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whilst team in a million and stg are strongly anti-mickey they do raise an interesting point re media. the ulster herald post john carney have never written anything that would in anyway ruffle feathers. the irish news has always taken a pro ulster we need to sell papers approach to honouring mickey and the past. id love to see an article in the irish news that doesent mention 3 time all ireland winning blah blah.

lads do you think the players have jacked. no shows in a lot of places on sunday.if the sideline lose the dressing room surely it is the end?

its easy to criticise harte at this juncture but whats the point hes going nowhere. the league table doesent lie and to be honest i thought ourselves and monaghan and donegal would be battling it out for 4 5 and 6th place. the positives is we stayed up a lot of promoted teams dont. harte tried to be positive first day against roscommon with one sweeper but we coughed up an early goal and could have conceeded another 4 back to negative shite football after that. we tried to play mattie at full forward for a game and a half but couldnt risk not having him out in the must win games. we havent improved too much from last year and if anything we may have got worse. our fullbackline is our major problem not enough pace to handle the best teams without  2 sweepers. our forwards are being hung out to dry living on scraps and defending. the biggest disappointment is hartes continued need to win the mckenna cup to keep wolves from the door instead of working on our deficiencies.

for those not listening its on teamtalk so its not

its easy to slag off a team when their crap. its easy to slag of a manager when their crap, but rory gallagher take a bow positive attacking football lesson learned. anyone see mark bradley no irish passport that brexit is a hoor. feel sorry for declan bonner 8 u21s played the night how were they ever b ready for ballybofey n 4 days at least tyrone are looking after no 1. total f----

u 21 team are the golden eggs from the much vaunted acadamey hen and garvaghey coup. they are under severe pressure to deliver for benny rooster and his revamped set up maybe that explains the major turnover of players in the last 2 years. lee brennan neeeds ball and a ball winner beside him a bit like the senior set up. negative boring crap persists and the need to not be getting hammered. emmet mcnabb would have started in any u21 team outside of ulster. he has pace is direct and knows where the posts are hes just unlucky to born in a county and in a province that is trying to keep up with the big guns by negative boring play. slaughtneil against crokes today is another battle of keep ball against football. i know which team id pay money to go and watch. at least dublin and kerry are keeping the dream alive tyrone might catch up in a couple of years again.

anyone on here thinking it was just monaghan fans booing has got the red and white blinkers on im afraid. but thats par for the course with mickeys disciples. anyone trying to offer any objective analysis on here is pillorised for being anti mickey. tyrone play an awful brand of shite football. whos fault is that? ulster football is rife with it go back to the kerry game in 03 thats where the modern virus started. mcguiness improved it and harte and most of the ulster mangers club and county are now developing it further. wether your a harte fan or not you cant argue with that fact. fans are turning off it in their droves thats why harte has no views on the super 8 as it has been a consequence of his and others shite football. kids are turning off this shit in their droves. we were an embarrasment against mayo last year negative and boring and our lack of footballers badly exposed bar petey sludden and mattie. tyrone are not rated in the south bar the odd kerryman usually an o se whos paid a few bucks by the irish news and is still hurting from the noughties.

lads your right appearance shouldnt matter i take it back. apologies to all barbers beauticians and bollox shavers up and down the country.

dont think anyone on here wants mickey rid???lol. however what most people cant stand judging by the booing on sat night is the shite football. we have no one other than sludden who is willing to take the ball at pace behind a defender as he dosent worry about getting smashed. it takes balls to play that sort of game both inside and outside the white line. as for tiernan mccann he is superb in open space however once he gets closed down like the second half with 2 defensive lines his lack of football nous becomes apparent. if all irelands were handed out on hair gel fake tans sprinting quickly into space diving and not getting smashed then tyrone would have a team of allstars and mccann would be footballer of the year.

garvaghey is the problem here it cant pay for itself. wheres the true cost figures its all a bit hush hush. garvaghey needs a bigger percentage of overall income. will mickey take a pay cut if hes given a further contract? if only tyrone had beaten dublin.

glad to see conor lift sigerson great reward for the work he has put in. also great to see paddy tally finally get his just rewards. always felt he was hasrshly dealt with by mickey when he started to get a bit of credit. im sure any future management set up in tyrone must have tally top of the wishlist when mickey goes. incredible achievement not to many tyrone men have got the better of a dublin set up in the last 7 or 8 years.

ive never said ronan o neill couldnt do it ive just pointed out something he cant do. there is a difference. ronan oneill mccurry and bradley are much of a muchness. we have carried a goalkeeper for 4 years to hit frees why not carry a forward instead and a damn good one at that. or is that being too positive. im not critical im trying to be constructive. is this not a debating forum. as usual when someone dares suggest something that annoys the permanently offended mickeymen then your anti tyrone.

mattie donnelly too important a player to remain a peripheral figure on the edge of the square. i rest my case mickey is it you or is it  donkey. maybe if we played a player who would command a top defender to mark him like mattie we might get somewhere. likewise we might stop the lateral shite and the 4 sweepers to bolster mccarron mcnamee and mccrory. niall sludden runs straight at defenders thats why he is profiting. mcshane needs to start doing it bradley/oneill cant. you all deride me for lee brennan but heres the punch. a lee brennan would have beat mayo last year.if tyrone would commit men forward win the frees that their diving should hed have kicked them all day long.  mattie donnelly at ff  would neccesitate direct ball. but no we get pedalled sweepers and wee forwards win shite all with that.

mark bradley has a lot to do yet to convince he played two big games last week for uuj and tyrone and scored nowt. hardly the stuff of legend. however he may improve. big sean looks leggy but thats hardly surprising. not convinced that either of those 2 have what it takes in a ff line. mcshane might be an option in 2020. lee brennan for me all day with mattie donnelly, but that would be a leap too far for an ultra conservative sideline.

well lads its the eve of another competitive joust at the south with the rossies first up at the home of the gaa in tyrone healy park. this week is the biggest in hartes tenure in my opinion two wins and its 2 more years thanks a million rosheen cherching cherching. he still probably the best man for the job at the minute unfortunately. personally tyrone need to beat a top 3 team in croker this year ulster titles or not we cant get roscommon and tipp every year or monaghan for that matter. however as i hand over my hard earned 13 pound tomorrow im more concerned about 2 sweepers and the shite we have to pay to watch. if there 2 sweepers in place on roscommons first attack i demand a refund. its not puke football anymore tyrone have the full monty its shite as well.