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How will these rejected transfers be overturned by the DRA? I've heard there is damning evidence proving that they are not living at there so called "addresses". I believe the clubs to which they are transferring to are trying to drive a wedge between the player and their home club. Clever but horrible .

It actually doesn't bother me either way. But I like consistency and transparency. I have no interest in one rule for one and something completely different for another.

There is no such rule to retrospectively cancel transfers. I was being facetious. My broader point was that where people live has never been that much of a factor before, and that is commonly known. Why now?

Josephs role in this is despicable . No better than A certain club which you often berate . Same tactics used. The county board has changed it process and its great to see. The only hope is that it continues .l

Interesting to turn down transfers IF an address was produced and proof of residence there (whether real or not!). I can't see how you can be stopped from moving to hurl with the club where you reside!
Not saying I agree with these or any transfers internally, especially in a small county like Laois where distance is rarely an issue.

Also the "standing down for one year" is a myth. Your club is your club and remains so until such time as you are granted a transfer.
You can transfer out of the county easily enough.
But if you wish to return to that county within 2 years you must go back to the club you came from!

Lower Ballyadams is a lovely spot I hear

 I hear they resisted your attempts Monument Road but then again Killeen are a more talented outfit 😉

It's simply not true to say that the majority of Barrowhouse lads resented playing with Joseph's. Those that were good enough got their game and won medals. I think someone on here is talking for a disgruntled one or two.

The issue with the jersey is an aside, and I would fully expect Barrowhouse to feel wronged if they weren't represented on the kit. But let's not get lost here. It is Dalys decision to request the move. He hasn't been coerced in any way. That is the fact of the matter as much as some people can't swallow it

Exactly the Elite prospered the rest were left behind. You have answered my question exactly the move happened as many youngsters were not getting games. Daly the Baldwins would have been Laois under 21s/ seniors with or without Josephs. The Daly thing just brought the debate to a head. You can be blinded by success at underage level. When it is really about developing players so that they can contribute to the clubs adult team.

Josephs have caused this by not treating Barrowhouse as an equal partner. The coercion or otherwise of Daly was the straw that broke the camels back.

Some of the posters going back and forward on this are clearly St Josephs and/or Barrowhouse. I have one important question.
When Josephs and Barrowhouse seemingly discussed a Gaels amalgamation last year at lenght. What stopped it from happening.
Was it Barrowhouse with unrealistic demands or Josephs refusing to bend?
I think it is an important question. If it was the former, then Barrowhouse have really cut their nose off to spite their face.

No demands were ever made about changing a jersey. This is pure speculation and wholly inaccurate. This is being confused with the juvenile amalgamation who were laughed at when Barrowhouse asked for a change of jersey to reflect the amalgamation. There has been an ill feeling from the majority of the Barrowhouse players about playing with Josephs even at Juvenile level for some time. The Daly situation reinforces this further. The amalgamation was going to kill Barrowhouse. Countless lads left on the line and starting to drift away from the game . Yes the elite prospered but the average player didn't get a run even if he was on a par of his Josephs counterparts. There is no room for development.

Josephs rejected the gaels team. Why only they can answer. Barrowhouse in my opinion didn't really care that it was rejected. There was no real appetite for it.They tried their best to facilitate Brian Daly.
The new amalgamation is a more equal footing. Barrowhouse having a lot of players from under 16 down. They need to be getting games which they were not in Josephs. In reality I know people will argue it suited Barrowhouse (Success etc etc) but it didn't they were the junior party and were treated as such.

Josephs have forced Barrowhouse's hand and they have acted.

And you do?

The lad himself wants to leave. Remember that.

Does he? As I said you haven't a clue.

I wouldn't think anyone from St Josephs forged his signature on his application, or anyone from ST josephs insists he wears the St Josephs gear ALL of the time both in public and on social media.

I know men like Paddy Doyle and Paddy Barry wouldn't have let this happen . They were absolute gentlemen and morally upright . This current Josephs executive and yeer (monument road and high fielder)behaviour is not befitting those two Josephs legends.

And you do?

The lad himself wants to leave. Remember that.

Does he? As I said you haven't a clue.

You should be proud to make that statement, and you are. Fair play. I'm not part of the Jospehs club and I implied nothing. I would say the majority (note the word majority) of his coaching would have been done in Kellyville. f**k it I'll declare that as fact. Come back to me when you can disprove that.

You really haven't a clue buddy.

You might have noticed I said in the jersey. I didn't see he played for Josephs per se. By all accounts, he has more in common with Josephs. Calling me an idiot won't change that.

I apologise if I hurt your feelings. You all but implied that he'd be nothing without Josephs quite an insult to the hard working juvenile coaches in Barrowhouse. Where does this inflated confidence come from? Ye haven't won a senior title of any consequence since the millennium. You can point at your under 21s but to be brutally honest if you take the grade seriously at all you'll be in a county final. Stradbally PG couldn't field a team a couple of years ago. My own parish amalgamation barely ever train for it.

