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Gotta love tinternet. For years weve had celtic and rangers fans arguing over whether rangers are defunct and now its celtic and celtic fans. This is great. Carry on. As you were 😃

Think you will find these wum clowns are liverpool,  Leeds, and man Utd fans... not Celtic fans

They just lack manners and class.
Why else would you be on a thread posting jibes about a team you don't like and are in some way jealous of...

Remember that your supporting evidence cones from the daily record...
Plus are citing fifa...
The same fifa who identify the north of Ireland soccer team as a 'country'.

So if you agree with all that makey uppy stuff.. then you and the tooth fairy a long with sevco newco rangers can sail away into the Brexit sunset and vote dup to your hearts content! 

Allegations about Whyte's business career would soon emerge. But not before he plunged Rangers into administration, exacerbating HMRC's grievance with the club by ceasing to pay PAYE and VAT in 2011, thus building up an inarguable, unpaid tax bill to the taxman. It left Rangers facing an actual tax bill of £20m and a potential tax bill of £50m- plus. A creditors agreement duly failed and when Rangers FC plc was finally consigned to liquidation in June 2012 it was HMRC which dealt the fatal blow. The Scottish newspapers ran headlines such as: "RIP Rangers... 140 Years of History Comes to an End."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/18/how-the-mighty-glasgow-rangers-have-fallen

Legally it's  not the  same club.

All the sentiment in the world can't change that.

Rangers are the most successful club in Scotland. They win another league and they have 55. Sure FaiFA clarified this a few years ago.

Did they now ? Have you got a link please ? Saying something over and over again will never make it true. They were liquidated and we all know that means. As i said previously their next title will be their first.

Yeah Rangers start from scratch . . . what planet are you on???

They play on the same pitch, have the same fans bear the same crest and name and jersey but they're a different club??

Just because you say it doesn't make it so!! Any regular person who isn't a Celtic fan recognises that to all intents and purposes it's the same club!!!

For all intents and purposes ? Is that all you've got. They were liquidated and left a pile of debts in their wake. They couldn't even pay the kids face painter 200 odd quid. They went out of business and no amount of history airbrushing can change that. Yes they have the same fans and grounds but that's it. When Celtic were at deaths door Fergus McCann and the fans dug deep, paid every penny to the debtors and survived. Rangers didn't and they (and their history) died. The tribute act (aka Sevco) played Aberdeen today.

I find it amusing how people are so jealous of Celtic fc that they post such hilarious inane bullsiht!!!

I don't mind Celtic. Good luck to them etc. But this blind faith, more than a club, we're a big Irish parish, Rodgers is a cheating sex addict shite is embarrassing. They're a football business.
There's also a huge sectarian element that's just glossed over. Both Celtic and Rangers feed off this to try and generate profits, which makes me a little uneasy.

You obviously don't know much about Celtics's history then.

What part is he wrong about? He's right about clubs having major issues with sectarian abuse towards opposing teams. Only this week I listened to scottish journalist discussing the issue. Steve Clarke had problems with sectarian abuse from Rangers fans and Kris Boyd got sectarian abuse from Celtic fans. Neither club seems to be doing anything to try and stamp it out and its always been there. You only have to see the poisonous atmosphere at old firm games on the tv no matter who's at home. One reason why I try to discourage my son from watching Celtic or scottish football

maybe do your research before posting such uninformed statements.

That's like saying you wouldn't let your son support Dublin in Gaelic football because they are known to be drunk, tattoo wielding, dole cheating , drug involved scumbags

If you don't like Celtic that's fine.
Interesting you are posting your ill informed misinformed statements on a Celtic thread

So youre saying the main sports writer for a scottish newspaper, steve clarke and Kris Boyd are all wrong and sectarianism doesn't exist in scottish football. I mean, maybe you're right. What would they know. They only live in scotland and either play for report on or mangage scottish premier league teams. As someone who lives in Ireland I assume you clearly understand how things work in scotland and scottish football far better.

I'm pointing out the facile examples you put up.

If the culprits were caught would they face charges of sectarianism for throwing a coin?
No. It's assault or attempted asset.

Your point about neither club ( in fact most clubs in Scotland)
Doing anything about it is also 100%  incorrect.
Go check your facts.

I didn't say sectarianism didnt exist- hence my point that Scottish clubs are trying to take measures to address it.

