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Umpire hadn't a clue if that was a point or not. He gave it as wide

I'm surprised the mark is not used like this a lot more- especially with boys who can kick from range.

It's not used more often like this as most teams don't have boys who can kick from range.

Long range? You only have to kick it 20 meters I think, if you can't kick a ball 20 meters you're fuvked

He means from the mark position, like Hughes today. A lot of players can't make that shot after the mark

Yeah that's what I mean.

The mark that Beggan set up with a 15m kick to the D is the one that any footballer should fancy taking on.

I reckon 90% of club players would go backwards or sideways from where Hughes kicked his. Most of us don't have 40m kicks in us, let alone under pressure.

Beggan hit a score from play today from just inside kilcoo's half. He just stroked it - didnt try to burst the ball. It made it over the bar with about 5 yards to spare. Don't know how he does it

I was cheering for Scotstown like a native there. As I assume was 99% of my county.

Well done the Monaghan men.

Can confirm I was too.. Hughes clutched up for Scotstown at the end there. Fantastic mark to level it and then to win the kick out

Brannigan (7) was playing great for Kilcoo but wasnt the same after that shoulder that Darren Hughes put on him. It was perfectly legal too.

Hard to feel sprry for Kilcoo

what a finish.... scotstown deserved it

It was definite penalty, easy decision for ref

After he took 8 steps?

ref beginning to lose it. Gives a bad throw up and knows he's messed up so he just scotstown a free for nothing to balance the books

Club football is a terrible terrible watch.

its awful defensive. Soft enough penalty

Scotstown should probably be ahead at HT. Very tight game. Kilcoo getting away with a lot

Surely that should have been red for the Kilcoo full back?

i thought so - very dangerous

That could easily have bene a red card

early shower for Jamie Clarke

Lee Brennan with a score that just saved football lol.

Great skill

For five years or so, nobody could touch Dublin, Mayo could give them a game, but still weren't at that level.

Dublin will be there or there abouts, no doubt. But the playing field is much more level now.

Yeah - the gap has narrowed. For me Derry should have beaten Kerry, with the rub of the green Monaghan could have beaten Dublin and Galway are perhaps the team that should have the most regrets. They really should have gone deeper. There's 5 teams straight out that that can challenge next year

The women are playing Nigeria and day 5 of the 5th Ashes test is on. That's my day sorted

[shoulder to shoulder BTW]

And thats the fine line of it.. Plenty tackles (and remember the only legal physical tackle is shoulder to shoulder BTW) in games and if a player catches the ball, because you can tackle the ball, though not rip from possession, if he connects cleanly with the ball via his fist then play on. Contact with a player with a fist is a yellow, if seen

So would that not have applied when the Kerry keeper took mcguigan in the head with his hip mid air?

Collision and not a tackle in Joe's book by the looks of it, at the very least looking back and given the opportunity to call that again, he may have stopped it for a head injury.. Its been a very split topic, as ones at the club game last night were asking me on it, I probably would have played on if I'm being honest, that's just me.

There is a directive coming from Croke and all counties are getting another in house training session next week, will involve a lot of stuff we have already done no doubt but this is a positive and hopefully reinforce rules and the like

Just wanted to ask what the focus of the in-house training was MR2?

Lots of attention on across the neck tackles. over the shoulder tackles frontal charges black card ... There was video analysis of certain games, obviously we questioned the Kerry keepers catch and collision with the Derry forward, 90% all said foul, no one said red card, not even the Derry assessor who took the session, the other 10%, old school view, he took ball man and all and if that was your club mate winning that outcome you'd be pissed off it was blown.

I think personally after the second watch, he should have stopped play for the collision, and slowly make his way to the incident to give himself time to reflect on what the call should be, those few seconds in the heat of that game would allow him to come to a better call

That's exactly what he should have done. The head injury rule gave him clearance to stop the game. The point wouldn't have been scored. I think that's the part that added insult to injury for Derry.