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Declan Bateson played for the Convent. And Derry. There may have been somebody else before him but I doubt it saying boys were only admitted from 1978, the the class set up was a 2.1 basis meaning u only 50 boy intake per year for a long time.

Still going with Seamus Shivers.

3 December 1989

NFL Derry 3-5 Cork 4-12

Derry team: D McCusker; K McKeever, T Scullion, P O'Donnell; J McGurk (0-1), B McPeake (RIP), G McPeake; E Heaney, D Barton (0-1); S Shivers (1-1), PJ McCormack, M Berryman; R Scullion (2-2), L Devlin, J O'Neill. Subs: P Gribbin, E Gribbin.

Though I think maybe Barry Young from Glen also got an NFL game or two.

I wonder who was the first county footballer to come out of my old school St Mary's Magherafelt? My first thought is Johnny McBride. There were no past pupils in the 1993 Derry team as far as I Know although St Pius Magherafelt had 2 past pupils. McCloskey was the first St Mary's past pupil to win an All Star.

I reckon maybe Seamus Shivers.

Ref Warnock
Irish names were translated on an inconsistent basis. Sometimes if they sounded like an English name they were allocated that name. Eg Ó Cuaig sounds a bit like Cooke so it became Cooke.

Ulster was planted after 1607 and there are many non Gael names. Most names up there are correlated with religion but some are not. John Hume was a nationalist. So is Gerry Adams. Lenny Murphy and Ken Maginnis were Unionists. You can't generalise .

O Cuaig anglicised as Quigg around south Derry.

Afaik Warnock has turned down 3 different  Derry managers regarding a call up to county football

Unusual name, is it common up there?

Probably a former planter name from back in the day if I was to hazard a guess.

Most teams have one or two.

Alot more unusual names than that across the country

Mac Giolla Mhearnóg. Probably has planter origins, if you're allowed to say use that terms.
A few Warnock families about Maghera.

Didn't mean it in a derogatory sense. I like to see people of all origins play GAA.

Just find it an interesting topic: most teams across the country have some sort of surname of planter or British origin.

There was a Seymour togged out for Castlehaven and a Trundle for St Brigid's today that are two other examples so it's not just a north of the country thing.

I know you didn't and your use of the term was correct imo, but planter seems to be a term that can be misinterpreted. And family names and the history of them are fascinating.

There was a Winton in the Glen squad today, that was the only unusual one for the locality.

It was a hell of a game for a "farce".

Give me that football in 65% visibility over nearly any club game I watched this summer, every time.

And how many of those games involved the top sides in Ireland?

It was a farce that the game was played today in those conditions.

Afaik Warnock has turned down 3 different  Derry managers regarding a call up to county football

Unusual name, is it common up there?

Probably a former planter name from back in the day if I was to hazard a guess.

Most teams have one or two.

Alot more unusual names than that across the country

Mac Giolla Mhearnóg. Probably has planter origins, if you're allowed to say use that terms.
A few Warnock families about Maghera.

I've moved down beside the scoreboard, so at least I'll know that much.

I think mist and fog always looks far worse in TV and pics than live.

Looks brave and bad here.
Would hate to be watching it on tv.

Game might be at risk today. Freezing fog in Newry this morning. I'm sure there will be a pitch inspection at some stage this morning

Massive advantage for the Crokes if it's foggy; they'll be able to play as many as they want and it will be impossible to count them.

Derry SFC final 1993 - The final was late because of Derry's run to Sam.  Lavey had been nominated for Ulster but after beating Kingscourt, they surrendered their title to eventual winners Errigal Ciaran. With Derry's team holiday looming, the final needed to be played on St Stephen's Day. (from Derrynow)

Aye, the only time we ever reached the final. Played on about two inches of packed snow. Delay was more down to a Ballinderry objection to Newbridge refusing to play a match under lights. But the second bit is true, getting the Derry boys away for the team holiday was the priority.

And the St Paul's minor tournament always worth a visit on St Stephen's Day.

No foul. Great tackle

My initial reaction too. Hasn't changed despite watching it several times.

[1,265 hours a year.]

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

1,265 hours a year.

Catch yourself on.

Sure it's nearly Christmas .

Most of the primary ones will have Elf , the Grinch on repeat for the next three weeks .

Secondary ones have will a week of Christmas "mocks" where they get a handy wee day off and then they will hit the Christmas Netflix section.

Surprised if any of them made 1000 hours a year.

Yes, that was sort of my point.

Teachers in the wee six not doing so well

I hadn't seen that before, but I can say that it feels about right.
My wife is a teacher now for well over 20 years. She has management points and her take home now is roughly 2k more than when she started all those years ago. Less than £200/year increase in salary.
I can say in all honesty, she has more hours to work in a week than I do.
Was recently chatting to a young lad in a tyre depot when getting a puncture fixed, he was about 21/22 and he was telling me he's taking home over £500 a week. One of the neighbours kids has a part time job in Tesco, and her hourly rate is better than what my wife earns.
I get that there isn't money in the education budget to pay them more, but the current state of things where students and early stage "non-professional" jobs (such as a tyre fitter) earn as much as if not more than a teacher of 20+ years in a management position is fundamentally wrong. I'm not suggesting that those other workers don't deserve what they are getting paid, but teachers should certainly be getting paid more.
I know of 2 young teachers who recently resigned. One of them is just looking for work in shops etc until they find their feet. The other is doing reflexology from the house 3 nights a week and making more than she was when teaching full time.

Ye but is it not a 10 month contract? Her hourly rate over them weeks is higher?

UK workers are guaranteed a minimum of 28 days paid leave per year. This can include bank holidays, but many employers add them on top, so employees in England get a minimum of 36 days, or 7 weeks and 1 day (more in Wales, Scotland, and NI).

Typically schools will have the following breaks:

Autumn half-term - 5 days
Christmas - 11 days (inc. three bank holidays)
May Day (bank holiday)
Spring half-term - 5 days
Easter - 10 or 11 days (inc. two bank holidays)
Summer half-term - 5 days (inc. one bank holiday)
Summer - 30 days (inc. one bank holiday)

So that makes 67 or 68 days, of which eight are bank holidays, and 28 are the same entitlement most other employees get. That leaves 30 or 31 days that are "extra." Some of those may be inset days where kids are at home, and schools closed, but teachers are still there working. The first two days of the next Summer break are inset days. This whittles the "extra" down to 28 or 29 days.

1,265 hours a year.

Are there any companies that specialise in adding youngsters to car insurance? Asking in hope more than expectation, realise there's a robbing heading my way.

AXA supposed to be very good for young drivers, according to the local driving instructor.

I've two youngsters, 17 and 18 on mine; cost less for two than one.

David Clifford the footballer of the year.

First to do back to back
Wouldn't rule out 3 in a row, he's that good.

Did they say jacko did 4 in a row? Stiff competition back then

I think someone said that the award was first introduced in 1995; apparently Rogers would have been Derry's first winner.