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a straight left to the jaw...the story continues

derry will be fucked at midfield. murphy is too f**king slow. he doent have the engine. the other options are pish

the great captain black who comes on here every now and again to tell us how bold we are to knocking the efforts of players, refs, club chairmen and God knows even abusive priests....now he evntually shows his spots

FAO: Main Street

lol

[Apparently a hairline fracture according to the Derry thread so not ruled out completely]

Well if they werent great footballers then they deserved the chop of course.  As for Kielt the same guy told me he might play some role this weekend?

Apparently a hairline fracture according to the Derry thread so not ruled out completely.

that means that you have had a hairline fracture yourself and was able to play on or that you have never had one and haven't a clue what your talking about

[At the end of day its about revenue]

It's about Leinster football and the Leinster Council, the All-Ireland is in effect a separate entity.

If you're good enough is just a cliche and a ridiculous assertion, sport at any level can be about margins, why do you think home advantage in any sport is so important?

To re-iterate I actually would believe Kildare have a better chance playing a semi in Navan/Carlow but I'm sure the players, management from K,LS or LH would like a game in Croker before they took on the might of the Dubs, the Leinster Council have an opportunity to the level the playing field, an opportunity that does not exist in the All-Ireland series but no they would sooner not promote their games and take the money instead.

Dublin have a better record in provincial grounds than Croke Park Dinny. If you're going to beat Dublin it'll be in Croke park. We've only lost 1 game at provincial grounds in the last 30 years. At the end of day its about revenue in a recession and we need to maximise it. Why lose out on 2m that the association can ill afford to lose out on at the moment. I see your point but I don't think the Gaa in the current economic climate as any choice.

exactly....explaing why they are planning to take 20,000 of derry and monaghan. It is always about the money in an ameteur game. We can afford to take 20, 000 off a few counties but we can't afford to pay players. ...some joke the whole thing? Not worth debating.

The Derry Tyrone game...usually is a very close dour game when we play. We are sort a serious amount of good players, Doherty, Muldoon, Mc Cusker, Patsy Bradley...al big, physically strong men. We'll not be to far away...perhaps a decesion here or there byn the ref

Something wrong with the system whereby Limerick are guaranteed a spot in the last 12 by beating a Division Four team while Derry have to beat two Division One teams to reach that same stage.
Much as it pains me, I'm starting to think we should scrap the provincial system, OR go back to a straight knock-out.

i agree the provincial c'ship very unfair. I am in favour of adpoting a league basis that has then translates in the championship quater finals for Sam and quater finals for a second tier Sam

[Derry]

We missed you max. Amazing we won with such useless players and no underage etc etc etc. I suppose you had €100 euro on cavan to win by a point too.

The GAAboard tourist is back I see. Remember when I posted after Tipperary beat us months ago that 'freak' results can occur in the league because of varying fitness levels and 'smaller' counties training harder for it than others, and Max's incisive analysis was:

...cant see the wood for the trees....thats as funny as I have seen in a while...not near wise. That warped sense of non reality explains it all  

What's your dazzling insight on Tipp now, Max, since their defeat in championship to a Limerick team that had a comparable league record to Cavan's in the same division? Hmmm?

And also on Cavan, given that we beat last year's Ulster finalists/team who've been in All-Ireland series many times in recent years, and who count exceptionally well-run, utopian underage powerhouse counties such as Derry among their scalps of last year? Not to mention the big scalps of other years? And Cavan beat them without a minor or U21 success to speak of?

I can't wait for your laser sharp justifications drenched in hindsight and half truths....  

well fermanagh haven't won a thing at all at any level also......so like for like. As i said congrats on your win...a well deserved win....but you were at home against a team who is now a divisin 3 team like yourselves and here is the rub....one swallow doesn't make a summer.

An observation on my part....Cavan had a bit of spirit about them on Sat, more spirit than I have seen in a while. Mc Cabe has now departed...any relationship between the two?

Congrats on the won...and a deserved win it was. You were the better team, and for a bit more self belief you could have won easier.

Its not amazing you won a home tie against another county with no underage success. I didn't bet on this game because of your home draw. My money at the weekend went on a ballinderry bellaghy double.