You don't like Celtic. Fine. But would you believe the bs from journalists about the drunken dubs fans, the drugs being taken on hill 16, poisonous atmosphere from hill 16 etc etc.. 
..would you believe that?
Would you stop your son going to croker and not support Dublin because you read that?

I was a Celtic season ticket holder for 10 years and get over to games every year. Never saw any issues.

You are still posting your ill informed carp on a Celtic thread...

If you don't like Celtic.. why bother reading this thread?

But theyre not addressing it. Steve Clarke is raising his kids outside of glasgow and is delighted they dont know what sectarianism is. That's a damning indictment of both clubs so called efforts to clean up their act. All this holier than thou nonsense and rubbish spouted that its not as bad as Liverpool ot Utd is just nonsense.

Why dont more Irish fans support Hibernian? Wasn't one of their founders an Irish man? Problem there is they arent as successful as Celtic and no bandwagon to jump aboard. If its one thing Irish fans do well is get behind a winning team

I won't resort to your level.

Go check it out.
All the Scottish clubs are a dressing it.

Get yiur head out of the sand

Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
I'm sure the hooligan element is as bad if not worse in England.
.. songs about plane crashes, collapsing stadia and organised fighting after or before games...

Same thought process coukd be applied to 75% of Dublin fans... their ancestry is culchie... so surely they should be following leitrum or longford etc

Your arguments are without any research or understanding.

Plus again.. if you hate Celtic..  why comment here.
Your kid  has some role model... and is going to be  equally as socially ignorant and inept it would seem

Its as bad now as it was 20 years ago. Thats not me saying it thats scottish press who can look on it in a non biased way. Its farcical how Irish people, living in Ireland seem to think sectarianism isnt a big deal in scotland. Yet theyll criticise Liverpool and Utd fans and claim theyre worse for singing songs.

Im amazed Lennon went back to Celtic (and his family agreed) given all the s**te he had to deal with on and off the pitch. No amount of money is worth that. I cant belive hed want tje job on a full time basis (or his family would let him take it)

Scottish press impartial? Really?

I wouldn't trust the Scottish press at all. This is the press that printed a story with the tagging 'Barry Fergusson:my kids want to know why I'm being called an orange b**tard' with a photo showing Barry with said kids, one of whom is wearing a scarf with the words you can stick you rosary up your arse.

I'm a Celtic fan and I'm not blind. We have idiots in our support, the video posted above being an example. But the Scottish press label rebel songs as sectarian which they aren't. Their relevance at games is a different debate. I also lived in England for a long time and our fans are nowhere near the level of idiocy as English football fans

When you have had innocent family members killed by republican terrorists, I would beg to differ re Rebel songs not being sectarian

I am genuinely sorry to hear that Michael but which rebel songs donyou think are sectarian

Not that well up on my rebel.songs tbh. I just think it's totally unnecessary to sing songs that celebrates an organisation that killed so many innocent people. It's also totally unnecessary to sing such at a sporting event.

Moaning about something you nothing about?
Like I said... you are looking to be offended.

I don't use the deaths of my friends and relations.
Poor show in doing so imo.

I'd hope that yiud similarly boycott the north of Ireland games too for their choice of (worse) songs commemorating  murder of taigs etc etc

I don't know too many Irish that take such offence at Billy boys, or rule britannia etc etc
Even though they could do so more than yourself..

To be fair Celtic FC don't want and actively have tried to stop Irish rebel songs at Celtic park.
They want to be seen to be going ott out of their way to sterilize songs in order to placate those idiots pretending to take offence. Which has made the fans sing them more

I don't mind Celtic. Good luck to them etc. But this blind faith, more than a club, we're a big Irish parish, Rodgers is a cheating sex addict shite is embarrassing. They're a football business.
There's also a huge sectarian element that's just glossed over. Both Celtic and Rangers feed off this to try and generate profits, which makes me a little uneasy.

You obviously don't know much about Celtics's history then.

What part is he wrong about? He's right about clubs having major issues with sectarian abuse towards opposing teams. Only this week I listened to scottish journalist discussing the issue. Steve Clarke had problems with sectarian abuse from Rangers fans and Kris Boyd got sectarian abuse from Celtic fans. Neither club seems to be doing anything to try and stamp it out and its always been there. You only have to see the poisonous atmosphere at old firm games on the tv no matter who's at home. One reason why I try to discourage my son from watching Celtic or scottish football

maybe do your research before posting such uninformed statements.

