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Is there minor next year , I thought minor was finished.

As a matter of interest why can't they have 2 teams senior... I do remember them having 2 minor teams in the championship.

Simply declare 2 separate panel at the start of the year and off you go.

No ?

Is it not a problem for the wider GAA same as Dublin was on a smaller scale.
I've bought up this subject many times and no one it seems even want to discuss it.

We spent the whole of last winter discussing amalgamation and the problem rural clubs were having numbers wise, here we have serious numbers just waiting for someone to look after them.
Thats the issue WTF is looking after them. With the best will in the world one club couldn't look after those numbers.
The GAA at national level needs to act in regard to towns in a similar situation to Portlaoise.

Tony don't know where your getting that Higgins, Clancy are not interested.  Don't know about Malachy or Sugrue.   Billy Sheehan is not a passionate Laois Man, thus Neymar is passionate for Barcelona when he kisses the badge.  Tony I have no doubt of your passion for Laois.  Billy is a passionate GAA MAN,  but his allegiance to this county is one of convenience.   He was only here as long as it suited him and he has returned because it suited him.  I am sure he is a nice fella on a personal level,  but in my opinion he is petrol on a fire.  It is not of his making, but the County Board should they try to implement this will further drive a wedge between themselves and some of the clubs they claim to represent.  I honestly have no idea how you make Billy a passionate Laois Man.  Tony you called me an idiot when I told you Creedon was a dreadful appointment(that was last September), you also claimed that he was popular with the team (they died with their boots on for him ).  Well I am telling you the appointment of Billy Sheehan has the possiblity of being a whole lot worse(I don't doubt he has some coaching ability) but like Creedon he has no hope of being universally popular among the Laois GAA public, in fact he is quite the opposite, he is very polarising.  Without the fans, clubs, sponsors and potential players being behind you, it makes any chance of success nearly impossible.

I don't forsee Billy doing much in 3 years except getting out of Div 4 but hey ho whats 3 wasted years.

While I am passionate for Laois Football,  I won't be a mug for it.

Universal approval  !!!    are you for real, ask Micko ( during his time in Kerry) Ger Lougnane, Dave Fitz,  Harte,   Paudi,  Rochford,  have the county love him the other have well.....Laois no different at least

If we had Jim Gavin and the funding available to him where would that get us next year or  the year after     division 3  and probably back to  division 4. because we simply don't have the players.

We need someone who the players and fans respect, so that rules Banty out.

I know  what you'r saying Tony ...... but does that person actually exist.

Surly with 25% of the population a GDA should be assigned solely to Portlaoise.

Dare I say
Green shoots

what have these last few points got to do with the laois managers job???

Job description

Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

In county equivalent
Junior B

Ideal, lads be expected to have a few pints before a game then! 

Never thought of that very good

Colm ORourke made some good points last night on the bigger picture.

Joe canning article was a good read too  ..

There has to be a tiered championship

Would take a while to bed in but we would wonder then why it wasnt always there.

Local man for the laois jod and a ten year plan to try and make us competitive again ..

Yep, but in a tiered championship we are probably in the lowest tier right now!

In county equivalent
Junior B

1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

Just because someone holds a different point of view should they have to put up this level of abuse
This forum is rapidly growing down hill. Hogan Stand with all its faults has moderators.

Just to be clear (and it may well not be clear from what I wrote) that last line was regarding the opinion stated, not the poster. I know nothing of the poster.
The line

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

was in relation to the opinion offered.

Ok point taken.
Agree with Giovanni I enjoy both of ye most of the time.

Stall the ball OTF

There are a fair few lads on here who are condescending to say the least.  Keyser is well entitled to stand his ground.   

If we wanted to be on the Hogan Stand we would be there.

Standing your ground.....O !!!

1) At what point do we decide that *bing* now our players are good enough to deserve being prepared properly
2) What exactly are we going to judge this good enough against?
3) If we produce some good minor or U21 players over the next few years do we refuse to allow them to join the senior panel? In case they would be cross contaminated like!
4) What players are going to commit endless hours representing YOUR county during this "resource-less" period?

Mental. Stupid. Unbecoming. Ill-informed. (Take your pick)

Just because someone holds a different point of view should they have to put up this level of abuse
This forum is rapidly growing down hill. Hogan Stand with all its faults has moderators.

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I'm telling you that your thinking is flawed if you believe defending can be coached but attacking cant. Tell that to German FA 20 years ago who put structures in place to develop skilled players. Now they have two squads of quality playing an attractive brand of football and are the standard bearers on an international level. Bet they regret not hiring Jack Charlton instead.
What we should be doing with urgency is putting coaches in place to develop as many u6,8,10s that are well balanced, have good functional movement and using left and right sides equally. Maybe in 10-15 years we would have a team playing quality football.
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Attacking play yes , I agree can be coached but that's not what I posted.
For example could Kevin Meaney be turned in Donie Kingston in my opinion no, no matter how much coaching he gets because he doesn't have the natural ability. You could however turn for example Damian O Connor and Garrett Dillon into defenders.
Look at the Mayo for the last 30 years any amount of good footballers why aren't they able to convert or coach a few finishers from that amount of talent. Because imo they didn't have or dont have enough natural ability to work with in the first place.
High fielder is of the opinion that we don't have natural defenders and I believe defending can be coached. My post was replying in that context.
I agree with the remainder of your post.

[as opposed to kicking the ball over the bar a talent you are born with.]

I agree Butch, he was, but where would he enjoy that sort of freedom outside of Laois? This is a big part of problem. Work without the ball and tackling. I have no preference for a coach, but I think we need Mick Dempsey to come and teach us some things. Our defending is pathetic

We've had this discussion more than once HF and the good news is tackling and good defending can actually be thought as opposed to kicking the ball over the bar a talent you are born with.

I like your suggestion to bring in a coach for this purpose, that would improve things but hard and unglamorous work required for this is not part of our DNA and that needs to change.
In short whether we like it or not the "fancy dan"culture must come to an end.

Are you joking here? If not u should be banned from ever commenting on football again. Not just on the internet either, in your local pub, at the gaa field, on public transport and anywhere gaa is discussed. 

Thats pretty aggressive language you're using there, perhaps you might explain yourself.

Stop deflecting from the fact that you on here trying to rectify the ills in Laois football while holding the opinion that you can coach defending but kicking a ball between two posts is a skill you are 'born with'. This statement discredits any other comment you will ever make on coaching or games development.

I'll comment on this forum on what and as often as I wish and you or anyone else well not dictate to me what I am qualified to comment on. My comments are my own opinion and I most certainly am not trying to impose them on anyone or indeed for anyone to take them serious
Now have I hit a raw nerve here or are you trying to tell me that you are involved in coaching and development and you are the expert here and I know nothing..... and you know what you could be right. Either way I don't give s**t.