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Milltown, he said "win Ulster".

oh, did we put Ogs out in the first round?

Aldergrove got a serious win today against Creggan.

will that fortunate win keep them up?

To be fair Armagh isn't exactly brimming with talent, the only team to give Cross a game this year was Maghery. In Tyrone, any number of clubs would give Cross a game, Errigal, Dromore, Clonoe, Carrickmore, Coalisland and even Omagh or Ardboe.

The last Armagh club outside of Cross to win an Ulster championship was Mullaghbawn in 95 and before that Clans in 74. So I wouldn't be too chirpy about trying to get bragging rights on this one!

Ogs won a few years ago

[Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.]

It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!

Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.

In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.

Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.

I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this

I wouldn't be against  it at all. If the school have the budget and are willing to give a teacher(s) points or half points for taking  extra curricular activities then fair play!  I don't know any teacher that would turn it down.

O'Neill would rather buy the kids books with the money, which is very noble

He said finals milltown.

I didn't, so he was responding to my post, so fcuk off

Cross have played 34 senior finals since 1996 (17 Armagh,10 Ulster and 7 All Ireland) they have lost only one of these, the 2009 AI final to Kilmacud Crokes.Phenomenal record.

Pearse Ogs beat them and they were beat in semi last year...

Would have had the Down final as a 50/50 game so not that big a shock, though I had fancied Burren myself, so fair play to Kilcoo.

Agree that it should be another formality for Cross but Kilcoo will probably pose a lot more problems than last time round; can't see Cross getting another 11 point lead.

As already mentioned Cross have the ability to rack up a big score in games very quickly. The key to competing with that is to limit their big scores during that dominance they always get in a game. Easier said that done, must be only a handfull of teams in Ireland that have actually beat this Cross team, who are they?

It doesn't make sense for any school to give a point just for coaching one team. The board of governors must have been snoozing when that was passed. In most schools you would only get 2pts for a HoD or HoY job, which would be a lot more hassle in comparison with taking a few training sessions!

Some schools (certainly my old school) had one teacher looking after all the hurling teams, and another teacher looking after the football teams. My school was a small secondary school so we had one team per year (maybe not, can't remember). I'd say though in the bigger schools (according to ones here) that it's not the case, and the organiser is the only one who gets a point.

In the big rugby schools and even in smaller ones they have non teaching staff paid very well to coach the rugby, and hockey teams.

Have found it strange why all the teachers who have posted on this topic be so against someone getting a few pound extra (not like kids are losing out on teaching because of it) to manage and coach teams.

I've first hand knowledge of teachers getting at least a half point for this

Crossmaglen overcame a tame enough challenge from Cullyhanna this evening.

Close enough in the early exchanges but as the game wore on so did the gap between the sides.

It's amazing how Cross can cope having many key men out. Their younger lads really stepped up to the plate, where other teams would be lost at sea losing players of the calibre of J. Clarke.

Cullyhanna have some outstanding individuals but I wouldn't even have them in the top 3 in the county so tonight was pretty much a foregone conclusion, albeit many people expected it to be much closer. The effortlessness with which Cross can open up big leads in the space of a few minutes is truly amazing. With Kilcoo squeezing past Burren in Down, there's a cracker in store in Newry in two weeks time!

Like a home fixture for Cross

There was only one shock and that was Burren getting beat by Kilcoo. Fair play to them and they will have learnt form last year, but Cross again should have too much for them again

SIE how was the early game yesterday, jonnies drew with you? Didn't know it was on, any report?

I'm not a reporter. 

Only sing when you're winning only sing when you're winning!!

Just stay away from Rigondeaux !  The Belfast Jackal is not ready to face the Cuban "El Chacal" (Jackal),  not yet ...

I like Frampton and he seems to be improving all the time but he's nowhere close to Rigo's level and I'm not sure he ever will be. If he does win a world title, I don't know if McGuigan is the manager and promoter to turn him into a global attraction for the likes of Rigo or Donaire.

Maybe not but if he wins the other titles it could lead to that, as Atticus_Finch said win the other ones and have a go at the states, It killed Barry but having been there before he could be better prepared. Carl's very composed in his fights, when he fought Kiko it was the the only time I saw him flustered but he managed to win that fight

Hmm, "cracking fight" may be a bit subjective then.

Why? the French lad was boxing well, was very tough and took some decent punches and had a great counter jab, Carl fought a cracking fight and the body punch that put the French fighter down was a smashing punch. Did you watch it?  Be difficult for you to judge my post on it I'd say.

That's like saying Mayo v Donegal was a cracking game of football. Frampton gave him a hiding.

Yes he did, and it was a cracking fight for Carl, the french fighter fought well considering the barrage of punches coming in, but sure it's all about opinions. Been plenty of fights were one fighter will dominate and its still called a cracking fight or great fight. 

This hopefully will lead on to another fight with Kiko or even a fight with Quigg. The other champions are a step too far for Frampton, so it's a wait and see situation.

When I used to do accums like the one above, I noticed that the team getting points on the handicap came in more than those giving them away yet it's remarkable the amount of people who go for the "minus" team.

The weather has a big part to play in keeping the scores low. I took the lowest handicap they were offering in fairness. Its for a bitta craic I'll not miss a couple of quid on this accumulator. But if it comes up!!

MR2 - your bet looks good. However a good idea would be if someone kept a record of the handicaps maybe in next year's League and see what kind of trends develop. I would say certain teams might offer more value on the handicap than others as well as the "+" team doing better than the "-" team.

Going by trends in betting for the Cross game it looks like most people are going for the + team there, Cullyhana were +7 now down to +6.

Ideally the best bets to make money on are the ones you have the most knowledge on i.e, your local Championship, or a championship that you are very familiar with, BC1 and another poster give heads up on Scotstown and the winners of of the Tipp hurling Championship long before the finals, one team was sitting at 5/2 the other was 3/1 ffs!! If you had big money waiting on a bet like that to come up then it's worth a punt.

When I used to do accums like the one above, I noticed that the team getting points on the handicap came in more than those giving them away yet it's remarkable the amount of people who go for the "minus" team.

The weather has a big part to play in keeping the scores low. I took the lowest handicap they were offering in fairness. Its for a bitta craic I'll not miss a couple of quid on this accumulator. But if it comes up!!

I was in Thomond park so I didn't see this, but I heard the last 10 minutes on the radio. I heard Peter canavan mentio our lads 'soccer styling' several times. Was there a lot of that again?

Sean Cavanagh was the biggest culprit. When he played Gaelic Football, he wanted to tackle people Aussie Rules style. When he plays Aussie Rules, he wants to play soccer!! In fairness to Cavanagh he stood out as one of Ireland's better performers. Paul Flynn, Aidan Walsh, Jack McCaffrey and Ross Munnelly also played well.

Sean Cavanagh seems to be an easy target and a hate figure for most people on this board (outside of Tyrone). Any time I see him play he's been great to watch and in interviews comes across as a nice fella. Go out to your county finals today and you'll see plenty of those tackles and dives. There won't be character assassinations afterwards in the press/media either.

The amount of 'honest' players on this board would sicken your hole

I would be a big Sean Cavanagh fan so relax. There's no hate in my post and I'm certainly not trying to make him a "hate" figure. He's a brilliant footballer and a great example to to every other Gaelic Footballer.

But there is a trend don't you think? I'd love to have a player like that playing for Antrim (as would most counties), Christ I've watched him destroy us a few times over the years! It's the posters who run him down that I have a point with, if put in the same position themselves in a match would probably do same thing