That's like saying you wouldn't let your son support Dublin in Gaelic football because they are known to be drunk, tattoo wielding, dole cheating , drug involved scumbags

If you don't like Celtic that's fine.
Interesting you are posting your ill informed misinformed statements on a Celtic thread

So youre saying the main sports writer for a scottish newspaper, steve clarke and Kris Boyd are all wrong and sectarianism doesn't exist in scottish football. I mean, maybe you're right. What would they know. They only live in scotland and either play for report on or mangage scottish premier league teams. As someone who lives in Ireland I assume you clearly understand how things work in scotland and scottish football far better.

I'm pointing out the facile examples you put up.

If the culprits were caught would they face charges of sectarianism for throwing a coin?
No. It's assault or attempted asset.

Your point about neither club ( in fact most clubs in Scotland)
Doing anything about it is also 100%  incorrect.
Go check your facts.

I didn't say sectarianism didnt exist- hence my point that Scottish clubs are trying to take measures to address it.

You don't like Celtic. Fine. But would you believe the bs from journalists about the drunken dubs fans, the drugs being taken on hill 16, poisonous atmosphere from hill 16 etc etc.. 
..would you believe that?
Would you stop your son going to croker and not support Dublin because you read that?

I was a Celtic season ticket holder for 10 years and get over to games every year. Never saw any issues.

You are still posting your ill informed carp on a Celtic thread...

If you don't like Celtic.. why bother reading this thread?

But theyre not addressing it. Steve Clarke is raising his kids outside of glasgow and is delighted they dont know what sectarianism is. That's a damning indictment of both clubs so called efforts to clean up their act. All this holier than thou nonsense and rubbish spouted that its not as bad as Liverpool ot Utd is just nonsense.

Why dont more Irish fans support Hibernian? Wasn't one of their founders an Irish man? Problem there is they arent as successful as Celtic and no bandwagon to jump aboard. If its one thing Irish fans do well is get behind a winning team

I won't resort to your level.

Go check it out.
All the Scottish clubs are a dressing it.

Get yiur head out of the sand

Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
I'm sure the hooligan element is as bad if not worse in England.
.. songs about plane crashes, collapsing stadia and organised fighting after or before games...

Same thought process coukd be applied to 75% of Dublin fans... their ancestry is culchie... so surely they should be following leitrum or longford etc

Your arguments are without any research or understanding.

Plus again.. if you hate Celtic..  why comment here.
Your kid  has some role model... and is going to be  equally as socially ignorant and inept it would seem

Its as bad now as it was 20 years ago. Thats not me saying it thats scottish press who can look on it in a non biased way. Its farcical how Irish people, living in Ireland seem to think sectarianism isnt a big deal in scotland. Yet theyll criticise Liverpool and Utd fans and claim theyre worse for singing songs.

Im amazed Lennon went back to Celtic (and his family agreed) given all the s**te he had to deal with on and off the pitch. No amount of money is worth that. I cant belive hed want tje job on a full time basis (or his family would let him take it)

Scottish press impartial? Really?

I wouldn't trust the Scottish press at all. This is the press that printed a story with the tagging 'Barry Fergusson:my kids want to know why I'm being called an orange b**tard' with a photo showing Barry with said kids, one of whom is wearing a scarf with the words you can stick you rosary up your arse.

I'm a Celtic fan and I'm not blind. We have idiots in our support, the video posted above being an example. But the Scottish press label rebel songs as sectarian which they aren't. Their relevance at games is a different debate. I also lived in England for a long time and our fans are nowhere near the level of idiocy as English football fans

When you have had innocent family members killed by republican terrorists, I would beg to differ re Rebel songs not being sectarian

Whether you are taking offence or not... it's terrible to have had family members killed by one side or the other, as I have had too. lives ruined by government backed police and army, intimidation from the same state law enforcement people let alone the hoardes of people trying to join in... and again they are all Innocent  like those you speak of.
Yes there are many things that cause offence on both sides.
I'm sure the songs and emblems existed before all those innocents died.
The state and paratroopers, the marching through areas they've no right to be in etc causes offence to both sides.
But the GFA means we just get on with it. It's life. Countkess People who have experienced wars through the centuries have had to get on with it. We must do the same.

I really laugh at people finding and taking offence at songs tbough. They can be more graphic on the rangers / north of ireland /loyalist/unionist side with those up to their necks in fenian blood... but I don't think too many take or want to take as much offence...

According to former Irish and Chelsea star Damien Duff... Celtic is more than a club..

Will you wee fellas write to him ( use spell checker) and put him right!! 

