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Ignore the facts so guys. 

Which came first withdrawal of players which led to mediocrity or acceptance of mediocrity which led to withdrawal of players, it is no coincidence that Armagh , Derry and Cavan all adopted defensive systems inspired by Jim McGuinness's Donegal , this then led to talented forwards in particular becoming redundant and frustrated and eventually coming to the realisation that an absolute dummy could perform the role they were asked to perform and eventually left panel when it became apparent the system was more important than talent .

Armagh is surprising as they had such a good trajectory last year and were playing a brand of football which empowered their forwards.

This year they lost the likes of Clarke, Oisin O'Neill, Stefan Campbell and Ciaran O'Hanlon in the forward line.

To be perfectly honest, Cavan and Derry just don't really seem to have many top class forwards but you look at Derry and they've been without a host of very talented players over the past few years which they could really have achieved something with. I look at Derry under Barton the past few years and Armagh under McGeeney the past few years, they have both had squads shorn of important players for various reasons but both sides have really taken on the baton with great pride and spirit and it makes you think that if they had all their best players fit, available and buying into what the management team are doing then why couldn't they target an Ulster title at least.

The point is there was an Ulster Championship up for grabs this year. Fermanagh would not have the same pool of ability of those 4 counties but found themselves in an Ulster final this year.

And can everyone from Ros and Connacht ignore the new pest who has arisen on the Board.
Anyone know what sort of prices they'll be charging.
€35? For seats?

Ironic that you want people to ignore facts.

I didn't know this was a messageboard for Connacht Football Propaganda.

I've only put forward rational points backed up by a body of empirical evidence.

The Connacht Football Championship is no more competitive than the Ulster Championship, there were no 21 point victories in Ulster this year.

Mayo have been flying the flag for Connacht Football solo for the last 16 years and are the only Connacht side to win Championship matches at Croke Park in that time.

If that upsets you, then I'm sorry you find reality upsetting.

its what you score against the big teams in the big games that counts. we scored 1-11 against kerry in 2015, 12 points mayo 2016 and 11 against dublin 2017.

It's the result that counts, not what you score.

well if you score 11 or 12 points against a big team in croke park there is only gonna be one result.

Kerry and Mayo were narrow defeats where we had enough chances to win the games but our forward's finishing and our frees let us down.

Only a week to go and this is a huge test of Galway imo. If they manage to put it up to Kerry in a champo game in Croker I'll start to believe they have what their teams have lacked in the last few years. I think the Super 8s will benefit Galway because they'll get a champo game in Croker that isn't do or die.

Galway have it all to prove.

Their Connacht title win can now be put in perspective. They laboured past a limited Roscommon team and a Mayo team on its last legs who were down to 14 men for most of the and missing a few key players with injury.

They have big question marks in defence, I think if you stop Comer you go a long way to stopping Galway. Shane Walsh was brilliant the last day out but he's not dependable.

In saying that they're facing a Kerry side who also have it all to prove.

its what you score against the big teams in the big games that counts. we scored 1-11 against kerry in 2015, 12 points mayo 2016 and 11 against dublin 2017.

It's the result that counts, not what you score.

Tyrone will devour Roscommon.
They didn't get out of 2nd gear yesterday to beat Cork.

6+ points win.

How many gears do Tyrone have other than neutral?

Enough gears to win a Championship game at Croke Park anyway.

Of the Provincial Champions only Galway from CONNACHT had 2 serious games.
The other 3 won turkey shoots and their combined winning margins must be well over 100 points or would it be 200?!

The only competitïve province is Connacht.
The only qualifer to come up against a real challenge was Kildare in #Newbridgeornowhere imo.
There aren't 8 super teams anyway .

Connacht was hardly competitive.

It had two competitive games.

Out of 6. Ulster had 0. Same for the other 2.

It had the same amount of them as Connacht, Tyrone-Monaghan and Monaghan-Fermanagh. The difference between them was we had a high quality contest between Tyrone and Monaghan whereas the two games Galway won were awful with scores at a minimum.


Galway won their Connacht title by an aggregate score of 28 points where they faced the other three best teams in the province. Donegal won their Ulster title by an aggregate score of 31 points without having to face the other two best teams in the province.


I think what you're trying to say flies in the face of facts.

Ah now, would you stop. The Monaghan Fermanagh game was competitive in the same way a constipated man is battling with his arse - one party has shut in shop and not a lot of movement is possible in either direction.

Pretty similar to the horrible spectacle that was the Connacht final where one side failed to score from play in the second half.

If ever there was an argument for a tiered championship this match was it. We got a great game against 2 evenly matched teams , however they are so far off the top table it is shocking . Two teams would be intermediate in a county championship scenario.No disrespect to Roscommon but they will do well not to be beat by 10 points in each super 8 game. McStay and Roscommon though has a plan and see the 3 games as a progression to Div 1 next year and then come back stronger to championship next year. Armagh however despite the best endeavours of a number of players are back to square one next year with no idea of who will play who won't , will management be retained or let go after another poor day at the office yesterday !!!!!!

