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I was involved in the Tipperary set up in 2001 and it was £600 in old money to get the Garda escort from the team hotel to Croke Park on All Ireland day.
It's a nice little earner for the force.

Good use of taxpayers money?!

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/garda-escort-brought-college-gaa-star-100km-so-he-could-play-in-two-matches-on-one-day-36618446.html

You have to pay the Gardai for one of those.

[complaining here repeatedly without a solution]

If we're going to have big powerful Dublin winning All Irelands every year due to their population and money you won't have to bother about other County teams as Inter County competition as a National sport will disappear.
You either split Dublin or you forget about County teams at All Ireland level reorganise the National representative competition into say 10 areas of about 500,000 each if you want some kind of equal competition.
Neither of those will happen so then we're left with a load of financial aid to Antrim, Louth, Kildare, Wicklow, Derry, Cork, Donegal Kerry and Mayowestros  to try and keep some of them competitive with Dublin .
As for the rest of us.....may as well take up soccer.

I doubt anyone wants football to be dominated by one team but there's no point in people complaining here repeatedly without a solution or blaming the GAA if there's nothing they can do. I don't buy the doom and gloom personally as both Kerry and Mayo are showing Dublin can be matched. The GAA should help others and let Dublin fund more of their own development but if more counties met the challenge I've no fears for the future. Kildare and Meath for a start can be much better.

OK - let's talk about solutions.

I'll start with centralising all sponsorship. Your business can pick a team to sponsor, but you don't pay the county board. The money goes to Croke Park. AIG can have their logo on Dublin's shirts for a million a year. Joe's Bar ban have theirs on the Rossies' bus for 15K. All the money goes to central funds to be disbursed in somewhat fair proportions.

It's a start.

Agreed. When Dublin won their artificially acquired Leinster hurling titles a few years ago, suddenly the county teams were being described as a product.

The whole Financial Doping thing is a marketing wet dream that has been realised.

We've drifted very far from the 32-county (34) competition which was envisaged from the outset. An amateur organisation, with amateur players, with the exception of a quasi-professional outfit in Dublin. I'd rather have 31 good counties rather than the fubar set-up we have now.

The legacy of Duffy & O'Fearghail+predecessors will be one which created a monster, but refused to admit their mistake.

We should have a socialist outlook and if all counties don't have a chance in winning a provincial title, the GAA is doing something wrong.

Not only should this mistake be corrected, it should be done now. No soft landing. Turn off the Dublin money tap and let the funding across the country find a suitable level. Adopt some version of the NFL model and help the weaker counties most. If the "Dublin plan" is so bloody good, then implement that in every county. Whichever county doesn't do it right, force them to put people in who will, or lose the funding.

why arent Dublin domininating hurling if the issue is as simple as you outline

It's much harder to buy hurling All Ireland than a football one.
There is a lot more natural talent needed in hurling. Dublin have done all they can with their manufactured hurlers.

There's just way less interest in hurling. That's all.

No, it's just too hard to play for most counties who have to settle for throwball instead.

Hurling has an awful inferiority complex. Football just gets on with its business of being the national game.

There is nothing inferior about it. Most counties can't play the game in any meaningful way.
Should chess feel inferior to draughts for the same reason?

[complaining here repeatedly without a solution]

If we're going to have big powerful Dublin winning All Irelands every year due to their population and money you won't have to bother about other County teams as Inter County competition as a National sport will disappear.
You either split Dublin or you forget about County teams at All Ireland level reorganise the National representative competition into say 10 areas of about 500,000 each if you want some kind of equal competition.
Neither of those will happen so then we're left with a load of financial aid to Antrim, Louth, Kildare, Wicklow, Derry, Cork, Donegal Kerry and Mayowestros  to try and keep some of them competitive with Dublin .
As for the rest of us.....may as well take up soccer.

I doubt anyone wants football to be dominated by one team but there's no point in people complaining here repeatedly without a solution or blaming the GAA if there's nothing they can do. I don't buy the doom and gloom personally as both Kerry and Mayo are showing Dublin can be matched. The GAA should help others and let Dublin fund more of their own development but if more counties met the challenge I've no fears for the future. Kildare and Meath for a start can be much better.

OK - let's talk about solutions.

I'll start with centralising all sponsorship. Your business can pick a team to sponsor, but you don't pay the county board. The money goes to Croke Park. AIG can have their logo on Dublin's shirts for a million a year. Joe's Bar ban have theirs on the Rossies' bus for 15K. All the money goes to central funds to be disbursed in somewhat fair proportions.

It's a start.

Agreed. When Dublin won their artificially acquired Leinster hurling titles a few years ago, suddenly the county teams were being described as a product.

The whole Financial Doping thing is a marketing wet dream that has been realised.

We've drifted very far from the 32-county (34) competition which was envisaged from the outset. An amateur organisation, with amateur players, with the exception of a quasi-professional outfit in Dublin. I'd rather have 31 good counties rather than the fubar set-up we have now.

The legacy of Duffy & O'Fearghail+predecessors will be one which created a monster, but refused to admit their mistake.

We should have a socialist outlook and if all counties don't have a chance in winning a provincial title, the GAA is doing something wrong.

