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Or Aldo laughing at Brian Laws after he'd scored an og in the FA Cup semi final!

That was Steve Chettle in the re-arranged semi-final after the Hillsborough disaster - Aldo displaying what a classy guy he really is

[I will keep the faith when I see evidence]

I will keep the faith when I see evidence that its worth keeping, but I refuse to get carried away with a home win against a club in disarray. Difference between Strachan and Mowbray is three titles, one Scottish Cup and one CIS Cup, and Champions League end stage qualification. I also notice that he seems to be finding his feet with Middlesbro as well, they're only a couple of points off a promotion qualifier place.

[too much to ask for a card and a teddy like?]

i'd be happy enoug

it's flippin depressin how much my boyfriend hates valentines day. too much to ask for a card and a teddy like?

Yes.

load of shite. it's not that much effort, it's one day in a year.

it is not, there's birthdays and anniversaries and christmas and all sorts of present shopping torture.

why do you need a card and a teddy?

birthday was ruined, anviversary was ruined, christmas was decent, last years valentines day was a sham. it's just nice to make a bit of effort, i'm puttin in the effort of makin him dinner and all, what'll i get after, groped and fell asleep on.

You seem like a torture, looking a load of shite for valentines day and complaining about an "anniversary" being ruined - what were you expecting? You're not married = no anniversary

[my god some of you's are full of your own importance......]

my god some of you's are full of your own importance......

the word "disappointment" has been used a lot throughout this thread.... and for those who say it doesn't equate with love....

disappointment in another person especially a relation can have serious consequences, it is also a feeling not easily hid..

Disappointment is a subjective response related to the anticipated rewards. The psychological results of disappointment vary greatly among individuals; while some recover quickly, others mire in frustration or blame or become depressed. A 2003 study of young children with parental background of childhood onset depression found that there may be a genetic predisposition to slow recovery following disappointment. While not every person responds to disappointment by becoming depressed, depression can (in the self psychology school of psychoanalytic theory) almost always be seen as secondary to disappointment/frustration.


so whilst you say you would love your child nonetheless, you are actually causing the child more harm and in the case of the child i am sure they would relate "disappointment" to love....

what right do you have to be disappointed in their choices of partner through race or sexuality....?

If my son was gay I'd be raging with the wife. There's no queers in my family.

Would you be wondering if he was yours or not!

All those statements are true, those are just things I would prefer him not to be. Am I a bigot? If I left out the first one am I a bigot?

I'd only be disappointed if he was a waster. I'd be disappointed if he was stupid, because he was a waster. Other than that, I wouldn't be disappointed.

That's fair enough if that's your honest opinion. I'm just being honest in pointing out things that would make me feel disappointed, but ( as gallsman said) it wouldn't make me love him any less. But too many people would prefer if we all just said the right thing and were never really honest just to make sure no one gets the opportunity to be offended.

Would be very disappointed if my son grew up to be a queer.
Would be very disappointed if my daughter grew up to be a lesbian.
Would be very disappointed if my daughter married a black guy.
Wouldn't bother me that much if my son married a black girl, as long as she wasn't too black.

Master bigot more like....

Would be very disappointed if my son grew up to be gay
Would be very disappointed if my son grew up to be a waster
Would be very disappointed if my son grew up to be stupid
Would be very disappointed if my son grew up to be crap at football


All those statements are true, those are just things I would prefer him not to be. Am I a bigot? If I left out the first one am I a bigot? 

If my daughter came home with a coloured man I would be disappointed. If my son came home with another man I would be disappointed.

Does this mean I am racist and homophobic?

Depends on your reasons for being "disappointed".
Why exactly would you be disappointed?

And if his son/daughter had any sense she'd tell him he was an ignorant f**ker and have nothing to do with him again - but heh thats just my opinion.

Wise up. If he told his son to f*** off because he was gay then you have a point. But if he's just disappointed but lives with it then he is more tolerant than most of the PC brigade.

Not liking something but learning to deal with it is tolerance. But these days you have to like everyone or you're intolerant or an "ignorant f**ker"

If my daughter came home with a coloured man I would be disappointed. If my son came home with another man I would be disappointed.

Does this mean I am racist and homophobic?

Would agree with you, certainly on the gay point (race or colour won't bother me at all). Think things have gone too far, it's okay gays asking for equal rights and being treated with repect but its got to the point where if you don't declare that you are totally comfortable with homosexuality you are seen as a bigot!

If my daughter came home with a coloured man I would be disappointed. If my son came home with another man I would be disappointed.

Does this mean I am racist and homophobic?

If you had to choose, would you prefer your son to come home with a white man or a black woman?

[like as if they have made a choice in life about hairstyle or religion]

If my daughter came home with a coloured man I would be disappointed. If my son came home with another man I would be disappointed.

Really disappointed with this remark and although its not something I feel cocky about, I think you should reassess who you are.

Think Hardy was right - you have to be taking the piss

Just spotted this, have to agree - has to be taking the piss. Found this strange from someone challenging people to change their views on gay people...

I am glad that a lot of people agree with me, and I hope that some day soon gay people will be looked at as just normal people, like as if they have made a choice in life about hairstyle or religion. Perhaps this generation will be the ones who change perceptions and feed that to their children too.

Give this opinion on 'choosing' to be gay to the 4 homosexual men in your office and see what they say 

If my daughter came home with a coloured man I would be disappointed. If my son came home with another man I would be disappointed.

Really disappointed with this remark and although its not something I feel cocky about, I think you should reassess who you are.

What a load of balls!  What is wrong with being disappointed if a family member is gay? Am sure most people wouldn't treat that person any differently but if it's how you feel there is nothing you can do about it? That's the problem with political correctness we are not only told how we should behave but how we should feel.

so basically maggie.... are we to settle for second best and not hold out for mr right cause we'll end up alone...

maybe be less fussy...

right should bear this in mind at the weekend....

wonder about "the ones who got away"......

You must have too high a level of expectation.  Be a bit more realistic, like Trigger and his dream girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T04jaKaBr8&feature=related (2mins in)

She only has herself to blame. As the saying goes: "she acted the pig till the butcher came" 

never nice to see anyone's marriage in trouble. But on a plus side, I didn't think I'd get anymore wear out of this