True, but it's a little bit more than principle on the line here. He has probably played more in the Josephs jersey than the Barrowhouse one. He has good friendships there, has enjoyed a fair bit of success, and arguably has more of an affiliation with Josephs. It's tricky. I can see why lads might say it isn't, but I think it's a mess, and I feel sorry for the lad himself. It's As for Josephs, what is their crime?

Are you an idiot? He has never played for Josephs he represented his club in an amalgamation with Josephs .

As far as I can gather, this is Daly's wish. There is no issue with regards to poaching. He is giving a lot of commitment to football and doesn't feel Barrowhouse are similarly committed. Having asked about, it seems as if Barrowhouse's training numbers are poor, and were very bad last year despite winning a Junior. So you can see both sides, even if you mightn't agree with one or both.

The club don't have to take the player, regardless of it being his wish.

correct they don't have to but have you ever heard of that happening....let's be real here. If a player is looking to transfer why would you try stop him/her...

Doesn't make it right. We have morals or we have nothing. Josephs have plenty of their own to compete and win, this will stain any subsequent win.

Correct Don. I know of players who have tried to transfer to my own club and we refused them out of respect for our neighbours. This bull shit about training numbers being a legitimate excuse is a load of shite. Numbers can vary due to work, college commitments etc. Josephs might not have  "poached" but I know for a fact this has been actively encouraged by the very top guys in the club. Josephs had morals one time but this has obviously evaporated. Should have looked to fight relegation on the pitch rather than the board room and then this . If this is the way we are going on Laois then we are fucked.

I look forward to it .👍

Hardly madness think it's the best possible move for barrow house if the three clubs eventually do join up,I presume they will be weak enough at underage level but it's a start.Think ballylinan will suffer but maybe they have enough numbers and wanted to go by themselves, Joseph's get what they deserve...

Whole sale madness at its best. B/house will be swallowed up by the Arles group, that will cause splits( already surfacing with certain players looking and wanting  to join St Josephs.) and at the end only St Josephs benefit. The combination helped B/house enormously as seen by their recent success....the last combination between Kileen and themselves almost destroyed the club. Arles should be as was in the original Arles club. One team, one club, and one colour (Maroon) with a parish juvenile combination under the old umbrella of St Michaels

It seems Barrowhouse joining the Arles' has annoyed you greatly . If they didn't start pursuing their players then more than likely the amalgamation would have remained. Barrowhouse like Kyle, Ballypickas etc are now having to fight harder and harder for their existence. They more than likely felt under threat that Josephs would pick their talented youth. Unlike other clubs the house never had much of a history of outward transfers the Kingstons being a notable exception. This would suggest a loyalty and love of their club. But they were definitely not born and bred Barrowhouse men. The amalgamation with the Arles makes sense . 3 clubs with similar playing pools. Geographically tight  and all with the same motive to develop every single juvenile player. Josephs in reality never needed Barrowhouse to compete but they did need them to win. I'd imagine countless youngsters in the Arles' and Barrowhouse have been lost to game because they weren't getting the game time necessary and therefore unable to develop. Don't be annoyed monumental road. You may not win as much as you did but at least countless more Josephs youngsters will get games now that the Barrowhouse lads are gone .

The previous amalgamation with Killeen nearly destroyed the club. This is news to me. Care to enlighten us?

Firstly i'm most certainly not annoyed as I don't have any connection with St Josephs although I do admire them greatly and have good friends from up there.
I do agree with a lot of what you say but  I do remember in the past when B/House played with the Arles parish teams at juvenile level and it done nothing for them. The first 15 always came from that parish and Barrow house players were left sitting on the side lines. Why they decided to leave the Joes/B/house combination beggars belief as they actually benefited greatly from that agreement and always got a fair deal.

Pursuing players Pablo, are you sure of this. As far as i'm aware and i'm fairly sure of this, St Josephs never chased any player from Barrow house and never pursued some of their present players who can legally play with St josephs as they live in Ballyadams parish.

The case involving Brian Daly is a personal decision by the player himself. Nothing to do with St josephs.

At the end of the day if Daly is refused his request, St Josephs will march on anyway. Barrow House will be at the beck and call of the Arles clubs and when they do join up Barrow house will be left to fend for themselves. Pity

Firstly I'm glad we cleared up that you are not a Josephs man 😂. Secondly Barrowhouse should be thanking Josephs for not poaching more of their players .  If Joseph's were the club I thought they were then they would have told Daly to F off with his transfer (if there is even a transfer, you seem to know more than most). I know it's not universally popular within the club you admire. By entertaining the transfer they have disbanded the almalgamation. I hope you can realise that.

I always thought Josephs did things the right way but ever since the whole relegation debacle I've begun to lose respect. This just adds to it.

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