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Under the Bar as OCD. See worse at a Tyrone club match.

What do you call normal?
We'll have a biteen of local excitement in Connacht and th'Ulsters will have their annual love in. Only 3 teams won Ulster in this decade?
Munster will see if Kerry reach 100 before Cork reach 50.
Leinster will be about who gets to lose to Dublin in the Final .
The AI (tier 1 if it hapoens) will be about who Dublin with its huge numbers, resources, finances, home venue etc. beat in the Final.
If Tier 2 happens might generate a bit of excitement for the bottom 16 and the Leagues will at least give every County a chance of a more season Cupeen.

Normal would be :
- the Dubs losing a Leinster final
- Someone else winning the all Ireland or maybe 2 different teams winning the next 3 Sams
- Dubs getting no All Stars

as opposed to the current Dub Japanese knotweed model

Your problem is Dublin winning anything it seems or having a dominent period .

Dublin being hated and people wanting them to lose is nothing new to this decade. Its always been the case. I enjoy it and makes victory so much sweater.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156979601159608&id=522964607&sfnsn=mo

Sure thats a common occurance in there. Not just on Dublin match days and it was people that wernt at the match.

And also, that video is tame compared to the other one doing the rounds.

What a facility, Dublin can only dream of. A far cry from Innisfails in Kinsealy where even the pitch is slanted.

https://www.the42.ie/tyrone-garvaghey-project-1124677-Oct2013/

Did anyone ask Peter where the €120m from the British Govt to the Ulster council is gone? has this been distributed equally among all 32 counties?

Most immature post of the year.

How so? This funding coincided with the AI wins of Armagh & Tyrone did it not?

It did. People have short memories, however i would never say the great Tyrone team of the noughties was financially doped. Or were they?

From 2009 share Curren interview:

Former Roscommon goalkeeper Shane Curran has made the extraordinary claim that Tyrone and Armagh's recent All-Ireland successes were down to generous funding from the British Government. His controversial comments in this week's Roscommon Champion newspaper are sure to raise the ire of GAA players, officials and supporters in the North. Curran insists that the extra funding has given northern counties a distinct advantage over their southern counterparts in terms of preparation, and that their success has little to do with ability. "Since the inception of the backdoor, demographics along with financial clout, have dictated who does and does not compete for All-Ireland honours," the St. Brigid's clubman said. "The emergence of the northern counties owes as much to the peace process and financial assistance afforded to them by Her Majesty than any real innovation. "Money has played a significant part in the development to which Tyrone and to a lesser extent Armagh have made to the modern game." Curran will be on the sideline in Mullingar tomorrow when his Caulry charges face St. Paul's This makes alot of sense getting funding off 2 countrys.

Did Kevin explain why Kerry didn't score a lot in the opening minutes of the game?

I wondered that myself. Dublin obviously were up for it more at the start of the replay due to the scare in the first match. The point after 17 seconds was a great boost and got the home fans up and running also which obviously fed into the Dublin momentum and quelled any of Kerry's.

With a 6 O'Clock throw in did Kerry travel up on the day or the night beforehand? If it was the night before it must have been painful hanging around all day for the match to start?

Kerry didnt score at the beginning of the game because they played high balls into the scoring zone hoping to get a break for a goal.

Great if it comes off but looks piss poor if you return nothing in those 3 or 4 attacks.

Myth exposed that Dublin fullback line was weak under the high ball.

I'm sure said accounts would show them paying out claimed expenses only.

Im sure too, its hard one to prove alright with cash and private payments.

Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.

Look back on the thread, i have done, in particulary at club level in Dublin.

I am just pointing it out. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there.

Obviously 

Exactley.

Iv stated it before, all payments and expenses to managment teams should be published, at club and IC level.

Cork Ladies football.

Since 2005 -
-11 All ireland final appearances.
Achieving a 5 in a row and then a 6 in row.

Now thats an achievement.

Well done Dublin. 5 in a row. Best volunteers in the history of the GAA.

Thanks , i feel i have contributed to the success.

Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

I am sure he's getting reimbursed for expenses but amazes how Dublin fans, not all, seem obsessed with managers getting paid but never pass comment on Mattie Kenny, Anthony Daly etc. And then you look at the Dublin Football team's backroom. Amazing how they get professionals in their sphere to volunteer like that.

Anyway - decent appointment for Cork, Cian will bring a lot expertise & experience to Cork, had a good three years (2 promotions & Super8) before a year too far. Hope it goes well for him.

Look back on the thread, i have done, in particulary at club level in Dublin.

I am just pointing it out. There is a lot of hypocrisy out there.

Cian O'Neill going to Cork as a coach, decent appointment I'd say

He is doing it for the love of the game......

This is my favorite thread of them all. Such enjoyment.

