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I have been to many a club game in O'Moore park and my opinion the atmosphere is dead it's to big supporters are too spread out and it's not like the club games of years back. Years back you wouldn't miss a games even if the game itself was poor the atmosphere was great. We need to get the games out of our county grounds and back to the club grounds. Some good grounds around county now

Im gone well past it (not that i ever had it) but i always liked playing in o moore park as did anyone iv ever played with or against.

Mountrath have a lovely field too but the senior games are likely to stay in portlaoise i would imagine.
I dont know why you would want the games elsewhere to be honest as there is seating and always nice to bump into people you know for a chat

To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.

I don't think it was suggested that any of the current management made this remark? If I was to hazard a guess though, I'd say it came from a former U21 management member from a neighbouring club of Conors.
But let's be realistic, "tapping" up of players happens all over the place.

There are a number of vested interests here;

1) The County Board- who don't seem to want to get too involved. They need to tidy things up. Examples being the Portlaoise/DRA thing and also the Gaels amalgamations they allowed through. They have promised to do both.
I also note that they have pledged to help Kyle draft a motion to bring to congress next year that would allow these "Gaels" teams compete at provincial level. This won't be successful, and I don't think it should be. I'd be very sympathetic to the likes of Kyle, BUT, while this change might suit clubs like Kyle it would seriously compromise the integrity of the club championships.

2) The smaller clubs around the county. These are entitled to continue as separate entities for as long as they wish to. They are also entitled to question any proposed outward transfers. Why wouldn't they. They have a duty to their own club first, not to strengthen their more illustrious neighbours.

3) The bigger clubs around the county. These clubs are entitled to want the shot at provincial championship glory should they win a county final. They are also more than entitled to accept players who wish to transfer in.

4) The juvenile situation.......To repeat myself, being allowed to hop into bed with whoever you want at the various age grades is not what the GAA is based upon. It creates unfair advantages and also threatens the long term viability of individual club units.

To sort out some of the mess, some of the following;

1) Clamp down and introduce stricter guidelines for juvenile join ups. All in at every grade OR in exceptional circumstances join at a one off grade with a club from the same catchment area/locality. I travelling across clubs to join with another club, you should need to provide proof that each of the clubs you crossed over rejected your approach. Obviously this would need to be tidier.
The objective should be to get the optimum number of juvenile units, functioning as strong "clubs", not a strong "team" simply because you cobbled together the best of 3/4 clubs. 
There is no future in the strong "team" approach", strong "clubs" are what's needed.

2) When the juvenile system above is up and running, the CB should be active in going out and meeting the adult clubs involved in these juvenile amalgams. Have frank and open discussions with them, outlining possible options as regards a similar arrangement at adult level.

Nobody is forcing anyone to join up at adult level. But there should be a "gentle forcing" of this at juvenile level. Based around the basic idea of (whisper it) what we used to call "parish". It doesn't have to be (whisper it) restricted to parish. But it should be "geographically logical" and "numerically logical".

If we managed to reach a situation where there were long term stable units at juvenile level, we'd be along the way to the same at adult level.

On the hurling side of things there are some very stable juvenile arrangements;

1) Borris Kilcotton
2) Rathdowney Errill
3) Castletown Slieve Bloom
4) Rosenallis
5) The Harps
6) Portlaoise
7) Abbeyleix
Hopefully now Raheen Parish Gaels join them there- St Fintan's would have been on that list.
There are probably more than the above also.

Then there are a few that are mostly stable!
8 ) Clough Ballacolla
9) Camross
8&9 here have been known to jump in with neighbours- see the bedhoppers below.

Then there are those striving for stability like
10) Ballinakill.

Then you have the bedhoppers-
11) Mountrath
12) Ballyfin
13) Clonaslee
14) Mountmellick
15) Park Ratheniska

8,9 and 10 above would/will join the 1-7 easily enough.
11-15 need to be coaxed into deciding they have the numbers to go it alone, or else commit to somebody.
Ballypickas, Kyle and Trumera are probably going to find it difficult to find anyone to accommodate them on equal terms.

Bit of a ramble, but until the juvenile end of things is given more stability, the adult end of things will never have it, and contentious transfers will always be on the agenda.

For i am only guessing myself and id like to rectify that i dont know who allegedly said what either and i agree with every other word about stability instead of these short marriges

http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

Autistic?

He might have meant artistic? Autocorrect? Typo?

It doesn't correct to or from artistic on my phone.

Hi Don, sorry but i did mean artistic, nokia lumia is the phone i have and it auto corrects, i didnt proof read the comment and i also have a brother with autism  and merely meant ut was a created work of fiction. Apoligies for seeming to imply otherwise.

To stay on topic, Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois Seniors after his performances in the u21..he didnt go citing that he wasnt ready. Had mark delaneys allegstion been true he wouldnt of been asked.
Knowing Owen Coss he would not put tell a hurler from a small club to leave when they are struggling.

I don't understand why Kyle are making such a fuss now, they have gone along before with Arien Delaney & Darren Gilmartin to Camross, James maher to Roscrea all of whom were there best hurlers at the time, & they benefit more than most with fella's from Roscrea, coolderry etc transferring into them.
At the end of the day it comes down to this young fella wanting to hurl at a higher level, with a team he's hurled with from u12 upwards, what will happen now is he won't hurl at all.

