see what we can work on.

Our kickouts went well. I was worried with how we would win possession but Brody was on top form and the midfielders did well enough.
Our full backline did reasonably well in one on one battles. Dillon was excellent against Mannion, it was runners from their half back line and midfield which caused us problems.
We created a number of chances but we missed too many. It would be worse if we didn't create any chances. Some of the passing was top class, our inside forwards created space for themselves, it was just our shooting that was off. We only scored 40% of our shots! Kingston kicked 6 and O'Carroll kicked 5 wides. We need to convert them, hopefully shooting has been worked on but as I said, the creating of those chances with the build up play and the movement inside is very positive.

Monaghan are a very good team. Should Timmons or Dillon pick up McManus? Should Walsh start? Any other changes?

Let's get real here. If we were in division 3 this year and played to the standard we have been up to now, we'd be relegated. That's my opinion, don't know if anyone would agree with that. My only hope is that the squad have been training hard, working on fitness and just taking the games as they come.
If not we're in trouble. We should beat carlow but play as poorly as we have in other matches and we'll lose. Simple as that. We've beaten no one of note in the past few years and have lost to antrim twice. We belong in division 4. I think supporters and players believing we're better than we are is part of the reason we're down here.
I'm hoping Sugrue can change the mindset, we have no given right to beat any team. Train hard, act appropriately off the field, put the work in and we'll make progress.
This has not happened in the past few years and it's why we're in division 4.

With the way the Rathnew Vincents game went, it's a real shame that Portlaoise didn't make it past moorefield. It was really there for the taking and this one will be hard to take for them.

But I totally agree with High Fielder - If you want to raise your standard across the board, far more players in the Town need to commit to Laois. I'm not saying 8 - 10 Portlaoise lads will make the starting 15 for Laois - of course not. But by being in contention and adding competition to the Laois Squad it can really stand to both squads in the long term. Realistically, about 7 or 8 Portlaoise lads can make a big difference to the Laois SQUAD.

Offhand, I'd say Town lads who can do well on to the Laois Squad are : Brody, Healy, Lillis, Boyle, Dillon, Cotter, Cahilane and maybe Holland, Seale, Glynn could add something too.

Although fine footballers, I think with pace being of such importance in the modern game, a few of those you listed have been tried and just don't have it for the top level. Also a few of those listed don't have the physique for the modern game, they need a few years in the gym, something that should have begun years ago.

Portlaoise had the game won until the absolutely stupid sending off. They blew it, Leinster championship was there for the taking this year. There wasn't many players that stood out as inter county standard apart from the one's we already know; Cahilane, Brody. Dillon struggled I thought, some of the backs might be worth a go. The best player on the pitch was Jack O'Connors son, is he getting the call up for Kildare?

Massive loss but if he's not in now he shouldn't be allowed in later. We all know it takes a massive effort and huge commitment at this level so you can't just come in after the league and hope to be in the right condition. It's just not possible anymore. We can't complain if lads want to do other things or take a break, it's worse if they join up and are not 100% committed.
I'm hoping Sugrue will actually be strict on this. We've had lads dropping in and out for the past few years and they're just not prepared. Also if lads join up and they're caught drinking every weekend or not putting it in then they should be kicked off the panel. It doesn't matter what their names are.
We've let an awful attitude develop within the squad and it's why we are where we are. As I said, we can't complain about lads deciding it's not for them this year but we can complain if we're spending a lot of money following them and they're unfit and way off the pace because of personal choices.

2013: Clare 0-10 Laois 3-17
2017: Laois 0-14 Clare 2-18

What has happened in 4 years? Have our players regressed that much? Clare improved by that much? A mixture of both?

Creedon can't stay on, he wasn't dealt the strongest hand but he failed to get the best out of the players so we have to look elsewhere. Unfortunately we're not an attractive proposition right now.

Yeah Billy always gave 100%. He still goes to all the games, after Creedon I agree that we could do a lot worse than having Billy involved in some capacity.