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#316
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 17, 2019, 11:13:31 AM
Dublin will stroll it if it was played on the moon.

At least the Rossies get the experience of getting hammered in Croker as opposed to some midlands dump.

I would imagine trying to play Gaelic Football on the moon would be an incredibly difficult undertaking.
#317
Quote from: Jayop on July 11, 2019, 08:42:12 PM
I don't often shout for Meath but I'll be hopping around of you can turn this lot over. Just hope someone warns the Meath lads not to touch a Donegal man anywhere over their belly button or they'll be rolling around like Neymar clutching their face looking for cards.


Donegal, generally sound support. Despise this team and manager more than anything Jim McGuinness ever put out.

I suppose as long as there are no fingers being stuck into orifices or players being spat on Donegal will be happy enough.
#318
Quote from: westbound on July 12, 2019, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 12, 2019, 10:05:39 AM
Quote from: westbound on July 12, 2019, 09:26:17 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on July 12, 2019, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: sligoman2 on July 11, 2019, 11:22:04 PM
I can't wait to watch this one.  15 Tyrone players back defending, riveting stuff.

This Tyrone team is statistically the highest scoring team in the history of the Championship. Anyone who thinks they are a defensive team doesn't know if it's pumped or stuffed.

What does the stat mean?
Have you evidence to back it up?

Look at the stats for the highest points scored by a team in a championship season. Look where Tyrone 2017 and Tyrone 2018 are.

So are you saying that Tyrone in 2017 or 2018 have scored more than any team in any year?

Can you provide a link to the stats because I have better things to be doing. But if you are  making such a claim you must have the evidence?

I had a look at 2017 and Dublin's total scored and scoring average are both much higher than Tyrone's. In 2018 Tyrone played two games more than anyone else but their scoring average was still far below Dublin's.

It might be the highest number of points scored without winning anything? I know they're the first team to have lost three times in the Championship.
#319
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 09, 2019, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 09, 2019, 12:53:12 PM
I wonder how Mickey Harte feels after getting publicly bitch slapped by Arlene Foster.

Surely a Monaghan fan knows what a bitch slapping feels like. Tyrone have been doing it to them consistently in the latter stages of the championship in recent years.

To be fair I think Tyrone have been lucky in drawing Monaghan time and time again in the QFs and last year's SF. I don't think they would have progressed any further had they played Dublin, Mayo, Kerry, or Galway in any of those games.
#320
GAA Discussion / Re: Super 8s
July 09, 2019, 01:05:54 PM
Quote from: Rudi on July 08, 2019, 06:15:21 PM
Quote from: Cunny Funt on July 08, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on July 08, 2019, 03:31:17 PM
So only 5 teams made it back to the "Super 8" from last year - Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone, Donegal and Roscommon. Is there maybe only really a super 5? Or super 4 + Roscommon?

This was tweeted yesterday. The only counties who has reached the last 8 for the last 3 years in a row are Dublin,Tyrone,Kerry and Roscommon.

The Rossies in fairness have been in tough groups. Tyrone and Dublin are the 2 best sides in the country, plus Mayo were the second best side in 2017.

It's a bit insulting to Dublin to put them on the same level as Tyrone.
#322
Quote from: Over the Bar on June 30, 2019, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 30, 2019, 12:44:05 PM
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.

Did Kildare start the game with 14 men then? Any wonder they lost!  ;D

No but they played the last half hour with 14, and Tyrone only really pulled away with less than 10 minutes normal time remaining.

I'm not expecting Tyrone to be perfect like someone above suggested but when they're talked up so regularly by media and supporters alike they have to be held to some kind of standard.
#323
Must be worrying for Tyrone that even when they revert to a defensive system that better suits them, they still concede 1-15 to a 14-man Kildare.
#324
Quote from: weejim on June 25, 2019, 12:49:58 PM
their sledging is systematic and pre-planned, its only done off the ball when the cameras have moved on with the play.
that's why, for both yellows, the tv commentators were trying to second guess what they were for.
ps, you don't really see much of the  off the ball stuff on tv, but you see it if youre there at the match.