Not only should this mistake be corrected, it should be done now. No soft landing. Turn off the Dublin money tap and let the funding across the country find a suitable level. Adopt some version of the NFL model and help the weaker counties most. If the "Dublin plan" is so bloody good, then implement that in every county. Whichever county doesn't do it right, force them to put people in who will, or lose the funding.

why arent Dublin domininating hurling if the issue is as simple as you outline

It's much harder to buy hurling All Ireland than a football one.
There is a lot more natural talent needed in hurling. Dublin have done all they can with their manufactured hurlers.

There's just way less interest in hurling. That's all.

No, it's just too hard to play for most counties who have to settle for throwball instead.

Waterford lads looked a bit unfit, probably a longer lay off than normal, they wont become a bad team over night! expect them in the business end of things again come championship...

Noel Connors had an arse on him ready to burst out his shorts!
Derek McGrath will become another Waterford manager ousted by the players if their slump continues.

[complaining here repeatedly without a solution]

If we're going to have big powerful Dublin winning All Irelands every year due to their population and money you won't have to bother about other County teams as Inter County competition as a National sport will disappear.
You either split Dublin or you forget about County teams at All Ireland level reorganise the National representative competition into say 10 areas of about 500,000 each if you want some kind of equal competition.
Neither of those will happen so then we're left with a load of financial aid to Antrim, Louth, Kildare, Wicklow, Derry, Cork, Donegal Kerry and Mayowestros  to try and keep some of them competitive with Dublin .
As for the rest of us.....may as well take up soccer.

I doubt anyone wants football to be dominated by one team but there's no point in people complaining here repeatedly without a solution or blaming the GAA if there's nothing they can do. I don't buy the doom and gloom personally as both Kerry and Mayo are showing Dublin can be matched. The GAA should help others and let Dublin fund more of their own development but if more counties met the challenge I've no fears for the future. Kildare and Meath for a start can be much better.

OK - let's talk about solutions.

I'll start with centralising all sponsorship. Your business can pick a team to sponsor, but you don't pay the county board. The money goes to Croke Park. AIG can have their logo on Dublin's shirts for a million a year. Joe's Bar ban have theirs on the Rossies' bus for 15K. All the money goes to central funds to be disbursed in somewhat fair proportions.

It's a start.

Agreed. When Dublin won their artificially acquired Leinster hurling titles a few years ago, suddenly the county teams were being described as a product.

The whole Financial Doping thing is a marketing wet dream that has been realised.

We've drifted very far from the 32-county (34) competition which was envisaged from the outset. An amateur organisation, with amateur players, with the exception of a quasi-professional outfit in Dublin. I'd rather have 31 good counties rather than the fubar set-up we have now.

The legacy of Duffy & O'Fearghail+predecessors will be one which created a monster, but refused to admit their mistake.

We should have a socialist outlook and if all counties don't have a chance in winning a provincial title, the GAA is doing something wrong.

Not only should this mistake be corrected, it should be done now. No soft landing. Turn off the Dublin money tap and let the funding across the country find a suitable level. Adopt some version of the NFL model and help the weaker counties most. If the "Dublin plan" is so bloody good, then implement that in every county. Whichever county doesn't do it right, force them to put people in who will, or lose the funding.

why arent Dublin domininating hurling if the issue is as simple as you outline

It's much harder to buy hurling All Ireland than a football one.
There is a lot more natural talent needed in hurling. Dublin have done all they can with their manufactured hurlers.

Why was Davy going mental at the start of the clip?

Neither of those refs did Tipp any favours!

All Kilkenny clubs have been asked to observe a minute's silence before their next game to commemorate the retirement of Brian Gavin.

Look at all the perks the likes of the Dublin and Mayo teams have. How many pies has Joe Canning his fingers in. Free cars etc.

At least Joe managed to lay off the pies in recent years.

I thought he retired in 2010 when Shane McGrath schooled him?

Gay Byrne has always been a Southern Unionist.

Was it ever in doubt that Dublin are gym monkeys and not hurlers?
No serious hurling county would put a footballer in charge of hurlers.

Galway v Tipp should be a cracking match.
Amazing to think Tipp have only beaten Cody once.

Yes but actually do it when it matters, something Galway will have to do should they beat Tipp

Yip,
  When Cody makes one of his biggest mistakes in starting Shefflin when it was obvious he wasn't fit and the psychological boost that came with it for Tipp, but still had to be good enough to get over the line in all fairness. Kilkenny has a poor day both sides of the white line.
Don't forget the shambolic Tipp display two years later with Kilkenny giving them an 18 point walloping and that was after Tipp led at half time.
Kilkenny hammering teams in the second half isn't just confined to Galway.

To be fair to Tipp they brought Kk to the brink in 2009 and the goal the changed the game came from a dodgy free . 

Nothing dodgy about the free as there was a foul. The problem was the loony referee deciding it was a penalty, even though the incident took place nowhere near the large square...

There was too much hype about Waterford for beating a terrible Cork.
Who is the person who thought it was a good idea to give John Mullane a newspaper and radio gig to tell us all how great Waterford are?

Tipp beat Cork.

Clare I meant. Waterford were getting serious credit for beating a team that have won 1 Munster Championship game in 8 years.