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#31
GAA Discussion / Re: Under age football
August 22, 2015, 07:47:18 PM
1st January is the cut date for Under Age football
1st July is the cut date for different school years.
As a September birth month I always missed out on an extra year at Under Age that some of my classmates could get.
Think schools in the South may have 1st Jan as their date too? Reason for assuming that is after winning McRory cup quite a few years ago now we lost five players when going on to the Hogan Cup. Dunno if that is still the case.
From working with Under Age teams now it is easy to qualify who is eligible and who is not for say Under 14 and Under 16 teams - though some Clubs may still appear confused lol
#32
GAA Discussion / Re: Peil na mBan 2015
August 22, 2015, 02:15:19 PM
Tense finish - thought maybe heading for a draw when Armagh went down to 14 - Armagh no. 25 did well - Aimee Mackin has some turn of speed and helped create chances - great claim by No. 6 when Donegal were pushing for the equaliser and Geraldine McLaughlin waiting for a break that didn't come.
Over the game felt the better team won but suspect they'll find AI semi final will be a major step up.
#33
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
August 22, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
Quote from: qubdub on August 22, 2015, 10:59:33 AM
Time to wipe the slate clean. Identify issues and address them both short and long term.

Short term things like managers for senior, minor, u21 need to be  appointed asap especially with championships in full swing. McCorry treated poorly so let's hope that doesn't deter potential candidates. Forget outside managers, I'd take a down man over a mercenary any day.

Long term is where the real fun happens. GAA is dying on its knees in parts of this county and to some people they wouldn't even know or care. Forget underage county development squads as a priority and get a real injection into places like the lecale district, Dpk and Newry. Get structures in place within all the primary schools, direct whatever resources are available to these areas. For a town of newrys size to not have a proper challenging senior side is a reflection on the county as a whole. Oh and also get Glenn new facilities.

Agree with the Under Age structure point. Urban areas all over seem to have a difficulty attracting the numbers that should be available - invariably due to other options available - e.g. Rugby, Soccer, other sports. Structures in place in primary schools will need input from the Clubs those schools are seen to service. County board support for this will be wasted if local Clubs don't take a role in this too. Would be useful if this happened and these children would get encouragement and direction from the perceived home clubs to help develop them and build the numbers of that home Club.

However this shouldn't be done at the expense of Development Squads, but as well.
#34
General discussion / Re: Is Stormont going to fall?
August 21, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 21, 2015, 12:52:12 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on August 21, 2015, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 21, 2015, 11:42:25 AM
Hard to know. . . you can be fairly certain the murder came from the IRA though!! (Sorry Ex-IRA)

McGuinness has come out strongly condemning those involved in both murders so that Sinn Fein can distance themselves from it (not going down well around these parts, as someone said "You wouldn't see Gerry Kelly condemning the IRA).

Will it be enough? I think it might be. Let's be honest nobody wants things back the way they were and the politicians have too much at stake to let it slip.


Could it not be argued that MMcG is trying to lead rather than run with the pack? Is that not what we'd like to see from leaders? We complain constantly on here that unionist politicians simply ape their electorate rather than lead them with new ways of thinking.

Gerry Kelly has condemned it and said it has nothing to do with Republicanism. (Front page article in tele)

Sure isn't that what politicians do - say what is expected of them - what they may then do or say privately may be different. Look at the other lead story in the IN. Paisley called for civil disobedience iafter the Anglo Irish Agreement- including urging non payment of rates - then paid his own bill lol
#35
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
August 21, 2015, 12:41:02 PM
Quote from: southdown on August 21, 2015, 12:29:52 PM
Pete McGrath is the stand out candidate.  Most of the names mentioned here have zero inter-county experience.

The question is whether he will come back.

Would agree but would expect him to politely refuse if approached.
Current board don't appear to have been big fans of Pete and he appears to be thoroughly enjoying the stint in Fermanagh. Would be different in another year or so when the Fermanagh bandwagon stops (reach as far as they can with the resources they have).
Would need the County board to recognise the as you say "outstanding candidate" and give him the support and backing that would be needed.
#37
GAA Discussion / Re: County Manager Merry go round
August 20, 2015, 04:20:08 PM
Quote from: SamFever on August 20, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
From Gaelic Life Twitter;;;;
GAELIC Life understands that Jim McCorry is to consider his position as manager of the Down senior football team.

The county executive met with the Mourne boss this week, and McCorry had hoped that a number of his doubts would be allayed. It seems, however, that issues still remain in place.

It is believed that McCorry requested the meeting four weeks ago, and the delay in scheduling it has not helped the siutation.