You're hardly a Tyrone supporter are you Jim?
#325
Quote from: Angelo on June 16, 2019, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 16, 2019, 01:01:55 PM
Quote from: Angelo on June 15, 2019, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 15, 2019, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: Angelo on June 15, 2019, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 15, 2019, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2019, 02:07:54 AM
Quote from: weejim on June 15, 2019, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 14, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Anybody any clue what McCann was at??

Putting 2 fingers inside another players mouth is a very specific and targeted action. It hard to imagine that it was just made up on the spot. Was he trying to get the gum shield out and engineer a bite mark on his finger?

Irrespective of what punishment the rule book permits the incident is troubling and reflects very badly on the lad

maybe he was provoked?....  there was a a lot of sledging/goading/thrash talking goin on in Donegal fullback line   esp first half
If he's provoked that badly then hit the man a box in the jaw or else f**k up and play the game. No excuse for that cowardly act when a mans lying on the ground.

Good thing there aren't any Tyrone fans trying to excuse or justify what he did I suppose.

Sticking his fingers in his mouth is cowardly but boxing him in the jaw is excusable?

That's a very suspect moral ground. Punching someone in the jaw is as trampish as it gets.

I never said either was excusable, perhaps you replied to the wrong person?

By the way I suspect the majority of GAA supporters would consider the act of gouging another player as they lie on the ground a more "trampish" act than openly punching an opponent in the jaw. You seem fairly blinkered though.

I did quote the wrong post. The reply before that was the one I was referring to.

I would rather have an opponent stick their gloves fingers in my mouth than having a 14 stone athlete box me in the jaw. I would rather be spat on, bit or sledged than being boxed in the jaw. The consequences of those actions are unpleasant but nowhere near as dangerous and likely to have long lasting consequences than a box in the jaw.

Just because for some reason you'd be happy enough with someone gouging, biting, or spitting on you doesn't diminish what McCann did. In your first reply to me you referred to how "trampish" you considered the act of punching someone and in your very next reply you've switched to talking about the danger and long term consequences of it. What is it exactly you're trying to say?

There are plenty of acts in sports that could be considered "trampish' but not particularly dangerous, and the inherent danger of an act isn't the only parameter that determines the punishment. I'm sure you understand this already though.

Jesus Christ.

Once again, someone is completely missing the point. How many more times will people gloss over the fact that I have said multiple times on here that what McCann did was wrong and indefensible?

I'm commenting on some of the idiots on here who have expressed their outrage at it but seemingly don't seem to have the same outrage when a player is boxed in the face, if I had the choice of someone sticking the fingers in my mouth when I was on the ground or having my meals through a straw for 6 weeks with my jaw wired up then I think I'd have a pretty good idea of which act is the most dangerous and the certainly the most outrageous.

The point is fairly evident if you can read. Boxing a lad in the face is far more dangerous than gouging, diving, spitting, biting, fish hooking etc. It's far more likely to inflict damage on you and potentially lead to life changing consequences but despite that it seems to be far more excusable and acceptable in the GAA world than the aforementioned acts.

We've had a number of posters on here condemning the cowardly nature of what McCann did (I have no qualms wit that) while on the other hand excusing and championing lads boxing each other in the face as some sort of manly and courageous act.

In terms of a hierarchy of offences, punching an opponent in the face is about as malevolent and dangerous as it gets on a sporting pitch yet a large number of posters and pundits seem to excuse that action.

Once again these things that you are attributing to other posters, I did not say. They are not of any relevance to me. Why don't you actually respond to what I have said to you?
#326
Quote from: Angelo on June 15, 2019, 01:41:33 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 15, 2019, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: Angelo on June 15, 2019, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 15, 2019, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2019, 02:07:54 AM
Quote from: weejim on June 15, 2019, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 14, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Anybody any clue what McCann was at??

Putting 2 fingers inside another players mouth is a very specific and targeted action. It hard to imagine that it was just made up on the spot. Was he trying to get the gum shield out and engineer a bite mark on his finger?

