Menu

Show posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Show posts Menu

Messages - OTF

#256
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
April 06, 2015, 08:38:50 PM
Yes thanks for the great report Giovanni.
We probably were lucky in the end they way the other games went but it's no more than these lads deserve.
After the opening 2 games I couldn't see us survive but TOF and the lads got it together and they deserve a lot of credit for doing so.
At times over the last month they did at times defend and attack very well but not all the time if they somehow can get both right together they should have a decent summer .
#257
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 31, 2015, 08:35:37 AM
Quote from: County Man on March 30, 2015, 10:31:48 PM
Still sick after the defeat on Saturday. Kildare fans do seem to have a superiority complex when it comes to playing Laois. Its always been the case for as long as I remember. Should the teams meet again on June 6th if we manage to overcome Carlow, this defeat will spur the Laois team on hugely.

Positives on the night: Mark Timmons was outstanding. If he gets injured, we're in big trouble. Tom Shiel had a great game when he came on and looks to have great potential. Donie Kingston would make any team in the country.

Donie is a huge loss for the game against Down. Hopefully we can get a result there. We deserve to stay in this division.

There isn't a lot in at the minute  if we meet it's a 50/50 game.
As regards their supporters,very like the Dubs they have little knowledge of the game this superiority is in their heads, prior to 97 we used beat them like a drum.
#258
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 30, 2015, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: Windbreaker on March 30, 2015, 01:47:45 PM
great to see  the Laois mentality about intercounty football.. wrap in cotton wool and place in an incubator.. they'll do us proud some day..
if  people are looking to get handy frees and not for the opposition to bully or intimate our players , the wait won't be long, Div 3 will be easier, and i don't think a championship mentality is going to appear before the Carlow game is upon us,
Sheean for all his limitations is committed, is perpared to win the dirty ball a place his body on the line, did Carroll's chance for the goal near the end of the second half not come from sheeans work , Kingstons red card correct , if  you run 10 M and half heartly throw both hands into a lads face and think alls well,it's time to go look at a few football games to understand the rules.. Evan was the player on the ground for this incident, commitment  V's skill who wins

Exactly I think a lot of Laois supporters have this romantic notion of the beautifull game they don't  see any need for winning dirty ball.
#259
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 30, 2015, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Giovanni on March 30, 2015, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: OTF on March 30, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: Giovanni on March 30, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
The point I'm making is that the camp will know exactly what happened and how it happened. IF it's the case that Billy Sheehan did something stupid, which led to the sending off of Donie Kingston, the management should know what to do.

As regards his commitment, I would personally rather see him use his energy to focus on what's happening on the ball, rather than constantly getting involved in verbals with opposing players off the ball. As far as I'm concerned, he adds very little - I wouldn't confuse passion with shouting into opposing players faces. The Dubs were at that a few years ago under Caffrey and it was only later when they stopped all that and focused on the things that matter that they started to win All-Irelands.

Donie Kingston gets sent off but you indicate the stupid one here is Billy Sheehan, don't understand that logic. Its clear from above you don't like him and you have your mind made up anyway.

My point was that if the stupid actions of any Laois player led to the sending off of Donie Kingston, the management should know what to do with that player. It is quite conceivable that the stupid actions of one Laois player could lead to the sending off of another. If Donie Kingston was dragged into a conflict with opposing players because one of his teammates was winding those opposing players up, it's not Donie Kingstons fault - he can hardly be expected to stand by while one of his teammates is being assaulted on the ground. This would be my view whether the culprit is Billy Sheehan or anyone else.

Aside from that incident, yes I admit that I have made up my mind about Billy Sheehan having watched him for the last 8 or 10 years. I don't see what he brings to the team and I don't think it's a coincidence that our performance levels generally increased when he was on the bench.

You'r honest enough to admit it fair enough.
It's ten years pretty much automatic on every team under 5 different managers,  have they all being wrong.
#260
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 30, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: Giovanni on March 30, 2015, 09:51:08 AM
The point I'm making is that the camp will know exactly what happened and how it happened. IF it's the case that Billy Sheehan did something stupid, which led to the sending off of Donie Kingston, the management should know what to do.

As regards his commitment, I would personally rather see him use his energy to focus on what's happening on the ball, rather than constantly getting involved in verbals with opposing players off the ball. As far as I'm concerned, he adds very little - I wouldn't confuse passion with shouting into opposing players faces. The Dubs were at that a few years ago under Caffrey and it was only later when they stopped all that and focused on the things that matter that they started to win All-Irelands.

Donie Kingston gets sent off but you indicate the stupid one here is Billy Sheehan, don't understand that logic. Its clear from above you don't like him and you have your mind made up anyway.
#261
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 30, 2015, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on March 30, 2015, 12:05:33 PM
I saw the Donnie Kingston incident and it probably deserved a yellow if anything. One of our lads was injured on the ground after a bad tackle by two Kildare players, not a dirty tackle but a very hard one. They were standing over him and shouting at him to get up or something and Donnie ran over and with his two hands pushed the Kildare lad away. If he had pushed him in the chest there would have been nothing about it but his hands were shoulder high and might have looked like a punch which it most certainly was not.

It was something that happens in ever game and there's never a thing about it. That ref was very poor all through and I think we only got three frees in scoreable positions in the whole game which says a lot considering the fouls that were committed on our lads going through.

In fairness there was no reaction from the Kildare player to his credit but the Kildare keeper seemed to be egging on the umpire to report it, which he eventually did after a few minutes. A red card was very harsh and there really was no need for it after a hard and fairly fought game by both sides.
All credit to Kildare for the way they fought back after the way their last few games went and I think they will beat Galway next week as they are too good to be playing Div3 football. That would put us into one hell of a battle to stay up.

