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[but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience]

What's Kielt talking to the media got to do with anything? From what I've seen/read he has handled the situation maturely and given very little comment on it having been put under a lot of pressure from a lot of media outlets I would imagine. He is not the one under investigation so why should he do anything differently?

I take your point - but wouldn't you think saying nothing would be best? (Even the lad that McCartan hit years ago kept quiet until and after the whole thing was over.)
Who is sure Conway wasn't provoked? As someone said earlier - I've never heard of a lad getting box for doing nothing. Sure - lads get a dig to the ribs unprovoked - but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience.
Conway's not doing interviews.

Maybe your experience is limited. Let's put everything to the "JMohan" test - "I've never seen it happen before therefore...". Now you're setting yourself up as Judge Mohan and besmirching Kielt without reason. Your kettle's as black as the County Board's pot!

"No smoke without fire" is dreadful and bankrupt argument.

So you were there and you saw it?

It may be bankrupt to you but it's the real world ... I've never seen or heard of a lad getting punched in the face on a football field for absolutely no reason. I've never heard it

But even ignoring that .... the least Conway deserves is his side to be heard.

I got that bit about your experience the first time you said it. As I said, maybe your experience of "the real world" is more sheltered than mine.

One quote I've heard is that when the assailant was asked why he did it, his reply was "because I could". I don't know if that is true in this case, but I have seen and heard (of) similar incidents and sentiment many times...and not just in Derry.

That's one hell of a claim.
Maybe you need to ring McCloy with that one - looks like he's in need of statements and evidence like yours.

The only claim I make is that it was said to me. Besides according to Screenmachine, I am Seamus McCloy 

"Ballinderry took legal advice on the matter before declining the request."

I wonder who might have provided that advice?  

[but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience]

What's Kielt talking to the media got to do with anything? From what I've seen/read he has handled the situation maturely and given very little comment on it having been put under a lot of pressure from a lot of media outlets I would imagine. He is not the one under investigation so why should he do anything differently?

I take your point - but wouldn't you think saying nothing would be best? (Even the lad that McCartan hit years ago kept quiet until and after the whole thing was over.)
Who is sure Conway wasn't provoked? As someone said earlier - I've never heard of a lad getting box for doing nothing. Sure - lads get a dig to the ribs unprovoked - but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience.
Conway's not doing interviews.

Maybe your experience is limited. Let's put everything to the "JMohan" test - "I've never seen it happen before therefore...". Now you're setting yourself up as Judge Mohan and besmirching Kielt without reason. Your kettle's as black as the County Board's pot!

"No smoke without fire" is dreadful and bankrupt argument.

So you were there and you saw it?

It may be bankrupt to you but it's the real world ... I've never seen or heard of a lad getting punched in the face on a football field for absolutely no reason. I've never heard it

But even ignoring that .... the least Conway deserves is his side to be heard.

I got that bit about your experience the first time you said it. As I said, maybe your experience of "the real world" is more sheltered than mine.

One quote I've heard is that when the assailant was asked why he did it, his reply was "because I could". I don't know if that is true in this case, but I have seen and heard (of) similar incidents and sentiment many times...and not just in Derry.

[but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience]

What's Kielt talking to the media got to do with anything? From what I've seen/read he has handled the situation maturely and given very little comment on it having been put under a lot of pressure from a lot of media outlets I would imagine. He is not the one under investigation so why should he do anything differently?

I take your point - but wouldn't you think saying nothing would be best? (Even the lad that McCartan hit years ago kept quiet until and after the whole thing was over.)
Who is sure Conway wasn't provoked? As someone said earlier - I've never heard of a lad getting box for doing nothing. Sure - lads get a dig to the ribs unprovoked - but never a box in the face for nothing in my experience.
Conway's not doing interviews.

Maybe your experience is limited. Let's put everything to the "JMohan" test - "I've never seen it happen before therefore...". Now you're setting yourself up as Judge Mohan and besmirching Kielt without reason. Your kettle's as black as the County Board's pot!

"No smoke without fire" is dreadful and bankrupt argument.

Proper order. Someone should be held to account for the breaking of a man's jaw on the field of play. If not the person who struck, then the club who won't give him up.

Whoever struck Kielt should do the proper "manly" thing and own up instead of hiding behind his club and bringing it into disrepute.

["There are maybe seven or eight guys on the Tyrone squad at the minute who have no work and are seeking employment." he said."They really are on the breadline and to those sort of guys a couple of thousand euro towards the end of the year means an awful lot and maybe allows them to have a better Christmas."]