Irrespective of what punishment the rule book permits the incident is troubling and reflects very badly on the lad

maybe he was provoked?....  there was a a lot of sledging/goading/thrash talking goin on in Donegal fullback line   esp first half
If he's provoked that badly then hit the man a box in the jaw or else f**k up and play the game. No excuse for that cowardly act when a mans lying on the ground.

Good thing there aren't any Tyrone fans trying to excuse or justify what he did I suppose.

Sticking his fingers in his mouth is cowardly but boxing him in the jaw is excusable?

That's a very suspect moral ground. Punching someone in the jaw is as trampish as it gets.

I never said either was excusable, perhaps you replied to the wrong person?

By the way I suspect the majority of GAA supporters would consider the act of gouging another player as they lie on the ground a more "trampish" act than openly punching an opponent in the jaw. You seem fairly blinkered though.

I did quote the wrong post. The reply before that was the one I was referring to.

I would rather have an opponent stick their gloves fingers in my mouth than having a 14 stone athlete box me in the jaw. I would rather be spat on, bit or sledged than being boxed in the jaw. The consequences of those actions are unpleasant but nowhere near as dangerous and likely to have long lasting consequences than a box in the jaw.

Just because for some reason you'd be happy enough with someone gouging, biting, or spitting on you doesn't diminish what McCann did. In your first reply to me you referred to how "trampish" you considered the act of punching someone and in your very next reply you've switched to talking about the danger and long term consequences of it. What is it exactly you're trying to say?

There are plenty of acts in sports that could be considered "trampish' but not particularly dangerous, and the inherent danger of an act isn't the only parameter that determines the punishment. I'm sure you understand this already though.
#327
Quote from: Angelo on June 15, 2019, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: greatpoint on June 15, 2019, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2019, 02:07:54 AM
Quote from: weejim on June 15, 2019, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 14, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Anybody any clue what McCann was at??

Putting 2 fingers inside another players mouth is a very specific and targeted action. It hard to imagine that it was just made up on the spot. Was he trying to get the gum shield out and engineer a bite mark on his finger?

Irrespective of what punishment the rule book permits the incident is troubling and reflects very badly on the lad

maybe he was provoked?....  there was a a lot of sledging/goading/thrash talking goin on in Donegal fullback line   esp first half
If he's provoked that badly then hit the man a box in the jaw or else f**k up and play the game. No excuse for that cowardly act when a mans lying on the ground.

Good thing there aren't any Tyrone fans trying to excuse or justify what he did I suppose.

Sticking his fingers in his mouth is cowardly but boxing him in the jaw is excusable?

That's a very suspect moral ground. Punching someone in the jaw is as trampish as it gets.

I never said either was excusable, perhaps you replied to the wrong person?

By the way I suspect the majority of GAA supporters would consider the act of gouging another player as they lie on the ground a more "trampish" act than openly punching an opponent in the jaw. You seem fairly blinkered though.
#328
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 15, 2019, 02:07:54 AM
Quote from: weejim on June 15, 2019, 01:25:53 AM
Quote from: smelmoth on June 14, 2019, 02:58:20 PM
Anybody any clue what McCann was at??

Putting 2 fingers inside another players mouth is a very specific and targeted action. It hard to imagine that it was just made up on the spot. Was he trying to get the gum shield out and engineer a bite mark on his finger?

Irrespective of what punishment the rule book permits the incident is troubling and reflects very badly on the lad

maybe he was provoked?....  there was a a lot of sledging/goading/thrash talking goin on in Donegal fullback line   esp first half
If he's provoked that badly then hit the man a box in the jaw or else f**k up and play the game. No excuse for that cowardly act when a mans lying on the ground.

Good thing there aren't any Tyrone fans trying to excuse or justify what he did I suppose.
#329
Quote from: under the bar on June 14, 2019, 07:18:56 PM
Two match ban more than enough.  Let's all laugh at the the ass-holes who were calling for a season long ban

What an unusual take. Hardly a Tyrone fan?
#330
Tyrone fans coming across as very gracious in defeat.