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[Wonder why donegal posters are so confident.]

Wonder why donegal posters are so confident. I am not confident for Tyrone but I do expect Tyrone to have a little bit too much for donegal. I looked at the donegal page on another forum and by the sounds of it Tyrone are in for a hammering. Apparently donegal are larger and more physical and have better players in nearly every position.

V. Confident for a team who have lost 2 years in a row to Tyrone, who came 2nd in division 2 and who found it difficult for large parts of the game against fermanagh

What have we got, three Donegal supporters on this thread?
Not one of us has Tyrone as anything other than favourites.
Or was my fearing you much less than Dublin too much for you to handle?

As for the Fermanagh game, I don't think I felt we wouldn't win that at any stage in that match.

If you would please re read my comment I said donegal posters in another forum where mutilple people have donegal as hot favourites. I think the match will be very close with only a few points in it. Not sure why you brought the dubs into it.

One poster on the Donegal forum on Hogan Stand happened to mention Donegal's admirable physique/athleticism  and the superior prowess of their forwards blowing Tyrone away, the rest of the posters were measured in their expectations.

I assume you missed the post about donegal having the 6 best forwards in the country. Hmmm sounds measured to be

Is everything alright?

Just had a look at Tyrone (2018, 2017) and Donegal's (2018, 2016) last two championship games against Dublin in Croke Park to see how they fared respectively.

Interestingly Tyrone's average losing margin is nearly double that of Donegal's: 9 points compared to 5.

[Donegal probably have better players all over the park and certainly have better firepower]

This has a Donegal win written all over it for me. Donegal probably have better players all over the park and certainly have better firepower. Tyrone will struggle to shut down Murphy, McBrearty, Brennan et al. I think Tyrone are very decent but compare their attacking threats and how they are depending on for scores, McShane and Donnelly who are probably midfielders more than attackers. Tyrones trump card is their sideline and their ability to make changes to win the game. I don't think Donegal possess that craft in Bonner. If it's tight Mickey Harte will come to the fore.. but I think Donegal will overpower them with their attack.

Donegal by 5

Couldn't agree with that at all. Tyrone have beaten Donegal 3 times in a row in the championship with a lot of the better players involved in both sides. Two of those victories where comfortable. Tyrone also operated in division 1 beating Dublin and Galway whereas Donegal struggled to get out division 2. If Donegal had better players all over the park I don't think these things would have happened.

I'd be happy enough now with the way we're playing that we've as much firepower if not more than Donegal. Murphy and McBreaty can both be hit and miss in big games.

The only game out of the last three that has been comfortable for Tyrone was 2017. In 2016 Donegal led for pretty much the entire game, losing to some wonder scores in injury time. Last year in Ballybofey Donegal led from before half time until around the 65th minute, that doesn't strike me as comfortable for Tyrone. You could be referring to the score but to be fair the second goal was scored in the 82nd minute, four minutes after injury time was supposed to have ended.

Anyway I'm hoping that Donegal win as we'll more than likely have to listen to Tyrone being hyped up going into the Super 8s otherwise. And we all know what happens when the Tyrone of this era have to play a semi-decent non-Ulster team in Croke Park.

Tyrone struggling against a division 4 Derry wasn't what I was expecting to see after all the discussion of their rebirth as an all out attacking superpower.

It only took Kildare to beat them last year. Galway too.

Yes and what's the point you're making exactly . Mayo are no longer the second best team in Ireland , we all know that.

Mayo seem to be building for the future from what we hear , this year is not a realistic chance of glory . 2021 you'd guess is the aim to have this squad primed , new facilities will be built, the whole "brand Mayo " thing is really taking off .

Horan will win Sam Maguire IMO ,just not yet ,hence his four year term also .

My point is that I don't agree with the poster who said that it will take a very good team to beat them this year. They were beaten by two less than good teams last year and for me beating New York isn't evidence that anything will be different this Championship.

Hon Larry, keep the faith!
Sure, they were beaten by two less than good teams last year and didn't seem to know their arses fro their elbows at the beginning of this year's league also.  But they comprehensively defeated Kerry twice afterwards, once in lousy weather in Tralee and again in good weather in Croke Park.
Kerry, btw, was the popular choice as favourites to face Dublin in the AI.
Mayo have another manager since the defeat to Newbridge and he is one with a record of excellence and have a load of new additions to the panel as well.

I think any talking up of Kerry as a contender to Dublin is highly questionable so using them as a benchmark is misguided in my opinion.

Obviously. But the same could be said for 30 other counties, regardless of who Mayo played in the league final.

And if they had played any of the rest of those counties my opinion would he the same.

It only took Kildare to beat them last year. Galway too.