There was a time at least half of the team was from Roscrea. A policy of accept anyone but let nobody leave is not the way to do things.
I agree with a comment above that a gaels amalgamation shouldnt happen to please one player, They were joined with Trumera last year and threw a hissy fit when there wasnt enough kyle players playing even though 3-5 kyle lads was the maximum that ever bothered to turn up training, blamed Anthony Coffey for being a b@llix and now want some senior team to sacrifice the prestige of playing in the provincial championships for one player...yeah poor kyle

I see Adrian Kelly is gone back to home club in Tipp. On gaa transfers live list.

http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

Scaremongering at its finest but haven't seen many intercounty lads at junior b level. I'm sure a few wise heads on this forum may tell me otherwise.

Yes thats true, I dont know about junior b but was carrick riveratown junior a when ger oakley played for offaly?

http://www.leinsterexpress.ie/news/sport/236410/county-selector-allegedly-told-player-to-leave-club-to-remain-on-laois-panel.html

Hardly a shock but not right all the same

Conor Quinlan was asked up to the Laois senior panel pre season and opted not to himself. This seems to be an autistic work of fiction by Mark Delaney

Cha Starting full forward, Paddy Purcell back in midfield
Not a bad team to face kerry tomorrow

ogie
you are right by saying that our backs are off the mark but then we are trying out a few newcomers
downey i would not drop he is a very honest player there is plenty of room for scully i do think that we will
beat kerry offaly will be a different ball game

From what iv seen in the walsh cup i am impressed by eanna lyons work rate, he wont set the scoreboard alight but he has a good work rate amd good under a high ball

Challenge in UL,yesterday

Laois 0-07 Tipperary 5-27

Oh dear!!

Silly season for another few weeks if motion went through last night. Never seen as much talk of transfers and amalgamation lamas much as this year. Interesting weeks ahead.

What motions are they putting through? What is it all about?

Keyser we're not trying to tell ye how to run things in Kyle just to point out there are other ways. Fair play with your memory going back to Kieran Carey., one of the most decorated hurlers in the country.

And hes son plays corner back for knock, he is dangerous on the field but literally a gentleman off it

HurlingMad and Hurling1 alot of yer posts concern Kyle, maybe ye should get together and come up with a proposal to show them the way! Should be easy organise a meet up 

There is no great work in "objecting" to any outward transfer and putting the onus on the player moving to provide a case as to why he should move.
I, for one, don't agree with the Knock method of allowing players to feck off and play with another club during their best days, and to be welcomed back with open arms after. That is not ok in my book. Being a feeder club for your bigger neighbour and welcoming back the scraps later on in their career.

Kyle play in Laois, there is nobody obvious for them to amalgamate with in Laois due to their location. Neither Camross nor Borris Kilcotton would entertain an "amalgamation". Why would they?
Moving counties is a massive decision and one that very few clubs would actually take. I don't think they should be castigated for not doing this.

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30

That is nice of them!

I dont know where you get your keyboard agressivness from, but manners sure dont cost a lot, I however dont wish you any badness, God bless

A discussion about a known transfer on a club transfer forum that happens to be about Kyle. And if hurling1 and and Kyle lads would like to meet up, I will be in ianos friday having a nice cold pint if they would like to join me

Because Kyle object to all transfers very few ever return. The other half of the parish Knock allow their players transfer mostly to Roscrea to play Senior Hurling and most return and play for Knock for many years after .

Yes that is true, The Flynns, Joe Caroll and the davies and ryans have all pledged to return to knock by the time they are 30

[denied]

Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work

The word "denied" is misleading here. No club can "deny" any transfer. They can "object", the transfer then goes to a hearing involving the County Board, the player and both clubs involved in the transfer. If there is a case for the transfer (i.e. if it fits within the criteria for which transfers can be granted) then the "objection" will be thrown out.

As regards Kelly returning to his home club, there is no way to stop somebody returning to their "Home Club/First Club", and residency etc is not required. This is particularly the case when transferring between two different counties. This would be my reading of Rule 6.6 (B). On page 72 here (http://www.gaa.ie/mm/Document/TheGAA/RulesandRegulations/12/19/54/2015OfficialGuide-Part1_English.pdf)

Overall, Kyle have been "robbed" of many talented players through the years, going back as far as Kieran Carey in the 1950s. Other prominent out migrators include Arien Delaney and Darren Gilmartin.
Many clubs have a policy of objecting to all outward transfers. Sometimes players blink when faced with the prospect of a "hearing" and don't fancy the hassle. The player will often end up togging out for the team they wanted to leave a few months later. All is forgiven.
This policy of "objecting to all" also means nobody feels hard done by or personally targeted.

If Kyle operate this policy it is hard to blame them! Survival is at stake.

Okay then it went to vote and was objected to
They have had talented hurlers through the years there is no doubt about it but as someone above stated maybe it is time they spend tge time and energy they use objecting to transfers of lads who get cheesed off because nobody goes training and turns up to matches when it comes to championship and work on amalgamating to secure good training and a competitive team for every hurler

Did the Transfer of Quinlan from Kyle to B/K go through after?

Kyle denied his transfer along with Adrian Kelly who wants to go back to his home club in Ballinahinch in Tipperary which is quite bitter considering its his home club

Heard that from a member of B/K at work