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033526/

Damien 'Dinosaurs' Duff. Loved Celtic so much he never actually bothered to play for them.

More than just a club. A big GAA parish. Not Sectarian. No cheesy grinned sex cheats need apply.

You're a f**king p***k

+1

Quite the argument you two intellectuals have put together there.

It obv didn't take much to match the half witted diatribe they responded to

Shouldn't you be studying?
On evidence on contributions you've made thus far, I'd suspect you'd need most of your waking hours to do so..

I know I shouldn't have and apologies to the mods but the crap this person posts just finally got the better of mE. Is there an ignore button?

I'd say they are a lot quieter in real life

I recall when internet communications initiated, there was such a thing as internet etiquette. Prob almost 3 decades ago.
In real life, just good manners.
But sitting behind a computer has caused etiquette and manners to disappear.
This causes the decent folk such as yourself to become annoyed.
There are plenty on here liked that. Most not on this soccer thread but on one or two other ones.
So forget it. I think there is an ignore function.

Walls are immoral
Infanticide is moral

Democrats in a nutshell.

Unfortunately for you, only the dumbest folks actually think that either topic can exist in a nutshell.

I don't think that all democrats are dumb. Just a lot of misguided people who feel the need to belong to a group that claims to be morally superior. This makes them feel validated. A cult mentlity if you will. God forbid you point out where they are wrong and they lose the plot.

Are you talking about the gaaboard clique or democrats?

According to former Irish and Chelsea star Damien Duff... Celtic is more than a club..

Will you wee fellas write to him ( use spell checker) and put him right!! 

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033526/

Damien 'Dinosaurs' Duff. Loved Celtic so much he never actually bothered to play for them.

More than just a club. A big GAA parish. Not Sectarian. No cheesy grinned sex cheats need apply.

You're a f**king p***k

+1

Quite the argument you two intellectuals have put together there.

It obv didn't take much to match the half witted diatribe they responded to

Shouldn't you be studying?
On evidence on contributions you've made thus far, I'd suspect you'd need most of your waking hours to do so..

According to former Irish and Chelsea star Damien Duff... Celtic is more than a club..

Will you wee fellas write to him ( use spell checker) and put him right!! 

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033526/

Damien 'Dinosaurs' Duff. Loved Celtic so much he never actually bothered to play for them.

More than just a club. A big GAA parish. Not Sectarian. No cheesy grinned sex cheats need apply.

Good luck in your 11+ /junior cert

According to former Irish and Chelsea star Damien Duff... Celtic is more than a club..

Will you wee fellas write to him ( use spell checker) and put him right!! 

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1033526/

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/3936196/celtic-fans-chant-i-hope-you-die-in-your-sleep-brendan-rodgers-in-ira-song-at-edinburgh-pub/

Best fans in Europe apparently!

Is there a point?

Are Rangers not the more successful team so surely we should all be supporting them then. Hibs are a funny team. They strangely tried to airbrush out their Irish roots. I don't know if it was to dodge the sectarian issue or a general response to the troubles. Its only in recent years they have embraced their irishness again and have the heritage as important as Leith itself once again.  This has become noticeable with the harp back on the badge and more tricolours appearing at games.

People can support who they like

I don't mind Celtic. Good luck to them etc. But this blind faith, more than a club, we're a big Irish parish, Rodgers is a cheating sex addict shite is embarrassing. They're a football business.
There's also a huge sectarian element that's just glossed over. Both Celtic and Rangers feed off this to try and generate profits, which makes me a little uneasy.

You obviously don't know much about Celtics's history then.

What part is he wrong about? He's right about clubs having major issues with sectarian abuse towards opposing teams. Only this week I listened to scottish journalist discussing the issue. Steve Clarke had problems with sectarian abuse from Rangers fans and Kris Boyd got sectarian abuse from Celtic fans. Neither club seems to be doing anything to try and stamp it out and its always been there. You only have to see the poisonous atmosphere at old firm games on the tv no matter who's at home. One reason why I try to discourage my son from watching Celtic or scottish football

maybe do your research before posting such uninformed statements.

That's like saying you wouldn't let your son support Dublin in Gaelic football because they are known to be drunk, tattoo wielding, dole cheating , drug involved scumbags

If you don't like Celtic that's fine.
Interesting you are posting your ill informed misinformed statements on a Celtic thread

So youre saying the main sports writer for a scottish newspaper, steve clarke and Kris Boyd are all wrong and sectarianism doesn't exist in scottish football. I mean, maybe you're right. What would they know. They only live in scotland and either play for report on or mangage scottish premier league teams. As someone who lives in Ireland I assume you clearly understand how things work in scotland and scottish football far better.