[faWhatever about the pub scene in Dublin post match, I've been at a good few All Ireland finals in both codes as neutral and as partisan supporter, there was no real sense of the enormity of what this Dublin team has achieved at the end of the match in terms of an emotional outpouring from their ns. Was a far better atmosphere in the ground during the drawn match when there was a real sense of jeopardy, once O'Brien made a hames of the Kerry goal chance there was no real sign of Kerry actually winning the match at all, I thought Dublin were very comfortable 2nd half. Some Dubs fans were streaming out of the ground as soon as the match finished, it's absolutely become routine to win Sam for them and whether this was the 5 in a row or not wasn't impacting on the overall atmosphere and excitement in my opinion.]

faWhatever about the pub scene in Dublin post match, I've been at a good few All Ireland finals in both codes as neutral and as partisan supporter, there was no real sense of the enormity of what this Dublin team has achieved at the end of the match in terms of an emotional outpouring from their ns. Was a far better atmosphere in the ground during the drawn match when there was a real sense of jeopardy, once O'Brien made a hames of the Kerry goal chance there was no real sign of Kerry actually winning the match at all, I thought Dublin were very comfortable 2nd half. Some Dubs fans were streaming out of the ground as soon as the match finished, it's absolutely become routine to win Sam for them and whether this was the 5 in a row or not wasn't impacting on the overall atmosphere and excitement in my opinion.

There is a lot of talk about a golden Dublin generation but at the end of the day some of the absolute stalwarts from the start of this run have been phased out and the average starting age is coming down not going up. What other county could so easily cope with the loss of the prototypical modern footballer in Paul Flynn, an absolute Rolls Royce of a player. Likewise with Connolly, the Brogans, O'Sullivan, McMahon, etc. - we were told this was just a once off batch of talent, all have been or are in the process of being phased out without any impact on the team. O'Callaghan, Mannion, Howard, Scully, Murchan have slotted in and the likes of Archer are coming down the tracks as well. Cluxton remains imperious even at 37 and will be the most difficult to replace if he goes, the ongoing disgrace that is his lack of an All Star since 2013 - with all due respect to Beggan and Clarke, it is a bizarre situation - will surely be rectified this year. Even without Cluxton there, it will merely mean that Dublin probably just have an adequate to good keeper between the sticks - much like every other county.

Expecting Dublin to come back to the pack is a pipe dream, while I cannot imagine that they will win every single year, they will remain the major player in the sport for the foreseeable. It is interesting to hear Eamonn FitzMaurice say that for this Kerry team having not prevented the five in a row that:

"the roll of honour is a more important thing to protect and that becomes a challenge for the next decade".

It would have been unthinkable at the turn of this decade to envision Kerry's status at the top being challenged, I would venture that it is now inevitable that Dublin will overtake them at some point in the next (at the very latest) 25 years.

Even if Kerry win the next one or a few in the next 10 years, the range of winners and different final matchups that we saw in the 90's and 2000's seem like a very distant and almost quaint memory at this remove. What good is it to see the Dublin and Kerry duopoly continue to an even greater extent than it has already over the course of the last 130 odd years?
The lack of professionalism and rank bad planning in other counties is certainly something that not Dublin's fault, clearly not all counties are operating to the optimum level, some of the county boards are not fit for purpose, but even those organised well are battling with constraints and issues that will never impact Dublin, they will never be in a position to exploit the same advantages that Dublin have no matter what is done.
No one from Dublin is going to acknowledge that there is any problem with the current situation, that is just natural human bias, I'm 100% certain that if my own county were in Dublin's shoes at the moment I wouldn't give a toss what anyone outside of the county thought either.
Dublin have organised themselves to the best of their ability but the GAA must know that it is an unsustainable situation if the current pattern continues, what will they do if the All Ireland series starts to resemble the Leinster football championship? I truly hope that a more balanced championship will return and that we will see other counties getting to and winning All Ireland's but it is only a hope, if the GAA are reliant on the same thing, good luck to them.

While i respect your opinion and your enititled to it, its wrong. As stated above, the sense of enormity was there and there was outpouring of it afterwards.

While i understand your not a Dub true diehard like myself, pershaps its difficult to understand it.

Sure even Jim Gavin did a lap of Croke Park for the first time after victory 

Being a Dub or not has got nothing to do with it to be honest, it's not too difficult to assess the emotion and mood of a crowd post match, it's self evident. The outpouring was absolutely nothing compared to 2011, what Dubs were strolling out of the ground as soon as the full time whistle went that day? Or even the 2016 replay which certainly had a far better post match atmosphere than last Saturday evening. Maybe that wasn't your personal experience but it was plain to be seen on the day.

Nothing will ever beat 2011, Over the last few weeks and over the weekend the only All Ireland since then that has come close is this one. Agree to disagree.

Good piece by McStay. Himself and Canavan are the only ex players so far (that I've heard) to sort of tell it as it is.

He says in his piece that it's no coincidence that Kerry didn't score in the last 15 minutes, any other opposition team rarely scores against them in the last 15 in the championship.

Wrong, Canavan said teams must match Dublin off the field, the template for what they do off the field must be followed and then discussed Culllen coming from Leinster Rugby to Dublin, but the opposite happened in Tyrone, he is calling from more of a professional approach at board level, and from what i seen a lot of people agree with him.

How can they match the Dubs off the field ?
It's not a professional sport.

the Dubs

get EUR 1.2 m as a disadvantaged area under the GAA CAP scheme
Have the biggest pick
Have the largest sponsorship deal

how are Laois /Down/Ros supposed to compete with that ?

Ask Peter Canavan. I am just telling you what he said and his dissapointment loosing a good S&C like Peter Donnelly, but looks like there is someone coming the other way now so rectified.