I think Armagh did well this year. They have a serious amount of important players who are injured or opted out for the year gone by. If they were to get the vast bulk of these lads back I don't see any reason why they couldn't push for Div 1 promotion next year.

I think it's disappointing at the minute how Armagh, Cavan and Derry have so many important players who have not made themselves available. There was an Ulster title there this year that these three sides had a genuine chance of winning if they had their full compliment.

I presume they bet Monaghan out the gate....

To be fair to Monaghan, they have managed a couple of victories in Championship matches in Croke Park in the past 17 years. Am I correct in saying Mayo are the only side in Connacht to win a Championship match in Croke Park since Sligo beat Tyrone in 2002?

Correct

That's pretty shocking, particularly for Galway. You'd wonder where Seafoid gets his arrogance from when Galway are presiding over a record like that.

Of the Provincial Champions only Galway from CONNACHT had 2 serious games.
The other 3 won turkey shoots and their combined winning margins must be well over 100 points or would it be 200?!

The only competitïve province is Connacht.
The only qualifer to come up against a real challenge was Kildare in #Newbridgeornowhere imo.
There aren't 8 super teams anyway .

Connacht was hardly competitive.

It had two competitive games.

Out of 6. Ulster had 0. Same for the other 2.

It had the same amount of them as Connacht, Tyrone-Monaghan and Monaghan-Fermanagh. The difference between them was we had a high quality contest between Tyrone and Monaghan whereas the two games Galway won were awful with scores at a minimum.


Galway won their Connacht title by an aggregate score of 28 points where they faced the other three best teams in the province. Donegal won their Ulster title by an aggregate score of 31 points without having to face the other two best teams in the province.


I think what you're trying to say flies in the face of facts.

Objectively.... even Dessie and O'Rourke though the ref was giving softer frees to Armagh. I also believe he made two mistakes with the advantage rule. Anyway it made no difference to the match.

Edit: I don't realize who the poster is. Objectivity is not possible.

Colm O'Rourke is hardly objective, his hate for Northern teams is well known.

Of the Provincial Champions only Galway from CONNACHT had 2 serious games.
The other 3 won turkey shoots and their combined winning margins must be well over 100 points or would it be 200?!

The only competitïve province is Connacht.
The only qualifer to come up against a real challenge was Kildare in #Newbridgeornowhere imo.
There aren't 8 super teams anyway .

Connacht was hardly competitive.

It had two competitive games.

It should be an interesting Super 8s.

A shame Mayo didn't make it really. Dublin will definitely come out of the Super 8s but I think you could say 6 of the other 7 will certainly fancy their chances of progressing. I just think Roscommon are there to make up the numbers and look to be physically a long way off the other three teams.

If Monaghan win today, as expected, then you have a very interesting group. Monaghan are a seasoned Div 1 side, Galway are progressing, Kerry have a lot of exciting forwards and Kildare have momentum in their favour. None of the four sides should have reason to fear the other as there is not a great deal between him.

I think it will be between us and Donegal for the 2nd place in our group.

7 of the 8 teams played in Div 1 this year and the only team from Div 1 who didn't make it were eliminated by another Div 1 side.

You've been exposed. By rights you should be banned again for making a second account to circumvent your permanent ban. Mods?

I should be banned for dismissing Roscommon?

Aren't you a sensitive wee soul, maybe run along now and stop diluting from the football discussion with your nonsense.

Reported.

Good snitching.


Your life must be very fulfilling if your Sunday morning consists of grassing posters up on a niche messageboard because they dismiss your team's chances.

I could say something about how pathetic your life must be and potential mental health issues but clearly you say a lot more for that than I ever could.

Do everyone a favour and run along as some of us just want to discuss the football without being slurred or brought down to your level.

Confirmed. Back on the ignore list you go.

Now why didn't you do that the first time before throwing a hysterical fit?

It should be an interesting Super 8s.

A shame Mayo didn't make it really. Dublin will definitely come out of the Super 8s but I think you could say 6 of the other 7 will certainly fancy their chances of progressing. I just think Roscommon are there to make up the numbers and look to be physically a long way off the other three teams.

If Monaghan win today, as expected, then you have a very interesting group. Monaghan are a seasoned Div 1 side, Galway are progressing, Kerry have a lot of exciting forwards and Kildare have momentum in their favour. None of the four sides should have reason to fear the other as there is not a great deal between him.

I think it will be between us and Donegal for the 2nd place in our group.

7 of the 8 teams played in Div 1 this year and the only team from Div 1 who didn't make it were eliminated by another Div 1 side.

You've been exposed. By rights you should be banned again for making a second account to circumvent your permanent ban. Mods?

I should be banned for dismissing Roscommon?

Aren't you a sensitive wee soul, maybe run along now and stop diluting from the football discussion with your nonsense.

Reported.

Good snitching.


Your life must be very fulfilling if your Sunday morning consists of grassing posters up on a niche messageboard because they dismiss your team's chances.

I could say something about how pathetic your life must be and potential mental health issues but clearly you say a lot more for that than I ever could.

Do everyone a favour and run along as some of us just want to discuss the football without being slurred or brought down to your level.