We have a huge game next week and we have to do what Kildare did and play like our lives depended on it. Meath beat them last Sunday and theres no reason we cant do the same. We have the players to do it but Down will also need a win to insure them of a place in Div.1 next year.

Tom Shiels I believe was the player the player on the ground, would that be correct Junior ?
#262
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 30, 2015, 09:29:57 AM
Look no one so far has seen the Kingston red card incident, yet posters are quick to connect Billy to this even though they haven't seen anything. A lot of people don't like Billy and his antics, but I would suggest you'd get it hard to find a more passionate or committed wearer of the Laois jersey over the last 10 years than Billy despite where he comes from.
Native born Laois players take note.
When Billy arrived on the field on Saturday night he was immediately harassed by a Kildare  defender and a little later by 2, it was at this point Donie intervened, this definitely wasn't the red card incident. Lets not make assumptions here. 
On another note, I thought there was a Laois player (I'm not going to name him for ) didn't exactly commit to at least two  50/50 balls, did anyone else notice this ?
#263
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 29, 2015, 04:43:28 PM
There was Laois player on the ground (Donie ?) just after the Kildare goal I didn't see it but assumed this was the incident, he did look surprised but the umpires called it.
The ref was poor Conway seemed to over carry in the lead up to their goal.

Galway wining today is a bad result for us I'd fancy Kildare to beat them next Sunday.
Was Paul Begley injured I felt we could have done with the extra bit of power last night
#264
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 28, 2015, 10:47:45 PM
Into the last minute and a point up I thought the worst can happen now is a draw .......Jazus and red for Donie. One disastrous minute but we should have being 3 or 4 up at that point only for terrible decisions near goal.

We'll now we have to get something in Newry next week or correct me if I'm wrong
We need Roscommon to beat Galway and Westmeath.
#265
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 24, 2015, 08:55:35 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 24, 2015, 10:23:38 AM
After the first couple of rounds i wouldn't have given the game a 50/50 status but things have changed since then. In saying that Kildare have been very unlucky in a couple of their games and must be wondering how they only have 2 points. We have been playing second fiddle to them the past few years and they will be looking forward to the clash.
They have some excellent footballers and should bring a big crowd to O'Moore Park.
Doubt there'll be 30 on the pitch at the end of the game.
Agree with above, we did beat them in a crucial game ( for us ) in the league a few years back I cant remember the year. If we could get a win Saturday I'd promise God I'd be good and wouldn't take any pleasure from it. :)
#266
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 19, 2015, 07:09:45 PM


I also think that Conor Boyle's switch to Centre forward has been a master stroke he might not have great pace but he is a great ball player that can kick a point and never gives the ball away.
[/quote]

I'd have to disagree there,I thing it was Donie's arrival  here played a big part last week.
This is his best  position he can comfortable score from 40 yards.
Ross need to play close to goal if not in front,he can't do any damage out at the corner flag and Donie is the man to give him the right ball.
The six backs must hold their positioned with a bit of help from wing forwards and Quigley maybe, at this stage we know what will happen if the get turned over up the field.
There won't be much in this game and hopefully we can come out on top.
#267
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 18, 2015, 03:11:55 PM
Quote from: Giovanni on March 18, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
I assume the Corofin boys will be still drunk by next Sunday?  :P

As any self respecting clubman would be.

Great effort on Saturday night ,the first half was more of the same rubbish we played all last summer the second half was very good and is how we should play.
The backs more or less keeping their positions and not getting caught out up field.
Donnie coming to the forty and Ross playing in front of goal made a huge difference but the whole team had a better shape. Colm Begley comes in for a lot of stick from time to time but for me he was excellent in both half's on Saturday .
We have momentum now and will give Galway plenty of it if we produce the second half performance and shape.
#268
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 08, 2015, 07:49:40 PM
Delighted to have got this wrong, terrific performance well done.
#269
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 06, 2015, 03:21:39 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 06, 2015, 09:39:42 AM
In fairness we have a strong inside line and if they get sufficient supply of ball they could do damage. Need to be on top of their game.

Teams like Fermanagh, Wexford and Tipp ( no disrespect intended ) ran through us at will last summer, Roscommon are better than any of those teams IMO.
If TOF doesn't do something dramatic defensive wise and I haven't seen anything so far to indicate he will. Sadly I cant see anything other than  a Roscommon  win on Sunday.
#270
Laois / Re: 2015 Laois Senior Football
March 04, 2015, 12:12:20 PM
Quote from: The Boy Wonder on March 03, 2015, 11:33:36 PM
Quote from: redsetanta on March 03, 2015, 06:12:55 PM
I think we are going t obe relegated anyhow so don't see how the postponement will help at all. We are not going to beat Roscommon next weekend, Kildare are a stronger team than us despite their poor form and both Meath and Galway will more than fancy their chances against us. Fair enough the Dwon game could go either way but I can't see us getting anymore that 2/3 points which won't be enough to stay up. I haven't checked but I would say we are hot favs to make the drop.

Ok - Roscommon are on an upward curve, have had good underage teams and a good manager in John Evans. On the other hand Laois have a core of experienced players who have been operating at a higher level than Roscommon for the past number of years. If Laois have anything about them (and I believe they have) they will stop the rot next Sunday.

Agree With most of above TBW but the problem is we don't have any defensive structure whatsoever .
Every player seems to have free licence to get forward whenever he likes and as we well know most of them have little if no interest in their defensive duty's
In recent years  this  would have being possible but under the present management don't think so,we live in hope.