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Who would we potentially be looking at for the Senior call ups this year?
Canavan will be a cert. Steve Donaghy, Niall Devlin, Ruairi McHugh, Michael McGleenan, Conor Cush and Sean O'Donnell would be who I think will be in line.

Canavan still has another year - I believe they'll let him play it.

McHugh has another two years at U20 so too young. Cush and O'Donnell have another year each too.

Can see Donaghy, Devlin and McGleenan getting a call though. Possibly Bogue too.

The whole thing makes a joke of the gaa, greencastles appeal was thrown out by Tyrone, ulster and croke park already before the case took place

Tyrone still had the final say last night however...

No, the DRA had the final say. A group of barristers who've no doubt never even been involved in the GAA.

As far as I recall, there are only 4 Players who started at Minor level now starting for the 20's. Niall Devlin, McGleenan, Seanie O'Donnell and James Donaghy.

The top forwards in that team would have been Fullerton, Mark Devlin and Ronan McHugh. None of which are even in the squad.

The turnover of players in that regard is interesting.

Steve Donaghy and oDonnell too as far as i can remember both started that year, still a large turnover. Luke donnelly to although wears 15 and doesn't start.

All Ireland U17 QF V Kerry

S McMenamin
C Cuddy M McCann S Sweeney
S O'Donnell N Devlin J Donaghy
S Donaghy MMcGleenan
S Daly M Devlin R Campbell
A McGrath D Fullerton L Donnelly

McMenamin, ODonell, Devlin, James Donaghy, Stephen Donaghy and Luke Donnelly only ones to still start 3 years later.

Yeah I was looking at the team that played against Donegal in the ulster championship. From those six, James Donaghy and Seanie O'Donnell are still U20 next year too. 

As far as I recall, there are only 4 Players who started at Minor level now starting for the 20's. Niall Devlin, McGleenan, Seanie O'Donnell and James Donaghy.

The top forwards in that team would have been Fullerton, Mark Devlin and Ronan McHugh. None of which are even in the squad.

The turnover of players in that regard is interesting.

Any word when McKenna's (rearranged) hearing is?

Nothing would surprise me these days, this should be the most straight forward open & shut case, but hey ho

This evening

What length was his original ban?

Think its 1 game. I am certain he won't get off with it as the gaa won't want another ban to be overturned.

Agreed, although they lose either way.

If they let him off it'll further highlight that the discipline system isn't fit for purpose. If they uphold the ban it will fuel the idea of a 'two tier' system which favours certain teams over others.

3 weeks tomorrow night to proposed start of the league. Is anyone hearing whether Div 1 & 2 are actually going to start on that date? Is it the whole Greencastle thing holding it up? Or a combination of it and Tyrone panel not being finalised?

Tyrone U20 play in Ulster Final on 22nd April. I think the AI Semi final (if they get there) is 2 weeks later and the final a further two weeks (if they get there)


Hopefully it's end of May before we have to bother with Club football

"Bother with?" You sound like a great club man

Would you rather our unser 20s lose? Strange behaviour.

I would rather than 90+% of footballers in the county for the go ahead to start playing the game they train for as soon as possible.

So just to be clear, you want our county teams to be unsuccessful.

Nope, I want club football to not be stopped because of U20's, started games should still go ahead and clubs play without their U20's if necessary

That's okay to say but Clubs will never agree to that.

Conor Cush is county standard, will be a top player but can't be rushed.

Yep for sure. He hasn't played for the 20's yet due to an injury and has another year at that level too.

Tyrone are mostly playing with two out and out forwards. That's currently McShane and McCurry.

Darragh Canavan, Conor McKenna, Petey Harte, Mattie Donnelly, Richie Donnelly and maybe even Sludden could fill one of those roles. Be interested to see Kilpatrick tried too!  There's probably other squad players I haven't seen much of who can also play there.  I think Mattie Donnelly as an option would be a big blow as the ball just sticks to him inside and always good for scores when put inside. McShane has that in him too, but yet to get form this year, but it's early.

Mattie injured, Bradley, O'Neill, Brennan and Donaghy away leaves Tyrone with Conroy, Nugent and an injured Emmett McNabb to come in for McKenna McShane McCurry.
Surely they have to fall back on the U20s of Canavan, Cush, Fullerton, ODonnell and Donnelly or else call up players who stepped away last year like McAliskey, Tiernan Quinn or Daniel Kerr. Either way they need to do something to bulk up the forward options on the panel.

Agreed it's a big issue.

If we take the squad from the Kerry game at the weekend, there were no proper forwards on the sub bench except Donaghy. Our go to sub when we want to replace a forward is Liam Rafferty.

Donaghmore good value

Maybe a few years too early for Donaghmore (I'm convinced they'll win it in 4/5 years though).

Carrickmore would be my favourites.

Why is Oisin Farry playing for Fermanagh u-20's?

Who is this lad? Does he play for a Tyrone club?

Down in the programme as being from Trillick.

Coa end of the parish?

Doesn't really matter. You're supposed to play for the county your club plays in.

No, you can declare for another county to be fair to him. If you have a relevant connection.

Hearing the U20's could be under serious pressure next week. Are a few key forwards out injured and not available which will have a massive impact on the result.

Bad luck for the management if this is the case, you need a full deck to play with to give the championship a rattle at this level

Anyone on here close to the set up or know what is going on? Very quiet considering the championship is only 7 days away.

Paul Devlin has gone full paranoid apparently after last years disaster

you'll note that the squad list hasn't been released unlike previous years as he thinks it'll give too much away to opponents

why not just go u13.5, u15.5, u17.5 like the schools..no brainer.

Official Guide sets 1st January as the cut off. That would have to be changed at Congress which is highly highly unlikely.

Donaghy and McKearney were very good when they came on I thought.

If Aghyaran are successful in any form of appeal it will open a can of worms in Division 2. If the lad concerned played against any other team and those games had a direct bearing on the teams relegated (which it's bound to if he did play) they will also appeal I'm sure. Could be about to get very messy if true.

Or County Biard will just dismiss any appeals knowing the shit show that could follow...

There is a 3 day time limit on objections based on the validity of a team.

I was basing my reply of Tyrone11234s post. If what you're saying is true then that's that, too late to do anything about any indiscretion now.

So basically any club can break any of the rules and hope that the opposing club does not report them within 3 days?
They done it more than once and knew what they were doing!
So much for a club's integrity when that is their approach!

The U17 rule is ridiculous anyway and I'm sure that most Clubs in the county will have played/subbed on lads that age throughout the league (senior or reserve).

If the clubs involved weren't bothered at the time, then it makes sense that they shouldn't be allowed to object now just because greencastle won the league.

You'd imagine a very second string will play this first game?

Has to be. A few senior players didn't attend the trip, McCurry, Pete Harte, Paul Donaghy jump to mind
You'd imagine they will start along with the newcomers who played the charity game v Armagh.
Paudie McNulty could be available too.

Up to 11 subs allowed so I'd guess some more familiar faces will be introduced to the game as it goes on.

Cormac Munroe did not attend either. Paul donaghy has left the squad.

Why is donaghy away?

Understandable, season of a lifetime followed by not much football the following year.

Yeah but the 'following year' included winning an Ulster Championship, winning a Celtic Cross and playing in Croke Park in the AI final. Not exactly a bad year.

By no means a bad year but from a personal point of view, i'd imagine he values the medal which he contributed to in the way he did more. Believe management have told students to play for Universities in McKenna cup so more familiar faces on show tomorrow and less debutants you'd think.

Universities aren't in the McKenna Cup?