©Independent.ie

Cavanagh warns of strike action if grants get the boot


By Donnchadh Boyle

Wednesday June 24 2009

Tyrone star Sean Cavanagh has refused to rule out strike action should the players' grants be withdrawn.

Cavanagh – who also acts as secretary for the Gaelic Players' Association (GPA) – has warned that there may be serious consequences if the funding gets axed. The GPA was given a mandate by its members for strike action in late 2007 before was the funding of €3.5m was granted for the '08 season.

"The general opinion is that players would be pretty angry if GAA players were the only ones singled out," he said. "I would imagine if the GAA grants are completely thrown out, there would be some course of action maybe down the line. On what that might be I'm not too sure.

Angry

"But any players I've been speaking to, and any feedback I've been having from the GPA, is that something would be considered because they have been speaking with players from all different counties and they would be extremely angry if they (the grants) were thrown out the window."

Last season's footballer of the year believes the public would back any move the GPA might make in a bid to keep the funding given the number of inter-county players who are currently out of work. A meeting between Sports Minster, Martin Cullen, and the GPA has been pencilled in for next Monday.

"There are maybe seven or eight guys on the Tyrone squad at the minute who have no work and are seeking employment." he said.

"They really are on the breadline and to those sort of guys a couple of thousand euro towards the end of the year means an awful lot and maybe allows them to have a better Christmas."

There's "pay-for-play" right there in black and white. 

Cavanagh also called on the GAA to rescind the red card shown to Derry's Kevin McGuckin after the pair got involved in some handbags in last weekend's Ulster semi-final.

Sweet jesus. He is Niall Quinn... 

Bollix, whilst it wasnt a sending off I was beside the incident in real time and Mc Guckin hit him in the shoulder as the lad wheeled away having hit a fine point.  Yella action in nature and in card.

I saw it differently. Cavanagh doesn't see McGuckin until late and thinks he has moved to check him. Cavanagh turns to meet him and shoulders him in the chest. McGuckin doesn't see Cavanagh coming at all as he is looking upfield. The first he knows about it is Cavanagh thundering into him. McGuckin reacts and charges Cavanagh with the shoulder and is himself bundled over by McGuigan.

Neither McGuckin or Cavanagh are renowned for being dirty or "macho" players. McGuckian will successfully appeal the red card, I would imagine.

Niall McKeever has signed a 2 year AFL Rookie contract with the Brisbane Lions.

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25672317-5016169,00.html

Will he still be allowed to lineout for Antrim in the final in September?

Dooher was dreadful ...in the warm up. He fumbled at least 3 that I saw. Derry were much slicker and were easily the best team up until the ball was thrown in. 

Dreadful day for Derry football.

Diver did a mountain of good work, second only to O'Kane. He has limitations, but Brolly had no need to belittle him with his greyhound comment. It was a cheapshot - a bit of smug cleverness at Diver's expense. Why does he feel the need to do that? And does anybody else find his contrived spats with Spillane tiresome and cringeworthy? Spillane has occasional good points to make but overall is out of his depth and - unlike in his playing days - he flaps when he's put under pressure. Embarrassing stuff.

Now McHugh in his analysis is like that greyhound pup let out in the park. He loses the run of himself and his sh*te per second rate must be higher than all the other pundits put together. Did he just have a lucky year with Cavan? Some of his ideas on management, discipline and gameplans are totally off the wall...

Tyrone were cuter (and I definitely don't mean in looks), faster, stronger and fitter than Derry. Barry McGoldrick was on his knees (literally leaning on them) in the last 10 minutes. As were others. Fitness is a management issue. And why no 5th sub?

Gillis had no spare football the whole of the second half? WTF was that about? McGuckin had to go to the corner flag to retrieve a wide ball at one stage and the camera cut to the sideline where Cassidy and Madden were just staring into the distance oblivious. Wouldn't happen at a club minor match.

Floating the balls into the square at the end sort of summed Derry's day up - a bit desperate and lets-make-it-up-as-we-go-along. Is there nobody else on the Derry team who could float 45s into the square if that was the only option? Surely Skinner should have been on the end (or thereabouts) of those deliveries if Hail Mary goals is what was wanted?

O'Neill, Cavanagh, and Mulligan only scored two (fisted) points between them, Tyrone didn't score any goals and Derry were still beaten by 8 points.

Dreadful day for Derry football.