He is now likely to discuss the matter with his management team and advisors. It is understood that the Down players are very keen on him to remain in charge.

Despite a disappointing championship campaign, including a qualifier defeat to Wexford, McCorry appeared to be on solid ground due to it being his first year in charge, and also, due to the fact that he guided the team into division one.

That belief, however, fell apart when the county management recommended that he be removed from his post last month on a 7-6 score after they held a vote.

In the subsequent county board meeting, the clubs and board voted 23-13 in his favour. The seven who voted against him in the management committee then cast another seven votes against him to bring it to an overall 22-20 figure, ensuring he was retained as manager.

As for now, McCorry remains in charge and he was present at a number of club championship matches in recent weeks as he tries to spot new talent. Dan Gordon and Martin Clarke are expected to return to the county scene for the 2016 season.

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Saw that - know his comments after qualifier defeat didn't endear him among the Down support, and am still unsure. Claiming promotion to Div 1 was unexpected but they'll be under pressure to stay there, even with Dan and Marty back on board.
Am sure supporters are looking at Fermanagh and thinking there's a Down manager with a good record and yet he's in Fermanagh. Dunno what the County Board have against Pete but Down's loss looks like Fermanagh's gain.
If Sean Ward continues with the good work at Burren might be an option in another year or two but he would need to carry on with good work being done at present.
Can't see Armagh not reappointing Geezer.
What's the craic in Derry - Baker not considered? Barton? Or are they def looking outside the county - think last non Derry manager was Mullins?
#38
GAA Discussion / Re: 2015 All Stars
August 19, 2015, 02:27:19 PM
Quote from: headoftheroad on August 18, 2015, 09:34:04 AM
Tiernan McCann? Oh sorry I thought you said oscars

Lol - Enda Lynn would be nominated then too 😀
#39
Armagh / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
August 18, 2015, 09:53:22 PM
Interesting to see Giligan on the line - believe he lined out for Ballinderry this evening too in Derry championship. Plenty of experience and his input along the line would be an asset.
#40
Down / Re: Down Club Hurling & Football
August 18, 2015, 09:17:46 PM
Quote from: GreenGiant on August 18, 2015, 10:15:45 AM
Quote from: terrifictommy on August 18, 2015, 08:04:09 AM
I don't know the reason behind the decision but there's no malice intended to the other teams fighting for Div1 status. In contrast everyone has an opinion now, no one bothered when Ballyholland called game off at 1730, was I not told 'It's none of your business'. So let's see where the real problems lie within this county and the short term memories.

why was the ballyholland game called off last week? In my 'opinion' it was very cowardly of Annaclone to not field last night

Bottom line is it is in bad taste and disrespectful to the league as well as to other clubs that are affected by this. Had they fielded and lost they would have kept face but this attitude and action is disappointing. Have the County Board anything set up to deal with such issues - no point in deducting points as seems they are resigned to relegation anyway.
Is there a bye law that may say impose a fine?
#41
Quote from: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 10:34:14 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 18, 2015, 09:56:01 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 09:42:20 AM
I was always under the impression that the differences in fees all stemmed from insurance being much higher for girls to play? Maybe LGFA have higher premiums?

As a smaller separate organisation I imagine they don't have the same clout for insurance premiums as the GAA as a whole. I don't understand why LGFA and Camogie are still separated from the GAA. What's the hold up? We all use the same facilities, LGFA and Camogie are all based out of the same County board offices and Croke Park surely bringing them together can't be that big of a problem!
because that makes too much sense! My experience of GAA at every level from club to national is that although they always eventually do the thing that makes most sense, they just take fcukin ages to do it!

Agreed - nothing moves fast when seems logical. LGFA register each individual player - as do camogie at individual injury insurance levels. GAA register a team without having to identify players, though all members registered separately - means boys can play football and hurling having been registered once, while girls fees are significantly higher and they need to be registered twice to allow them to play football and camogie.
Associations should amalgamate - and prioritise this. Would lead to a loss of power among the LGFA and Camogie boards, this may be a disincentive among the top brass in those associations, but potential savings and coordination of fixtures would vastly outweigh that!
#42
Been reading through these and there is a significant difference in reg fees - and this has to be one of the drivers / incentives to amalgamate the associations.

I come from a one club model and our strategy is to have all players pay the same amount - all players are encouraged / cajoled / persuaded to help in the various fund raising activity of the Club.

No difference in fees per player - everyone pays the same - one club model - therefore only one chequebook.
I can see where Ladies are separate can lead to differences in charges to players. Best solution to resolve this is for associations to amalgamate!! Understood this to be an aim of both GAA and LGFA.