I'm pointing out the facile examples you put up.

If the culprits were caught would they face charges of sectarianism for throwing a coin?
No. It's assault or attempted asset.

Your point about neither club ( in fact most clubs in Scotland)
Doing anything about it is also 100%  incorrect.
Go check your facts.

I didn't say sectarianism didnt exist- hence my point that Scottish clubs are trying to take measures to address it.

You don't like Celtic. Fine. But would you believe the bs from journalists about the drunken dubs fans, the drugs being taken on hill 16, poisonous atmosphere from hill 16 etc etc.. 
..would you believe that?
Would you stop your son going to croker and not support Dublin because you read that?

I was a Celtic season ticket holder for 10 years and get over to games every year. Never saw any issues.

You are still posting your ill informed carp on a Celtic thread...

If you don't like Celtic.. why bother reading this thread?

But theyre not addressing it. Steve Clarke is raising his kids outside of glasgow and is delighted they dont know what sectarianism is. That's a damning indictment of both clubs so called efforts to clean up their act. All this holier than thou nonsense and rubbish spouted that its not as bad as Liverpool ot Utd is just nonsense.

Why dont more Irish fans support Hibernian? Wasn't one of their founders an Irish man? Problem there is they arent as successful as Celtic and no bandwagon to jump aboard. If its one thing Irish fans do well is get behind a winning team

I won't resort to your level.

Go check it out.
All the Scottish clubs are a dressing it.

Get yiur head out of the sand

Just because you don't want to acknowledge it doesn't mean it isn't happening.
I'm sure the hooligan element is as bad if not worse in England.
.. songs about plane crashes, collapsing stadia and organised fighting after or before games...

Same thought process coukd be applied to 75% of Dublin fans... their ancestry is culchie... so surely they should be following leitrum or longford etc

Your arguments are without any research or understanding.

Plus again.. if you hate Celtic..  why comment here.
Your kid  has some role model... and is going to be  equally as socially ignorant and inept it would seem

I don't mind Celtic. Good luck to them etc. But this blind faith, more than a club, we're a big Irish parish, Rodgers is a cheating sex addict shite is embarrassing. They're a football business.
There's also a huge sectarian element that's just glossed over. Both Celtic and Rangers feed off this to try and generate profits, which makes me a little uneasy.

You obviously don't know much about Celtics's history then.

What part is he wrong about? He's right about clubs having major issues with sectarian abuse towards opposing teams. Only this week I listened to scottish journalist discussing the issue. Steve Clarke had problems with sectarian abuse from Rangers fans and Kris Boyd got sectarian abuse from Celtic fans. Neither club seems to be doing anything to try and stamp it out and its always been there. You only have to see the poisonous atmosphere at old firm games on the tv no matter who's at home. One reason why I try to discourage my son from watching Celtic or scottish football

maybe do your research before posting such uninformed statements.

That's like saying you wouldn't let your son support Dublin in Gaelic football because they are known to be drunk, tattoo wielding, dole cheating , drug involved scumbags

If you don't like Celtic that's fine.
Interesting you are posting your ill informed misinformed statements on a Celtic thread

So youre saying the main sports writer for a scottish newspaper, steve clarke and Kris Boyd are all wrong and sectarianism doesn't exist in scottish football. I mean, maybe you're right. What would they know. They only live in scotland and either play for report on or mangage scottish premier league teams. As someone who lives in Ireland I assume you clearly understand how things work in scotland and scottish football far better.

I'm pointing out the facile examples you put up.

If the culprits were caught would they face charges of sectarianism for throwing a coin?
No. It's assault or attempted asset.

Your point about neither club ( in fact most clubs in Scotland)
Doing anything about it is also 100%  incorrect.
Go check your facts.

I didn't say sectarianism didnt exist- hence my point that Scottish clubs are trying to take measures to address it.

You don't like Celtic. Fine. But would you believe the bs from journalists about the drunken dubs fans, the drugs being taken on hill 16, poisonous atmosphere from hill 16 etc etc.. 
..would you believe that?
Would you stop your son going to croker and not support Dublin because you read that?

I was a Celtic season ticket holder for 10 years and get over to games every year. Never saw any issues.

You are still posting your ill informed carp on a Celtic thread...

If you don't like Celtic.. why bother reading this thread?