Yes and what's the point you're making exactly . Mayo are no longer the second best team in Ireland , we all know that.

Mayo seem to be building for the future from what we hear , this year is not a realistic chance of glory . 2021 you'd guess is the aim to have this squad primed , new facilities will be built, the whole "brand Mayo " thing is really taking off .

Horan will win Sam Maguire IMO ,just not yet ,hence his four year term also .

My point is that I don't agree with the poster who said that it will take a very good team to beat them this year. They were beaten by two less than good teams last year and for me beating New York isn't evidence that anything will be different this Championship.

Hon Larry, keep the faith!
Sure, they were beaten by two less than good teams last year and didn't seem to know their arses fro their elbows at the beginning of this year's league also.  But they comprehensively defeated Kerry twice afterwards, once in lousy weather in Tralee and again in good weather in Croke Park.
Kerry, btw, was the popular choice as favourites to face Dublin in the AI.
Mayo have another manager since the defeat to Newbridge and he is one with a record of excellence and have a load of new additions to the panel as well.

I think any talking up of Kerry as a contender to Dublin is highly questionable so using them as a benchmark is misguided in my opinion.

It only took Kildare to beat them last year. Galway too.

Yes and what's the point you're making exactly . Mayo are no longer the second best team in Ireland , we all know that.

Mayo seem to be building for the future from what we hear , this year is not a realistic chance of glory . 2021 you'd guess is the aim to have this squad primed , new facilities will be built, the whole "brand Mayo " thing is really taking off .

Horan will win Sam Maguire IMO ,just not yet ,hence his four year term also .

My point is that I don't agree with the poster who said that it will take a very good team to beat them this year. They were beaten by two less than good teams last year and for me beating New York isn't evidence that anything will be different this Championship.

It only took Kildare to beat them last year. Galway too.

Seems a bit unfair on the youngsters that got Mayo to the final to be replaced by the old guard for the final. Can't be good for their morale.
You'd think the youngsters would gain more from a run out in Croke Park than those who have vast experience.
Horan is probably thinking this is the likes of Vaughan, Barrett, Higgins, Keegan, O'Shea and McLoughlin's only likely chance of a national title.

Outside of Dublin and Kerry, I believe Paul Kerrigan is the only current intercounty footballer to have a league medal. Walsh and Cadogan have ones but are hurlers only now.

Paul Durcan and Neil McGee both have league medals.

You're easily amused then and obviously just a cheerleader.
Hope you've your poms poms ready for Sunday.

Hope Mayo have more up front....

Was it Mayo and this one that coined the phrase...All support and no Cups...

We have plenty of Nestor cups!

What are they, training bras?

Donegal 0-2
Armagh 0-2

Morgan and McGee ent off with straight reds

From the clip I've seen on Twitter, Sheridan lucky not to be sent off for a sc**bag stamp.

Horrible stuff - deliberate attempt to break someone's leg.

Armagh's discipline under McGeeney continues to be woeful.

Never noticed stamp during match but to suggest it is McGeeneys fault is complete crap. Armagh discipline is a problem with mistimed tackling. An incident like that is an individual problem. To be fair to McGeeney you don't see Armagh diving, goading and backroom team members persistently encroaching on pitch as a general rule.

Close game tonight in terrible conditions - as bad as I have seen a game played. For me Donegal won the game in first half with Murphy goal.

https://twitter.com/RichardEvesson/status/1101936367234248705

Alan did a lot of crying that day and doesn't seem to have been able to stop since.

Enjoyed Monaghan's win. Felt they had to overcome two very poor refereeing displays. Dublin seem to get all the marginal calls. Dublin seem to go down looking for frees constantly and also the holding of the ball (esp MDMA) is unreal. Dublin continually looking for every advantage and refusing to reduce to 14 men by trying to slip MDMA back on. Gavin and his management team are clued in on all the dark arts. Thought the officials on the line should know exactly what's going on rather than looking completely f**king stupid.
McCarron and Hughes did very well despite the attention of Cooper and co.
Overall Monaghan the better team and good to see the Dubs defeated even after they tried every trick in the book.
If referees start to referee games involving Dublin with a fair hand I can see them being defeated this year.

I thought McCarron's yellow should have been a straight red and McManus should have been black carded.

Under what part of the rule should McManus have been black carded? He tripped up an opponent away from the action in a "tete la tete" confrontation. That's a yellow card offence. You  need to acquaint yourself better with the rules

A head the head confrontation?

Hoping to see something different from Tyrone this league otherwise chances are that they will again flatter to deceive and fail to do the business later on in the season.

Why would he do that after taking his team to within a whisker of his 4th ai? ...Which will certainly be picked up next year?

There must be some big cats about Tyrone.