According to todays Irish news Dooher is a doubt for this game, aggravated the groin injury playing for the clann's, came off as a precaution, hopefully it's not too serious!

The mention of Dooher and Derry always brings me back to the 2001 clash in the Ulster semis. Tyrone won that by scoring 2 goals in a couple of minutes in the second half (Cavlan, O'Neill and Dooher scored all three Tyrone goals that day).

Eamon Coleman made one hell of a run across the field to remonstrate with the ref. Tohill elbowed Holmes in the face. Derry got their revenge in the AIQF.

great photograph on the front page of the Irish news of the wee man at full stretch on the end of a Tyrone jersey

BH man...you tom fool.....where is your Tommy Carr must go thread now TOM FOOL[/font][/color][/b]

[Rather he says it's up to referees to be more decisive and to lay down the law in the early stages of games.]

Didn't know where to post this article but thought it was relevant after all yer chat this week.

FOOTBALLER of the Year Sean Cavanagh believes referees must act faster and earlier if they're to rid the championship of cynical fouling.

The Tyrone full-forward accepts his side's Ulster SFC clash with Armagh on Sunday will be the subject of close scrutiny. That's a result of last weekend's stormy Ulster tie between Derry and Monaghan which saw one player red carded and 11 yellows dished out.

Cavanagh refused to criticise the players whom, he claims, will always try to get away with as much as possible. Rather he says it's up to referees to be more decisive and to lay down the law in the early stages of games.
"Maybe if referees took a bit more authority and forget about old rules and new rules and concentrate on implementing the rules we might be able to play good, free flowing football," said Cavanagh.
"You don't mind taking the hits as long as they are within the rules.

"But when players are getting away with pulling and dragging away from the ball and scuffles at every opportunity then referees, linesmen and umpires have to deal with it accordingly.
"I don't think it's a point of new rules versus old rules; it's a point of playing within the rules and having them properly enforced."

This story appeared in the printed version of the Irish Examiner Thursday, May 28, 2009

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cavanagh-calls-on-referees-to-be-stricter-92849.html#ixzz0GnB6GIWn&B

If ever a player got it right this is it. Refs, linesmen and unpires all neglected their resposibility on Sunday, it is up to them to report players breaking rules. i saw the two Bradleys on Sunday getting abused before the ref even threw the ball in, what did the umprires do, nothing just let it go on.  If a player is getting away with abuse on the pitch and the ref doesn't do his job to ensure he can play football then i say give them all you've got until the ref starts protecting you. I have been sayig this for a while now that our officials are all opting out of the big calls. Using arguments that they don't want to send them off is as weak an argument as the weak ref. Why is at these massive games it is the refs mates who are umpires......that sums it up really. The refs mates is left to take the moral high ground and save our games. the hierarchy need to wise up.

Cassidy brands TV pundits 'hypocrites'
27 May 2009


Derry manager Damian Cassidy has accused RTE's Sunday Game panel of hypocrisy as the fallout continues from last Sunday's controversial Ulster SFC clash in Celtic Park.

TV pundits Joe Brolly, Colm O'Rourke and Pat Spillane were scathing in their criticism of the rough house tactics employed by both Derry and Monaghan, but Cassidy has turned on them by claiming they were no angels themselves during their own playing days.

"I can't help but feel there is a rampant level of hypocrisy about this," he said.

"You are talking about pundits who when they played could have been cited very handily themselves.

"Now they are sitting on television with halos over their heads."

Cassidy was especially riled by Spillane's comments that he felt sorry for spectators who paid to watch the game.

"I haven't spoken to a Derry supporter yet who was disappointed with what they saw," he remarked.

"There are people with their own agendas here. Being controversial is one way of maintaining your profile."

And he hasn't even played in an Ulster final yet.

wrong 2000 Ulster final V Armagh.

ice hockey

Indiana do what you want to, but take the mote out of your own eye first before you come on hear and point the finger at everyone else. Thats my point.Did Mickey Ned ever get to lift that cup. No body has argued that the game wasn't ugly in the worst sense, but seem to think you are on a crusade to the save the GAA from these games.